华为麒麟9000S与苹果A17芯片，谁更胜一筹？华为是否突破芯片壁垒？
Huawei Kirin 9000S VS Apple''s A17 Chip, Who Prevails? Has Huawei Broken Through Chip Barriers?
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华为麒麟9000S与苹果A17芯片，谁更胜一筹？华为是否突破芯片壁垒？
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In the tech industry, the launch of a new product always feels like playing a new symphony for the market. This time, the yet-to-be-officially-unveiled Huawei Mate60 Pro has created a sensation in the industry, akin to the climax of a musical composition, becoming the center of attention for many tech enthusiasts and industry professionals.
Such a marketing strategy undeniably leaves people with a lot of room for speculation, and many have their own theories. At this moment, Huawei seems to have placed itself back in the spotlight, becoming the core of attention on social media, various forums, and even traditional media outlets. Everything about the Huawei Mate60 Pro has become a hot topic in online discussions and social circles.
In just a few days, iPhone15 is set to be released, while the Huawei Mate60 Pro is already available through all channels. Today marks Huawei's strong comeback, after a three-year hiatus, directly challenging Apple once again. Before the iPhone15 series has even been released, Huawei has already made its move, causing a major stir in the smartphone industry. However, everyone knows that the return of the Kirin 9000S chip, confirmed by numerous bloggers and reviewers, is the most critical aspect of this competition.
在科技行业，新产品的发布总让人感觉像是为市场奏响一曲新的交响乐。这一次，尚未正式亮相的华为Mate60 Pro在业界引起了轰动，就像是一首乐曲的高潮，成为许多科技爱好者和行业专业人士关注的焦点。
这样的营销策略无疑给人们留下了很多揣测的空间，很多人都有自己的理论。此时，华为似乎又把自己置于了聚光灯下，成为社交媒体、各种论坛甚至传统媒体关注的核心。华为Mate60 Pro的一切都成为在线讨论和社交圈子的热门话题。
就在几天后，iPhone15即将发布，而华为Mate60 Pro已经通过各个渠道开始销售。今天标志着华为的强势回归，经过三年的休整，再次直接挑战苹果。在iPhone15系列还未发布之前，华为已经迈出了自己的步伐，在智能手机行业引起了轩然大波。然而，众多博主和评论家证实的麒麟9000S芯片的回归，被认为是这场竞争最关键的方面。
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Usually when Apple introduces a feature, it has to be matured enough and they can present it in a way that it is very intuitive. But that sms and gps locating via satellite feature on iphone seems to be too early. Huawei fix the problem with that feature by making mate 60 pro able to make calls via satellite. Huawei has just become Apple back in Steve Jobs days
通常情况下，当苹果推出一个功能时，它必须足够成熟，并以一种非常直观的方式呈现出来。但是iPhone上的通过卫星进行短信和GPS定位的功能似乎还为时过早。华为通过让Mate60 Pro能够通过卫星打电话来解决了这个问题。华为刚刚成为史蒂夫·乔布斯时代的苹果。
Huawei now has satellite features. This is the major breakthrough that cannot be achieved by Apple.
对于手机来说，性能已经不再是一个问题，关键是功能。华为现在具备了卫星功能。这是一个无法被苹果实现的重大突破。
Furthermore, Geely has started to launch satellites for its own GPS System.
Combined with Huawei expertise, driverless car may become a reality soon.
此外，吉利已开始发射卫星，用于自己的GPS系统。结合华为的专业知识，无人驾驶汽车可能很快就成为现实。
@stevenliew2507 Elon realized that Satellite was the way to go but found out too late, China had already started playing ping pong with satellites before we knew it. Tim Cook only started to look at Apple cars. The US are really behind and we are talking about light years...
@stevenliew2507 马斯克意识到卫星是未来的方向，但发现得太晚了，中国早就开始玩卫星了。蒂姆·库克才刚开始考虑苹果汽车。美国真的落后了，我们正在谈论光年的差距...
@stevenliew2507 Driverless cars is already a reality in China. They have piloted it already in a number of provinces;) kaka
@stevenliew2507 无人驾驶汽车在中国已经成为现实。他们在许多省份已经进行了试点
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turns out, people don't buy smartphones to use them as supercomputers, they buy smartphones to take photos, make phone calls and browse. Somewhere along the line Apple lost sight of that and it tunnelvisioned on CPU performance.
事实证明，人们购买智能手机并不是用它们作为超级计算机使用，而是用于拍照、打电话和浏览网页等功能。苹果在某个时候失去了这一点，把注意力完全集中在CPU性能上。
Technology is about to giving services to humanity; it must effective and most importanly:cheap. Probably, the A17 bionic apple-tsmc is the most fastest mobile-chip today with 1500.000 point of Antutu, but, yes, to be honest: this is the number 1 the most expensive thing to buy. By practice; Harmony OS-kirin 9000s-SMIC chips (with Antutu about 600.000) is capable to supply chips with more availability, more cheap,& more customabel (like linux technology) ,than any Apple technology can do
技术的本质在于为人类提供服务；它必须有效，并且最重要的是：便宜。可能，A17芯片目前是速度最快的移动芯片，Antutu得分达到150万分，但是说实话：购买它是最昂贵的事情之一。实际上，鸿蒙OS-麒麟 9000s-SMIC芯片（Antutu约为60万分）能够以更多的可用性、更便宜的价格和更可定制的方式（类似于Linux技术），比任何苹果技术都更好地提供芯片。
The development costs are very high compared to other competitors.
与其他竞争对手相比，开发成本非常高。
The GPU is self-developed by Huawei, and Antutu is not recognized.
华为的GPU是自己开发的，而Antutu不予承认。
AnTuTu GPU is 0, should score 800.000 if we assume the GPU similar to 888
AnTuTu GPU得分为0，如果我们假设GPU类似于888，则应该得到80万分。
I chose HUAWEI, I have 3 computers, handhone, Smartwatch, freebuds and tabs all made by Huawei. My contribution is small to support Huawei, but I am proud that HUAWEI can make the Mate 60pro 5G. I will support unlimitedly on huawei by purchasing huawei brand
我选择华为，我有3台电脑、手提电话、智能手表、Freebuds和平板电视都是由华为制造的。我的贡献虽然微小，但我为华为能够制造出Mate 60pro 5G感到自豪。我将通过购买华为品牌来无限支持华为。
HUAWEI 's SATELLITE feature is a key for marine and outdoor applications across remote areas. I NEED one.
华为的卫星功能对于遥远地区的海洋和户外应用非常关键。我需要一台。
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Huawei is Talk of the World now .
华为现在成为世界的焦点。
to be honest google tensor arent as fast as 8gen2 and a16 too, and most pixel users ok with that
说实话，谷歌的Tensor芯片并不如第8代2和A16芯片快，而且大多数像素用户都可以接受这一点。
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Faster chip doesn't mean is better performance. Just compare Intel i7 and Celeron. It depends on how they design and what features inside the chip. Also, I actually like heavier phone because it feels solid and expensive. If is too light, it feels like cheap.
更快的芯片并不意味着性能更好。只需比较英特尔i7和赛扬芯片就知道了。它取决于他们如何设计以及芯片内部有哪些功能。此外，我实际上喜欢更重的手机，因为它感觉坚固而昂贵。如果太轻，会给人一种廉价感。
Apple need a good competitor to design and provide the good enough product with right price, not just provide a better UI with limited new feature, but push the price higher and higher. Apple forget the real innovation for a long while after Steve Jobs. Finally, huawei is back and hope Huawei will push Apple to start the real innovation again. Think different, Huawei make it with inhouse OS, inhouse designed chips.
苹果需要一个强有力的竞争对手，设计出符合价格的足够好的产品，而不仅仅是提供一个带有有限新功能的更好的用户界面，然后不断抬高价格。在史蒂夫·乔布斯之后，苹果已经很久没有真正的创新了。最后，华为回来了，希望华为能够推动苹果重新开始真正的创新。与众不同，华为通过自家操作系统和自家设计的芯片实现了这一点。
Always keep your enemies guessing never let them know anything ...
永远让你的敌人猜测，不要让他们了解任何事情...
Huawei is a reputable global telco company. It will continue to progress innovate be self reliance self sufficient and be free from colonial imperial bondage. Total support for Huawei ❤️
华为是一家声誉良好的全球电信公司。它将继续取得进步，创新，自给自足，摆脱殖民和帝国束缚。全力支持华为❤️
Huawei is the Pride of Asia ❤ Glory of Asia ❤❤️
华为是亚洲之光❤ 亚洲之骄傲❤❤️
Apple contributes money to USA, that USA use to meddle in almost all countries in the world, including China.
Boycott all USA products to stop USA hegemony.
苹果出钱给美国，美国用来干涉世界各国，包括中国。抵制所有美国产品，以阻止美国霸权主义。
Forget about iPhone 15, nothing but marketing hupe.
别指望 iPhone 15，只是营销炒作而已。
I don't care whether the cat is black or white as long as it catches mice. HiSilicon, SMIC, TSMC, Yangtse Memory? No matter. The point is Kirin 9000S materialised with 5Chicken! Also Satellite calling and Harmony OS 4. We are all happy a new Star is born. I will be saving enough money to buy myself the Huawei Mate 60 pro plus.
Currently the most exciting and although not the fastest or best camera shots, but easily the most advanced phone in the world.
我不在乎猫的颜色是黑色还是白色，只要它能抓到老鼠。海思、中芯国际、台积电、长江存储？没关系。关键是麒麟9000S搭载了5nm工艺！另外还有卫星通话和鸿蒙OS 4。我们都很高兴看到诞生了一颗新星。我会存够钱买自己的华为Mate 60 Pro Plus。目前它是世界上最令人兴奋的手机，虽然不是运行速度最快或者拍照最好的，但是绝对是最先进的。
Very soon, the next Huawei Phone Model - Mate 70 will definitely overtake Iphone.
Huawei has time and will definitely be ahead of Iphone soon.
很快，下一款华为手机——Mate 70肯定会超越iPhone。 华为有时间，肯定会很快超过iPhone。
Shift from iphone to huwai
从iPhone换到华为
You are just going on a wild speculation spree. Nothing substantive coming out of your mouth. Wasted my time. Duh !!!
你只是在胡言乱语，没有任何实质性的内容。浪费了我的时间!!!
What a reprehensible display of dishonesty by U.S. politicians who, rather than feeling regret, openly pushed for tougher sanctions in reaction to Huawei's technological success. U.S. restrictions on technology have spurred China's desire to become technologically independent in the field of microchips. The ground-breaking Huawei Mate60 Pro is indicative of Huawei's amazing scientific advancement in the face of tightening sanctions. The U.S. politicians should be ashamed of themselves.
美国政客们表现出了令人不齿的不诚实，他们对华为取得的技术成功没有丝毫懊悔之情，反而公开推动加强制裁。美国对技术的限制激起了中国在微芯片领域追求技术自主的愿望。划时代的华为Mate60 Pro显示了华为在面对日益严厉的制裁时取得的惊人科技进步。这些美国政客应该为自己感到羞耻。
Baw.. Haw... Haw... This video is full of slander and sweet sour grape. Huawei performance is much better than the Iphone... Sorry but I hold my own new Huawei 60 and it's extremely good. Compare Iphone camera and Huawei 60!, and Iphone left to the dust.
呵呵... 这个视频充满了诽谤和失败者的酸葡萄心态。华为的性能比iPhone好得多...抱歉，但是我坚持使用我自己的新华为60，它非常好。比较一下iPhone的相机和华为60！iPhone被甩在了身后。
Huawei Kirin 9000S is at least a few generations behind Apple A17. This is a fact no one can dispute.
What makes Kirin 9000S wins over Apple A17 by at least a trillion miles, is the 1.4 plus billion Chinese people's hearts, their sense of nationalism, and their love for China. The more the Un-United States of America sanctions China, the stronger China, and more unite the Chinese people, domestic and abroad, become.
Thank you, President Biden, for making China stronger and the Chinese people more unite.
华为麒麟9000S至少比苹果A17落后几代。这是无人可以否认的事实。
让麒麟9000S赢过苹果A17至少数十亿里的是14亿多中国人民的心、他们的民族主义感和对中国的热爱。美国的制裁越多，中国就变得越强大，中国人民在国内外变得更加团结。
感谢拜登总统，使中国更强大，中国人民更加团结。
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America is a laughing stock, gone are the bullying days and is now China is taking leadership in all
美国成了一个笑柄，霸凌的日子一去不复返，现在中国正在各个领域发挥领导作用。
The west don't understand the Chinese strategy. They are fast asleep, China is now leading in all spheres and the leader of the future.
西方不了解中国的战略。他们熟睡，而中国现在在各个领域都处于领先地位，是未来的领导者。
Hope all phone from China use Harmony OS
希望中国的所有手机都使用鸿蒙操作系统。
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Huawei did it with LOVE for the community of MAN . Corporate greed is last on Huawei aim Hallelujah ! Not a joke !!!
华为以对人类社区的热爱做到了这一点。企业的贪婪是华为目标的最后一项，哈利路亚！这不是玩笑！！！
Can apple make A15 all in USA? The winner is clear
苹果能不能在美国生产A15芯片？胜者已经显然了。
Mate60 on satellites?
Mate60可以上卫星吗？
Main question, is it made from EUV or DUV, this is the most important question.
I have also notice westerners hope it is 7 n m in stead of 5 n m. They hope we have not achieved 5 n m yet.
主要的问题是，它是使用EUV还是DUV，这是最重要的问题。我也注意到西方人希望它是7纳米而不是5纳米。他们希望我们还没有达到5纳米。
I am ready to buy Mate X5! Without the sweats of Chinese workers, what's iphone?
我准备买Mate X5！没有中国工人的汗水，哪来的iPhone？
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The processing power of nowaday core chips on a phone is already more than enough to play even the worst coded games...
The advantage of Huawei's new phones:
1. low cost satellite communication which can save your ass under harsh circumstances
2. can not be tracked by CIA or FBI, which could be crucial for important corporate manages, politicians, opinion leaders etc
3. will be at least 20% cheaper than apple's flagship iphone.
4. The battery life is already much better than an iphone that could hardly last one full day.
No wonder Apple's share price fell more than 10% after the news.
Yes, A17 is produced under 3nm, but who cares.
现今手机核心芯片的处理能力已经足够玩甚至是最糟糕的编码游戏了... 华为新手机的优势：
1.低成本的卫星通讯，在恶劣情况下可以拯救你
2.不能被CIA或FBI追踪，这对于重要的企业管理者、政治家、意见领袖等可能至关重要
3.将比苹果旗舰iPhone便宜至少20%。
4.电池寿命已经比iPhone好得多了，后者甚至难以维持一整天的使用时间。
难怪苹果的股价在这个消息后下跌了超过10%。
没错，A17是在3纳米下生产的，但谁会关心呢？
Chinese should choose Huawei.
中国人应该选择华为。
Any human being residing on this earth who believe in free competition should buy mate 60 pro to encourage competition and eliminate monopoly and misuse of economic power.once mate 60 pro is released locally i am buying it to check harmony os ,best of luck to huawie ,competition is healthy for world civilization.
任何居住在这个地球上相信自由竞争的人都应该购买Mate 60 Pro，以鼓励竞争，消除垄断和滥用经济力量。一旦Mate 60 Pro在本地发布，我会购买它来体验鸿蒙操作系统，祝华为好运，竞争对于世界文明来说是健康的。
iphone 15 released with no actual improvement and new features
iPhone 15发布了，没有真正的改进和新功能。
China should divest in USA treasury bills and USA $$$39 trillions deficit spending money that USA doesn't have!
中国应该减少对美国国债的投资，美国有着39万亿的赤字支出，这些钱其实并不存在！
now huawei need slow down CPU because it's overheating ehh. all companies never f.. g learn how to cool down their devices
现在华为需要降低CPU速度，因为它过热了。所有公司都从来没有真正学会如何让设备冷却下来。
8 cores? or is it 12 cores?
8核？还是12核？
8 cores built on 7nm tech
8核心采用7纳米技术制造。
8 cores, 12 threads unofficial.
Officially unknown specs, Huawei didn't tell anything about, 5G functions included.
8核心，12线程非官方说法。 官方未公布任何规格，华为没有透露任何关于Mate 60 Pro的信息，包括5G功能。
Apple is tooooooooooooo ecpensive!for me nokia dumb phone is better than apple!
苹果太贵了！对我来说，诺基亚的简单手机比苹果更好！
Some people say: The iPhone A17 processor is 3nm, which is ahead of the 7nm processor of Huawei Mate 60 Pro. I'd say this shows computing power. In today's world of abundant computing power, adding more computing power will not significantly improve most people's mobile experience. The neural processing unit (NPU) of Huawei Kirin 9000s SoC has been greatly improved. Compared with xiaoyi and Siri, Siri is like a retard! The era of artificial intelligence has arrived!
有些人说：iPhone A17处理器是3纳米，超过了华为Mate 60 Pro的7纳米处理器。我要说这表明了计算能力。在今天的计算能力丰富的世界中，增加更多的计算能力不会显著改善大多数人的移动体验。华为麒麟9000s SoC的神经处理单元（NPU）得到了极大的改进。与小艺比起来，SIRI就像个弱智！人工智能时代已经来临！
huawei first. I will never buy a iPhone
首选华为。我永远不会买iPhone。
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Huawei has made a major breakthrough way beyond the western countries expectations despite the sanctions imposed on both Russia&China a combination of this two countries can be major considering their prowess in technology that surpasses the west which they are denial to date as the(west)use their mainstream media houses to discredit competitors.
尽管俄罗斯和中国都面临制裁，但华为已经取得了重大突破，远远超出了西方国家的预期。考虑到这两个国家在技术方面的实力超过了西方（他们至今仍在否认），两者的结合可能会是一个关键因素，尤其是通过使用主流媒体的手段来诋毁竞争对手。
No Apple iPhone for me before, now and in future! They are very overpriced! Ever wondered why Apple has so much cash! You pay to be under house arrest, being forced to buy expensive proprietary Apple accessories without the freedom of much cheaper open-source products! iPhones are no better than Harmony OS or Google OS phones. Hope the Harmony OS will overtake Google OS and iOS in future!
我以前、现在和将来都不会买苹果iPhone！它们的价格太高了！你有没有想过为什么苹果有这么多现金！你要付钱被软禁在苹果的“囚室”里，只能购买昂贵的专利苹果配件，而没有选择更便宜的开源产品！iPhone并不比鸿蒙OS或谷歌OS手机更好。希望鸿蒙OS能在未来超过谷歌OS和iOS！