网友讨论：为什么越南GDP那么低，那么穷，远远落后于马来西亚，泰国印尼和菲律宾？
Why is Vietnam such a poor country with a low GDP and far behind compared to Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Thailand? All four countries already have high middle income.
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网友讨论：为什么越南GDP那么低，那么穷，远远落后于马来西亚，泰国印尼和菲律宾？
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网友讨论：为什么越南GDP那么低，那么穷，远远落后于马来西亚，泰国印尼和菲律宾？
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Follow Former Civil Engineer/entrepreneurupxed 1y
I would think people with this type of question are either not well educated or still living in the bronze era. Vietnam for the last 35 years has gone from poorest to middle income with GDP is around $3500 passing Philippines. Let's look at some data to see if Vietnam falling far behind other Asean countries. BTW, with the exception of Singapore and Malaysia no other Asean countries are in high income. Middle and middle high.
Let's look at some export values in 2020 among top Asean countries.
我认为会问出这种问题的人要么就是没有受过什么教育，要么就是依然还生活在青铜时代。在过去35年的时间里，越南从世界上最穷的国家发展成为了一个中等收入国家，现在越南人均gdp为3500美元，已经超过了菲律宾。通过观察其他数据让我们来看看越南是否远远落后于东盟其他国家。顺便说一下，除了新加坡和马来西亚以外，东盟没有一个是高收入国家。其他国家都是中等收入或者中高收入国家。
让我们来看看2020年东盟各国的出口额：
Maylaysia export around $234B
Thailand export $229
Indonesia export around $163B
Singapore export $128B
Philippines is by far behind $63B
越南出口超过2640亿美元
马来西亚出口额大约为2340亿美元
泰国出口额为2290亿美元
印尼出口额大约为1630亿美元
新加坡出口额为1280亿美元
菲律宾出口额远远落后其他国家，只有630亿美元
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Indonesia - $1,158B
Thailand - $509B
Philippines - $367B
Vietnam - $340B
Malaysia - 336B in
Singapore - $330B
While GDP per capita as of 2020
Singapore - $58,484
Malaysia - $10,192
Thailand - $7295
Indonesia - $4038
Vietnam - $3498
Philippines - $3372
2020年东盟gdp最大的六个国家分别是：
印尼1.158万亿美元
泰国5090亿美元
菲律宾3670亿美元
越南3400亿美元
马来西亚3360亿美元
新加坡3300亿美元
2020年东盟人均gdp排名：
新加坡58484美元
马来西亚10192美元
泰国7295美元
印尼4038美元
越南3498美元
菲律宾3372美元
Among Asean countries, Philippines is probably the worse performer due to low export values. If Vietnam continue this trend, Vietnam will probably surpass other Asean countries very soon within few years. Remember, Vietnam starting point was at very low comparing to other Asean countries but Vietnam's growth in recent year start to close the gap with other Asean countries. So, if you think Vietnam is poorest country then you're living in a bronze era (Period)
所以从这些数字中， 你可以看出越南甚至菲律宾，而且也没有远远落后于印尼，越南是东盟国家里面出口额同比增长幅度最大的国家。
在东盟国家里面，菲律宾或许是表现最差的一个，因为菲律宾的出口额较低。如果越南可以按照这个趋势继续发展下去的话，那么越南几年内有可能会超过东盟其他国家。和其他东盟国家比，越南的起点非常的低，但是越南近年来的发展已经让自己缩小了和其他东盟国家之间的差距。所以如果你认为越南是东盟最穷的国家，那么你肯定还生活在青铜时代。
· 2y
Well answer but also keep in mind that unless Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand stop what they are doing with their country, Vietnam will surpass them in term of GDP per capita ..
I think Vietnam is at the point where Thailand was 30 years ago…lots of investment but as wages increases in Thailand, consequently manufacturing moves to lower income, lower wages like Vietnam…Giving the fact how fast Vietnam is growing and attracting investment, I believe that would be at least 15 years for Vietnam to get where Thailand is today and maybe 20 years to where Malaysia is. But for sure Vietnam isn’t poor as the question indicates…the poverty rate is about 5,8% in 2018 but the government wants to lower that number to 2,5% in 2020.
回答的很好，但需要记住的是，除非马来西亚，印尼和泰国能够取消目前的政策，否则他们的人均gdp将会被越南超过去
我认为现在的越南就好像是30年前的泰国，30年的泰国就和现在的越南一样，吸引了很多的投资，但是随着泰国工资水平的上升，制造业就转移到了收入更低的地方去，比如越南。考虑到越南的发展速度和吸引投资的能力，我认为越南至少15年后能够达到泰国目前的水平，或许20年后他们可以变得像现在的马来西亚一样。不过越南肯定没有提问者所说的那样贫穷，2018年越南的贫困率大约为5.8%，但是越南政府希望2020年将贫困率降低到2.5%
· 1y
I predict it would take Viet Nam 6 and 10 years to get where Thailand and Malaysia are today, in terms of GDP per capita ($7,500 & $10,500, respectively).
And in terms of total production of electricity, steel, coal, cement… Viet Nam has already overcome those 2 nations.
我预计6到10年后越南的人均gdp将达到目前泰国和马来西亚的水平（泰国人均7500美元，马拉西亚人均10500美元）
在发电量，钢铁，煤炭和水泥产量方面，越南已经超过了这两个国家
· 1y
6 years is a little too optimistic to believe that gdp per capita will exceed of Thailand or 10 years of Malaysian! As of this year, Vietnamese gdp per capita still not half of the Thais but surpassed Filipino!
我认为越南人均gdp要在六年内超过泰国，十年内超过马拉西亚有点太过乐观了。截至目前，越南的人均gdp依然不到泰国的一半，但是已经超过了菲律宾
· 1y
IMF was about the same optimistic. This year, the GDP/capita of Viet Nam and Thailand are $4,163 and $7,631, respectively. So the ratio is 55% now.
国际货币基金组织对越南的未来同样持乐观态度。今年越南和泰国的人均gdp分别是4163美元和7631美元， 越南人均gdp已经是泰国的55%了
· Nov 16
“I think Vietnam is at the point where Thailand was 30 years ago”
30 years？ …if you say 10–15 years I would accept your idea but 30 years sounds like you didn’t do any research.
“我认为现在的越南就相当于是30年前的泰国”
30年前的泰国？如果你说现在的越南相当于是10年或15年前的泰国，那么我还可以接受你的说法，但是你却说现在的越南只相当于是30年前的泰国，这让人听上去觉得你没有做任何的研究。
Follow Researcherupxed 3y
Phillipines is NOT better than vietnam. Phillipines is not even in the same league as malaysia and thailand. Malaysia is going to be a high income country by 2021 while phillipines is going to need another 20 years to get there.
菲律宾并没有比越南好。菲律宾和马来西亚泰国不是一个等级的国家。2021年马来西亚将会成为高收入国家，而菲律宾要过20年时间才能成为高收入国家。
Follow Lives in The Philippines3y
I am not sure where you got the information but the economy of Vietnam is continuously growing at 6.5 to 7.0% GDP. The per capita income of Vietnam is close to the Philippines and Indonesia. There are bottlenecks that the Vietnamese economy has to hurdle if it aims to grow faster than what it is now. There needs to increase in infrastructures development, training & education and development of heavy industries.
Land and buildings in Vietnam are getting expensive due to influx of foreign investments and its one of the highest in SouthEast Asia.
No Vietnam is not a poor country.
我不知道你的这些信息是从哪里来的，但是越南的经济一直在以6.5%到7%的速度在增长。越南的人均收入水平接近菲律宾和印尼。如果越南想要发展的更快的话，那么它就必须克服一些瓶颈。越南需要加大基础设施建设，加强培训和教育工作，发展重工业。
由于外国投资的涌入，越南的土地和房屋价格正在变得越来越贵，越南是东南亚国家中房地产价格最高的国家之一。
不，越南不是一个穷国。
FollowLives in Vietnam (2015–present)Mar 11
For much of the 20th century, Vietnam was embroiled in conflict, including the Indochina War, the Vietnam War, and the Cambodian-Vietnamese War, which caused significant loss of life, destruction of infrastructure, and displacement of people. These wars had a profound impact on the country's economy, hindering its ability to develop and modernize.
Following the end of the wars, Vietnam began to transition from a centrally planned economy to a market-oriented economy in the late 1980s and early 1990s. While this policy shift has led to significant economic growth, Vietnam started from a very low base and still faces many challenges, including a weak private sector, underdeveloped infrastructure, and corruption.
在20世纪大部分时间里，越南都深陷冲突的泥潭之中，这些冲突包括印度支那战争，越南战争，柬越战争，这些战争造成了巨大的生命损失，越南的基础设施遭到了严重破坏，人民流离失所。这些战争对越南的经济造成了重大的影响，阻碍了越南发展和实现现代化的能力。
随着战争的结束，越南在上世纪80年代初和90年代末开始从中央计划经济向市场经济过渡。虽然这个政策转变给越南带来了巨大的经济发展，但是越南的起点非常低，依然面临着非常多的挑战，包括私营部门力量薄弱，基础设施不发达，还有贪污腐败等。
It's important to note, however, that Vietnam has made significant progress in recent years and is now one of the fastest-growing economies in Southeast Asia. Its GDP per capita has more than tripled since 2000, and poverty rates have declined rapidly. With economic reforms and investment in infrastructure and human capital, Vietnam has the potential to catch up with its neighbors and achieve middle-income status in the near future.
相比之下，马来西亚印尼菲律宾和泰国的政治要更加稳定，基础设施更加发达，而且拥有更加强大的私营部门，这使得他们可以更快的实现经济增长。而且这些国家有更多的时间来发展经济，与国际投资者和市场建立关系。
然而值得注意的是，近年来越南已经取得了重大的进展，现在它是东南亚国家中发展速度最快的经济体之一。自2000年以来，越南人均gdp已经增长了两倍多，越南的贫困率已经迅速降低。随着经济改革和对基础设施与人力资本的投入，越南有可能追上自己的邻国，并在不久的将来成为中等收入国家。
Vietnam is not poor , it’s GDP per capita is higher than Philippines and it dwarfs all of the other nations mentioned in terms of exports.
越南并不贫穷，越南的人均gdp高于菲律宾，而且在出口方面，所有东南亚国家在越南面前都要相形见绌。
· Mar 20
Its higher than India.
越南人均gdp高于印度
· Mar 21
You are right. In just a period spanning 5/6 decades they had to fight violent wars against Japanese, French, US, China as well as Cambodia , yet managed to kick all and still rising as a Phoenix.
你说的没错，在短短五六十年的时间里，越南和日本，法国，美国，中国，柬埔寨爆发了激烈的战争，但是越南成功打败了所有人，它像凤凰一样涅槃重生。
Follow Studied at Hanoi University of Science and Technology (Graduated1976)upxed Dec 6
GDP of Philippines“far behind” GDP of Vietnam
In 2022 GDP (PPP) in $ -forecast
-Malaysia 33,110 .
-Thailand 21,110
-Indonesia 14,640
-Vietnam 13,070
-Philippines 10,340
Growth GDP in 2022
-Vietnam 7%
-Philippines 6.5%
-Malaysia 5.4%
-Indonesia 5.3%
-Thailand 2.8%
菲律宾的gdp远远落后于越南
2022年购买力平价gdp预测：
马来西亚3.31万亿美元，泰国2.11万亿美元，印尼1.46万亿美元，越南1.31万亿美元，菲律宾1.03万亿美元
2022年经济增速
越南经济增速7.0%，菲律宾6.5%，马来西亚5.4%，印尼5.3%，泰国2.8%
· Mar 23
I actually think Vietnam has the potential to become one of the economical powerhouses of Asia. China is declining, so is Japan and South Korea. Vietnam has been the most popular Southeast Asian country for foreign investors for many years.
我认为越南有可能会成为亚洲的经济强国之一。中国正在衰落，韩国和日本也在衰落。越南多年来一直是最受外国投资者欢迎的东南亚国家。
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Vietnam is richer than Philippines by average income.
按照人均收入来算，越南比菲律宾更加富裕
· Mon
Vietnam now is the fastest Economic growth in ASEAN. With this highest Vietnam can surpass Indonesia as bigest Economy. The goverment should mantain his politic stability to make sure a lot of investor toward believe investment. many country became poor because of WAR. Dialogue must be the first choice..
越南现在是东盟里面发展速度最快的国家。凭借这一发展速度，越南可以超过印尼成为东盟最大的经济体。为了确保让众多投资者相信在越南投资的安全性，越南政府需要维持政治的稳定。有很多国家因为战争而陷入了贫穷。我们必须将对话作为自己的首选。