所谓高级餐厅的菜肴不就是智商税吗？
What thing do you hate the most about restaurants?
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QA问答“你最讨厌餐厅的什么？”
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Joseph Parisella
I hate this.
我讨厌这个。
I hate this.
我讨厌这个。
This is not a meal. This is not a main course and this is certainly not worth over fifty fucking dollars.
When I go to a restaurant I don't only expect the food to taste good; I also expect that I won't have to order a big Mac afterwards because I'm still feeling hungry.
I get that ingredients may be expensive and I get that you’re not just paying for the food, you're paying for the experience but if the food doesn't fill me up then I see no point in going there in the first place.
这不是一顿饭。这不是一道主菜，当然也不值他妈的五十多美元。
当我去餐馆时，我不仅希望食物味道好，我还希望之后我不必因为仍然感到饥饿而去订购巨无霸。
我知道食材可能很贵，而且我也知道你不仅要为食物买单，还要为体验买单，但如果食物不能让我吃饱，那么我一开始就认为没有必要去那里。
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Isn't that kind of food is served if you pay for like a 7 course meal?
如果您支付7道菜一餐的餐费，难道不提供那种食物吗？
It is and all seven courses when strerched out across the hours it takes to get there would still fail sate my hunger.
是的，七道菜在到达那里的几个小时里都吃了，但还是不能满足我的饥饿感。
Oops. I didn't go consider the waiting time. Yup, better eat at Subway or somewhere fulfilling!
哎呀。我没有考虑到等待时间。是啊，最好去赛百味或者其他让人满意的地方吃!
The time, and the portion size, are carefully factored into the experience. I am a professional chef and restaurant manager. I have dined at this style of restaurant many times, and have never ONCE left hungry. Not once.
And I can polish off 2 huge burritos like it’s nothing, I’m no snob. It’s in the restaurant’s best interest to make sure the customers are happy. Usually, making sure people don’t get TOO full is the challenge.
时间和份量都被仔细考虑到体验中。我是一名专业厨师和餐厅经理。我在这种风格的餐厅吃过很多次饭，从来没有饿过。一次也没有。
而且我也可以轻而易举地吃掉两个大卷饼，我不是势利眼。确保顾客满意符合餐厅的最大利益。通常情况下，确保人们不会吃得太饱是一项挑战。
Maybe fine dining is not for you haha. An all-you-can-eat buffet like Golden Corral or Chuck A Rama sounds more fitting
也许高级餐饮不适合你哈哈。像Golden Corral或Chuck A Rama这样的自助餐听起来更合适。
I was once at a “fancy” restaurant and I ordered soup. The waiter first gave me a huge soup bowl and then proceeded to pour into the bowl exactly one ladle of soup from a tureen. We then ordered some other dish and again a very large plate was given with three small edible items positioned on the plate at 120 degrees from each other separated by a line of different color sauces.
Needless to say, we left the restaurant still hungry after paying a hefty bill and went to some fast food place to eat.
有一次我在一家“高级”餐厅点了汤。服务员先给了我一个巨大的汤碗，然后从盖碗里倒了一勺汤到碗里。然后我们又点了另一道菜，同样是一个非常大的盘子，盘子上有三个小的可食用的东西，彼此呈120度角摆放在盘子上，中间用一排不同颜色的酱汁隔开。
不用说，在付了一大笔账单后，我们离开餐馆时仍然很饿，然后去一些快餐店吃东西。
Bloody hell that would be comical if it wasn't so aggravating. I get that people want a food experience, I don't begrudge them that but I go to a restaurant to eat, get full and go not to sample a meagre morsel and pretentiously exclaim how the smoked pear complimented the blue cheese and honeyed fig perfectly.
该死的，那太滑稽了，如果不是那么令人恼火的话。我明白人们想要一种美食体验，我并不嫉妒他们，但我去餐馆吃饭，是要吃饱，而不要去品尝微不足道（极少量）的食物，并做作地感叹烟熏梨与蓝奶酪和蜂蜜无花果的搭配是多么完美。
Exactly! and the pretentiousness of serving everything in huge dishes just accented the fact that there was nothing there.
完全正确!把所有的东西都盛在大盘子里的做作，正好强调了那里什么都没有的事实。
I mean sure, the quantities should be decent. But you gotta keep in mind that fine dining should involve a plethora of plates, no a single entree. I've never been to a fine dining restaurant where I left hungry because of small portions.
Sure, I've had plates like the one in the picture, but it was one of 7 different dishes. Part of the experience is to sample a variety of flavors that compliment each other from plate to plate.
我的意思是，当然，数量应该是合适的。但你要记住，美食应该有很多盘，而不是单一的主菜。我从来没有去过一家因为菜品少份而让我饿着肚子的高档餐厅。
当然，我也遇到过像照片上这样的盘子，但它是一道菜品7个不同的盘子之一。体验的一部分是品尝不同的口味，从一盘到另一盘相互补充。
At the end of the meal you should have asked the waiter to please scrub the table clean because you want to leave him his tip. Then proceeded to leave three dollar bills, each positioned 120 degrees from each other separated by a line of pennies.
用餐结束时，你应该请服务员把桌子擦干净，因为你想给他小费。然后留下三张美元钞票，每张钞票相隔120度，由一行硬币隔开。
Excellent idea!! I really like it and hope never to have to use it.
好主意！！我真的很喜欢它，希望永远不必使用它。
I used to think the same way, until I truly understood. Fancy restaurants serve customers who aren't hungry for a meal or in life. They're pretty full all the time and have more money than need to eat.
So when I go, I make sure I'm not hungry. After all, I'm there to experience the decadence it takes to cajole some food down some rich man's full gullet. Try it and you'll find the 2-4 hours while away as easily as the $100–300 per head.
我以前也是这么想的，直到我真正理解了。高档餐厅服务的顾客都是对食物或生活不是很渴望（“饥饿”）的人。他们总是吃得很饱，拥有比吃饭所需的更多的钱。
所以当我去的时候，我确保我不饿。毕竟，我在那里是为了体验一种堕落，这种堕落是为了把一些食物哄骗到某个富人的饱肚子里。尝试一下，你会发现消磨2-4个小时的时间就像人均100-300美元一样轻松。
Still, I don't see the logic and I love cooking gourmet dishes!
不过，我还是不明白其中的逻辑，我喜欢烹饪美食！
I don’t quite agree with this. To be able to enjoy a meal, you need to be at least a little bit hungry. The way you need to be a little bit thirsty to enjoy a drink. And the way you need to be a little bit (or more) horny, to enjoy sex. Your reasoning makes it seem like I eat little because I’m not hungry.
我不太同意这种说法。为了能享受一顿饭，你至少需要有一点点饿。就像你需要有点渴才能享受一杯酒。你需要一点点(或更多)饥渴，才能享受性爱。你的推理让我觉得我吃得少是因为我不饿。
Yeah, I’m afraid you went to a place that sells a food experience when you were looking for a meal. These food experience restaurants are for a particular kind of customer, like me, who seeks out the one-of-a-kind food experience. I don’t go there when I’m really just hungry.
是啊，恐怕你在找饭吃的时候却去了一个卖美食体验的地方。这些美食体验餐厅是为像我这样寻求独一无二的美食体验的特定类型的客户服务的。如果我真的饥饿，我不会去那里。
well, when one wants to find his happpiness in food, I believe it is not a normal situation.
嗯，当一个人想在食物中找到他的快乐时，我相信这是不正常的情况。
It’s like art, which makes some people feel happy. Food can be presented as art, just as house paint can be presented as art. The experience is what you make of it.
这就像艺术，它让一些人感到快乐。食物可以作为艺术呈现，就像房子的油漆可以作为艺术呈现一样。体验是由你自己创造的。
It is called the “hunger experience”. You pay big money, you remain hungry. You get to feel both rich and poor.
这被称为“饥饿体验”。你付了很多钱，但你仍然很饿。你会感到既富有又贫穷。
Such restaurants are not for family dinner rather having some formal or semi-formal dinner or lunches. Those people are not there to fill their tummy but to have discussions and meetings in a decent environment with soothing ambiance. If you are going outside with your friends or family always go for a average to middle class restaurant, you will get enough food to fill your stomach.
这种餐厅不适合家庭聚餐，而是提供正式或半正式的晚餐或午餐。这些人来这里不是为了填饱肚子，而是为了在一个舒适的环境中讨论和开会。如果你和你的朋友或家人出去，一定要去一家平均到中等水平的餐馆，你会得到足够的食物来填饱你的胃。
Dining plate rental cost 45$
Food cost 5$
餐盘租金45美元
食物花费5美元
If you are just looking for a filling meal, this particular kind of restaurant is not for you. There is almost zero chance you could get reservations at this style of dining without knowing what you’re signing up for. Here dinner is probably going to take 2–3 hours, with very small, super-stylized dishes and the meal planned to be eaten in a particular order. If anything expecting to feel comfortably full, rather than just not hungry, would be a bit gauche.
(Also depending on where that lobster or whatever shellfish that is came from, and what amount of prep of it was required, and the amount of waste generated by the knife work required for the garnish/vegetables, yeah, after you’re done with food and labor $50 seems fair.)
如果你只是想饱餐一顿，这种餐厅不适合你。如果你不知道自己订的是什么，你几乎不可能在这种类型的餐厅订到位子。在这里，晚餐可能要花2-3个小时，菜肴都非常小份，非常有风格化，用餐的顺序也很特别。如果你只是想舒服地吃饱，而不是不饿，那就有点俗气了。
(这也取决于龙虾或任何贝类的产地，需要多少准备工作，以及装饰/蔬菜所需的刀工产生的浪费量，是的，在你考虑到食物和劳动力成本之后，50美元似乎是公平的。)
I love comments like this. It reminds me of a blind wine tasting for a bunch of pretentious wine connoisseurs who couldn't tell the difference between a 1000 dollar bottle and a 20 dollar California wine. Some people are just so full of themselves it's comical.
我喜欢这样的评论。这让我想起了一群做作的葡萄酒鉴赏家的盲目品酒会，他们分不清1000美元一瓶的葡萄酒和20美元一瓶的加州葡萄酒。有些人就是太做作了，这很滑稽。
You aren’t supposed to go to places like that hungry anyway.
反正你也不应该饿着肚子去那种地方。
YES!
Frigging art on a plate, cannot stand that pretentious nonsense. How are you meant to fulfil your hunger on a couple of morsels on a plate.
是的!
该死的盘子里的艺术，我受不了那些做作的废话。你怎么可能只靠盘子里的几口食物就能填饱肚子呢?
I tried this kind of restaurant once. I am amazed that I can still remember the taste of the food today. It is not meant for hunger, it is meant for luxury.
我尝试过一次这种餐厅。我很惊讶，我今天仍然记得那里食物的味道。它不是为了饥饿，而是为了奢侈。
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Glad someone said that. This just doesn't make sense to me either.
很高兴有人这么说。这对我来说也没什么意义。
In this type of restaurants you are not going to have a plate of Biryani / Double-cheese burger to satiate your hunger. Here the chefs are being creative to present you their version or concept of food. These are usually part of multi-course tasting menu ranging anywhere from 10 course to 30 course and costing anywhere in between $200 to $500+. Few would love to tryout different variations of the food and experience something different and fewer have the money to afford the experience.
Not all those who spend their money on such things are evil capitalists.
Watch chef’s table, Netflix originals, to learn more about who cooks in such and such ways and why they do so. It is a wonderful little world.
P.S.: I haven’t had the chance to try out in any such restaurants. The thought of spending $200+ for a meal is not quite relatable to me. There are folks who do that and I am totally fine with that.
在这种类型的餐厅里，你不会有一盘印度比尔亚尼菜或者双层奶酪汉堡来充饥。在这里，厨师们创造性地向你展示他们的食物版本或概念。这些通常是多道菜品尝菜单的一部分，从10道菜到30道菜不等，价格在200美元到500美元以上。很少有人会喜欢尝试不同的食物和体验不同的东西，也很少有人有足够的钱去体验。
并不是所有把钱花在这些东西上的人都是邪恶的资本家。
观看chef 's table,或者Netflix的原创节目，了解更多关于谁用这样那样的方式做饭，以及他们为什么这样做。这是一个奇妙的小世界。
附注:我还没有机会在任何这样的餐厅尝试。花200多美元吃一顿饭的想法对我来说不是很有意义。但我完全接受有些人这样做。