网友讨论：美国是如何扼杀日本经济的？
How USA's evil strategy KILLED Japan's economy? : Japan's economic crisis EXPLAINED in simple words
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网友：印度从美国身上获得的好处是最多的。美国是世界最大的援助国，印度是最大的受援国。印度现在最大的贸易伙伴是美国，印度在和美国的贸易中获得了巨大的贸易顺差，中国是印度第二大贸易伙伴，但印度和中国之间存在巨大的贸易逆差。美国的投资和外包让印度获得了很多的好处
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网友讨论：美国是如何扼杀日本经济的？
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"To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
-Henry Kissinger
基辛格：成为美国的敌人是危险的，但成为美国的朋友是致命的
That's why India has opted for a independent foreign policies...
这就是为什么印度选择独立自主外交政策的原因
Any country that India benefits most from is America itself.. America is biggest donor of foriegn aid in world while India is biggest recipient. India biggest trade partner right now is US which India have big surplus while 2nd biggest is China which very big deficit! India also benefits from their investment, outsourcing!
印度从美国身上获得的好处是最多的。美国是世界最大的援助国，印度是最大的受援国。印度现在最大的贸易伙伴是美国，印度在和美国的贸易中获得了巨大的贸易顺差，中国是印度第二大贸易伙伴，但印度和中国之间存在巨大的贸易逆差。美国的投资和外包让印度获得了很多的好处
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In the 90s Japan was a leading producer of semiconductor and Toshiba was accused of illegally supplying Russia, components for their submarines. So Toshiba was sanctioned and had to pay hefty fines which almost bankrupted the company, just like what the US is trying to do to Huawei and other Chinese companies today. The Plaza Accord was engineered by the Western allies and designed to impair Japanese competitiveness by making the Yen expensive.
上世纪90年代，日本是半导体的主要生产国，而东芝因为非法向俄罗斯提供潜艇零部件而受到指控，最后东芝受到了制裁， 不得不缴纳巨额罚款，这使得东芝几乎破产，美国对东芝的所作所为和如今对华为及其他中国企业的所作所为如出一辙。《广场协议》是西方盟国精心设计的，其目的就是通过提高日元汇率削弱日本的竞争力
Yesterday Japan, today china tomorrow surely India.
美国昨日打击日本，现在又要打击中国，未来肯定会打击印度
Japan must definitely have Stockholm syndrome
日本肯定有斯德哥尔摩综合症
You don't know what you're talking about.
你根本不知道你在说什么。
India has a very risky future ahead of itself, it needs to learn from as many mistakes from both itself and other countries as soon as possible and be extremely careful with every move it makes
印度的未来非常危险，印度需要尽可能地从自己和其他国家的错误上吸取教训，每一步都要非常的小心才行
Only risk I see is Adani bubble , If he busts out bank will go crazy, because they are lending him heavily, Just imagine if he announce himself bankruptcy and move to London lol.
我认为印度现在唯一的风险是阿达尼制造的泡沫，如果他破产了，那么银行会疯掉的，因为它们借了他很多钱，想象一下如果他宣布破产然后逃到伦敦的话那么会怎么样呢，哈哈
that's why we planning to make FTA with like minded countries
这就是为什么我们正计划要和志同道合的国家签订自贸协议的原因
Unfortunately we are country with people who are only concerned with religious issues
遗憾的是，我们国家的人只关心宗教问题
Japan's "fall" was from 2nd to 3rd place, and even if they fell to 4th or 5th, they'd still be a highly-developed, rich economy with high living standards and a high GDP per capita.
日本所谓的衰落只是从第二名下滑到第三名而已，即便他们下滑到第四或第五名，日本也依然还是一个高度发达富裕的经济体，他们的生活水平和人均gdp依然很高。
@Vishwanath Raju K The air quality in India in most places are worse than Japan
印度大部分地区的空气质量都不如日本
But India is projected to surpass japans gdp in future and once japan was strong enough to almost match usa's gdp
但未来印度的gdp预计会超过日本，曾经的日本非常强大，他们的gdp几乎可以和美国相媲美
@Vishwanath Raju K True, can't deny that.. Upper north, east and south India has decent air quality.. central India has too many dirty industries.
没错，这一点无法否认，印度北部、东部和南部的空气质量还不错。但印度中部有很多高污染的产业
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@Pride&Vanity only the north part of India has terrible air quality.... Everywhere else it's moderate to good !
India is the 7th largest country in the world
印度只有北部地区的空气质量不好，其中地区的空气质量都在中上水平
印度是世界领土面积第七大国
A country has to repay debts it has taken over years to fuel its growth.
Japan's total debt is 260%+ .
Govt need more debt to make its budget spending.
Since Japan is getting older, growth rates are down,
So how the Govt will get revenue to repay the loans.
国家为了推动经济发展大笔举债，但这些钱都是要还的
日本的总债务是gdp的260%
政府需要借更多的钱来支付预算
但由于日本人口老龄化，日本经济增长率不断下滑
所以日本政府要如何获得收入支付贷款呢
USA has a big role in rise and fall of Japan economy. One of the many reasons Abe was controversial because he wanted Japan to break its shackles with US and be an independent nation which decides its own policies.
美国对日本经济的兴衰起伏起着非常重要的作用。安倍备受争议的一个原因是因为他希望日本可以摆脱美国的束缚，成为一个独立自主的国家。
He got killed because of it.
所以安倍被人刺杀了
Lol abe was the most american supporting president he wanted to reinstate the army which has been americas goal
哈哈哈，安倍是最受美国人欢迎的一位首相，他希望恢复日本的军队，而这也是美国的目标
Abe was very pro American.
安倍是非常亲美的
Shinzo Abe the only true Japanese leader who wanted to have a free and independent foreign policy and also he's the reason for Indo-Japanese alliance in geopolitics.
安倍是日本唯一一个真正希望日本可以拥有自由独立外交政策的领导人，也是他促成了印日地缘政治联盟。
In 1989,8 of the 10 richest persons were Japanese and 32 of the largest 50 companies were also japanese.
But today only 1 company (Toyoto) out of the 50 largest companies is japanese and only 1 japanese person is in top 50 list of richest persons.
All due to Plaza Accords of 1985 which destroyed the export competitiveness and subsequently stagnated the economy of Japan.
1989年，世界上十个最富有的人里面有八个是日本人，世界上最大的50家企业里面有32家来自于日本
但现在世界最大的50家企业当中日本只有一家入围（丰田），世界前50大富豪当中只有一个是日本人
这一切都是因为1985年的《广场协议》，它摧毁了日本的出口竞争力，随后导致日本经济停滞不前
Yes, the USA is merciless. A multi-polar world should help Japan.
是的，美国残酷无情。多极化世界对日本是有利的
LOL they are still 10x more developed than India tho.
哈哈，但他们依然比印度发达十倍
That was phony wealth. A single park in Tokyo was "worth" more than California. Japanese companies had free money and spent it badly buying golf courses and movie studios.
那是虚假的财富。当时东京一个公园的价值就超过了加州。日本企业手里有很多闲钱，但他们却把这些钱花在了购买高尔夫球场和电影工作室上了。
its not plaza accord its bank of Japan
日本经济衰退不是因为《广场协议》而是因为银行出了问题
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We know that Japan became the 2nd largest economy in 1968. and it was a threat to the monopoly of the USA. The USA have done the same with China but they didn't have control over them as they had over Japan.
我们都知道日本在1968年成为了世界第二大经济体。而且对美国的垄断地位构成了威胁。美国正在对中国做同样的事情，但是和日本不同的是，中国并不受美国的控制
Totally correct
完全正确
Military power
军事力量
The Chinese economy is totally dependent on exporting to the US
中国经济完全依赖对美国的出口
US wanted to do same with India
美国也希望对印度做同样的事情
A country that has been in constant economic crisis for almost 4 decades now and still among one of the richest countries in the world. They must have been insanely rich back in the 80s.
近40年来，日本一直处于经济危机之中，但它依然还是世界上最富裕的国家之一，这说明他们上世纪80年代的时候一定非常的富裕
@cosmos: Yes, in the 80's, most products were made in Japan. Cars, electronic products, toys, etc.
是的，上世纪80年代，大部分产品都是日本制造的，比如汽车，电子产品，和玩具等。
When Mitsubishi bought Rockefeller Centre and Sony bought Columbia pictures in late 1980's headline were American landmarks bought by Japanese.
上世纪80年代末，三菱买下了洛克菲勒中心，索尼买下了哥伦比亚电影公司，当时的新闻上的头条信息是日本人疯狂购买美国的地标性建筑。
Now I know why Abe wants Japan to be an independent country
Sadly he had to face the same fate as of JFK.
现在我终于知道为什么安倍那么希望日本可以成为独立国家的原因了
遗憾的是，他不得不面对和肯尼迪一样的命运
Ya, he was assassinated by a Japanese citizen
是的，他被一个日本人刺杀了
Rules of geopolitics
1) never trust West
2) never forget the rule1
要牢记地缘政治准则
1永远不要相信西方
2永远不要忘记第一条准则
japan was used for manufacturing war time supplies during the korean war, which provided a substantial amount of capital that aided the post war recovery greatly, japan also received other help such as technology.
朝鲜战争时期，日本为美国生产战争物资，这为日本带来了大量的资本，对日本战后经济的恢复起到了巨大的作用，日本还获得了其他方面的帮助，比如技术援助。
There was definitely a lot of external interference in Japan's policy making post WW2, most likely they were arm-twisted to sign the plaza accord.
日本二战后的政策制定肯定受到了很多的外部干预，他们很有可能是被迫签署了《广场协议》的
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While growing up i always use to hear that japan is the next "superpower"
From last fifteen years I haven't heard people say that
在我成长过程中我一直听人们说日本是下一个超级大国
但过去十五年，我再也没有听到人们这样说了
unfortunately Japan is a vassal state of USA; Mr. Abe understood it and took measures. hopefully they will come out of USA influence in coming years. love from India.
遗憾的是，日本是美国的附属国，安倍明白这一点，并且采取了相关的措施。我希望未来日本可以摆脱美国的影响。来自印度的爱
In 1995 Japan had a 50% higher per capita gdp than the US
1995年，日本人均gdp比美国还要高出50%
Yeah, that's why the US started economic warfare against Japan, and sadly the bad guy prevailed.
是的，这就是为什么美国要对日本发动经济战的原因，遗憾的是，坏人取得了胜利
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Right after the U.S. coerced Japan to agree to the Plaza Accord, Japan's economy began to experience stagnation.
在美国强迫日本签署《广场协议》后，日本经济开始陷入了停滞。
Not right after - quite a few years after. I lived there at the time - the Japanese economy continued to grow strongly until 1993's.
日本在签署《广场协议》后没有马上衰退，而是又过了几年后才出现了问题。我当时就住在日本，在1993年之前，日本经济一直都在强劲增长
@Brian Bailey I last visited Japan in 2016. Sure, the major cities are clean, modern and well organized. But the industries in which Japan led the world in the 1970s and 1980s, such as shipbuilding and consumer electronics, are no longer competitive.
2016年我访问了日本。日本的大城市的确非常干净，现代，而且井井有条。但是日本在上世纪70年代和80年代领先世界的产业（如造船业和消费类电子产品）已经没有什么竞争力了。
japan is having too many foreigners.
日本的外国人太多了
economy stop growing doesn't mean their quality of life turn to shit over night.
经济停止增长并不意味着他们的生活质量就会在一夜之间大幅下滑
That what happened when u believe in the WEST. There are saying "to be the USA enemies is Dangerous, but to be the USA Allies is FATAL
这就是相信西方的下场。有句话说：成为美国的敌人是危险的，但成为美国的朋友却是致命的
In the 80's in Australia, people often say Japan lost the war but won the peace, and make sure your kids learn Japanese as they will rule the world soon.
在上世纪80年代的澳大利亚，人们经常说日本输掉了战争，但赢得了和平，要让孩子学习日语，因为他们很快将会统治世界