网友讨论：德国经济陷入困境
Germany''s Economy is Struggling. Here''s Why | Vantage with Palki Sharma
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网友：德国经济下滑并不令人感到意外，因为德国无法再像过去那样获得俄罗斯的廉价能源了。
无法获得廉价能源意味着德国产品的生产成本增加，这导致它们在市场上的竞争力下降。
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The slow down in Germany economic is not unexpected considering the fact the cheap energy supply from Russia was no longer coming as it use to be.
The implication of that is that the cost of production of goods in Germany increased which then led to less competitiveness in market.
德国经济下滑并不令人感到意外，因为德国无法再像过去那样获得俄罗斯的廉价能源了。
无法获得廉价能源意味着德国产品的生产成本增加，这导致它们在市场上的竞争力下降。
It is just temporary
这只是暂时的
@apb2081 How??
此话怎讲
@irishpradeeshraja6675 they are investing € 100 billion in renewable energy, they won't rely anymore on fossil fuel
他们在可再生能源领域投入了1000亿欧元，他们将不再依赖化石燃料。
@irishpradeeshraja6675 like do you really think oil and gaz are the only sources of energy?
你以为石油和天然气就是唯一的能源吗？
@apb2081 And the 100 Billion Euro project happens? Or it'll take 1 month? 2 months?
Until it happens, no cheap energy
1000亿欧元的这个项目完成了吗？还是说这个项目只需要一两个月？
在项目没有完成之前，德国将彻底失去廉价能源
@giacaro180 so why didn't they do it all these years?
所以为什么他们在过去这些年里不去发展可再生能源呢
@santhosh4474 because they had Russian oil for cheap ? It's literally logical now oil and gaz is no longer a good deal.
因为他们之前可以从俄罗斯那里获得廉价石油？这是合乎逻辑的，但是现在这已经不再是一个好的交易了
apb2081 : By the time Germany solves her energy problem/crisis through renewable energy, she would have fallen out of the top 10 or even top 20 economy of the world, this is the crux of the matter.
Germany will still be a rich country, don't get me wrong, but she will very most likely lose a huge market share especially considering the fact that she doesn't have the population that will boost the internal demand/consumption.
问题关键是，等到德国通过可再生能源解决了能源危机，德国可能早就已经跌出世界前十或甚至世界前20大经济体之列了。
不要误会我的意思，德国依然会是一个富裕国家，但是它很有可能会失去巨大的市场份额，尤其是考虑到德国的人口不足以促进国内的需求/消费。
irishpradeeshraja6675 Netherlands is about to open new gas fields.
荷兰即将开发新的天然气田
@apb2081 as you know, Germany produces cars. Cars have a lot of plastic parts. Plastic is made from oil and gas, etc.. So big chemical factories are closed now. Without Russian gas and oil they are not competitive anymore. This is just one example.
By the way renewable energy is also more expensive at the moment in Germany than Russian gas and oil.
Unfortunately, it is not so easy as you think.
正如你所知道的那样，德国是汽车生产大国。而汽车的制造需要涉及到很多的塑料零部件。而塑料是用石油和天然气制成的。所以现在大的化学厂都已经倒闭了。没有俄罗斯的石油和天然气，他们的产品就没有竞争力。这还只是其中一个例子。
顺便说一下，德国目前可再生能源的价格要比俄罗斯的石油天然气更加昂贵。
遗憾的是，这一切没有你想象的那样容易。
@apb2081 what is Germany biggest export? Cars,who is the highest car exporting country today? China, and industrial machine's Germany use to export, china is producing and exporting it now very cheap
德国出口最多的是什么？是汽车，而现在最大的汽车出口国是哪个国家？是中国，而且德国过去出口的那些工业机械，中国现在也在生产出口，而且价格还非常便宜。
Exactly. Germany rosed and developed after ww2 thanks to Russias cheap gas. No gas no production, or your goods cost increase by 50%-100% and ocforse people do not want buy expensive products they will go for cheaper alternatives - like chineese and Polish stuff so they will go bankrupt if the Germany not wake up and get rid of Nato and america. We in Europe need Russia cheap energy.
确实如此。德国在二战后的崛起和发展多亏了俄罗斯的廉价天然气。没有天然气，就没有工业生产，或者你的产品成本将会上升50%到100%，人们不想购买昂贵的产品，他们会去购买更加便宜的替代品，比如中国和波兰的产品，所以如果德国不醒悟，不摆脱北约和美国，那么他们就会破产。我们欧洲需要俄罗斯的廉价能源
@santap9332NO. Germany got the cheap gas only in the 90's after the collapse of USSR.
不，德国是在90年代苏联解体后才得到了廉价天然气的
Funny how the German news channel DW keeps making documentaries about poverty in India but fails to mention it's own economic struggles
有趣的是，德国新闻频道DW一直在制作有关印度贫困的纪录片，但是却从来不提自己的经济困境
Just like Palki, she only focuses on China but never mentions the problems facing her own country
你们印度的Palki不也一样吗（印度的新闻记者），她只关注中国问题，但是却从来不提本国所遇到的问题
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you are wrong ... DW mention their economic struggles .
你错了，德国之声确实报道了自己国家的经济困境
Germany's per capita - More than $50,000
India's per capita - less than $3,000
德国人均超过五万美元，印度人均不到3000美元
The number one reason is the absence of cheap gaz from Russia
最重要的原因是因为失去了俄罗斯的廉价天然气
Living in Germany for more than 13 years, it is sad to say that the crisis is true. And it's not temporary. The inflation (even though decreasing at a snail's pace)and the stagnant wages are hitting the people real hard at the moment. But they also have more bigger problems to handle and what the govt. is doing is just not enough. They will have huge working population crisis in the coming years which in turn slows down the economy not to mention the pension for the now working people in the next 20 years is a question itself.
我在德国生活超过了13 年，很遗憾的表示德国现在确实出现了危机。而且这不是暂时性的。通货膨胀和工资停滞给德国人造成了沉重的打击。但是他们还有更大的问题需要处理，而政府目前所做的还不够。未来几年，他们将面临巨大的劳动人口危机，这将反过来拖累经济的发展，更不用说的是，目前工作的人未来20年还会遇到养老金问题。
Germany shrinks beacuse it cut ties with Russia which used to provide energy
德国经济之所以萎缩是因为它切断了和俄罗斯之间的联系，而俄罗斯之前是德国的能源供应国。
Germany has know for decades their dependance on Russian gas and oil, but turned a complecent blind eye on it, and did not diversify their economy, basing everything on manufacturing and exports, neither did they invest anything in their military for decades (it is today one of the weakest of Western Europe). They also decided to shut down their nuclear power plants at the worst time, so they are paying for their past bad decisions today.
数十年来德国一直都很清楚自己对俄罗斯石油和天然气的依赖性，但是他们却一直对这个问题视而不见，并且德国没有让经济多元化，德国的所有一切都建立在制造业和出口上，而且数十年来他们在军事上没有进行任何投资，德国目前是西欧最弱的国家之一。而且他们还在最糟糕的时机点决定关闭所有的核电站，他们今天正在为过去错误的决定买单。
Germany was never called the "sick man of Europe". The phrase was coined by Charles De Gaulle in 1970 to describe the UK which, after having dued sterling in 1967 ,was still in a disastrous economic situation and begging desperately to join the EEC. I know this pretty well because I left the UK, where I was born, in 1970.
德国从来没有被人叫过欧洲病夫。这个词是1970年戴高乐发明出来用来形容英国的，因为在1967年英镑贬值后，英国的经济情况依然非常不好，为了提振经济，英国迫切要求加入欧共体。我对此知道的非常清楚，因为我就是在1970年离开了我的出生地英国。