话题评论：97岁的纳粹集中营前秘书被德国法院定罪，判处两年缓刑-网帖翻译-龙腾网

@jboycaceres2871
My late grandpa, was tortured by the Japanese Army during WW2. During his last years, he was no longer carrying grudge against Japan/Japanese people, but he used to remind us frequently that we must never forget our relatives who died and fell victims during the war, and their stories, that we share them to our descendants.

我已故的爷爷在二战期间受到日本军队的折磨。在他最后的岁月里，他不再对日本/日本人民怀恨在心，但他经常提醒我们，我们永远不要忘记在战争中死去和成为受害者的亲人，以及他们的故事，我们要把他们的故事分享给我们的后代。

@prismpyre7653
your grandpa was a soldier, not a civilian who was slaughtered in cold blood along with his entire family

你爷爷是一名军人，而不是与全家一起被冷血屠杀的平民。

@floro7687
Well, the US hanged Japanese for waterboarding. Now the US claims it was ok on the Iraqis,

美国因为水刑绞死了日本人。现在美国说将其用在伊拉克人身上没问题，

@jboycaceres2871
@@prismpyre7653 Actually, I'm a Filipino, my grandparents were Filipino-Spanish. My grandfather was the village mailman in a rural town in Bicol Region, south of Manila when the war broke out in the Pacific. Many of our ancestors/ his cousins were arrested and never returned. Many of his aunts/ uncles died due to malnourishments, to think that they were from the family of land lords.

@@prismpyre7653 事实上，我是菲律宾人，我的祖父母是菲律宾裔西班牙人。太平洋战争爆发时，我的祖父是马尼拉南部比科尔地区一个乡村小镇的邮差。我们的许多祖先/他的堂兄弟被逮捕，再也没有回来。他的许多叔叔阿姨都死于营养不良，想想他们来自地主家庭。

@bugsygoo
My mother lost her father in the war. He was a soldier. She still hates the Germans. I don't hate Germans, but I could not possibly ask her to forgive what Germany did to her. And he was a soldier, so his death wasn't murder like so many others were at the hands of Germans.

我母亲在这场战争中失去了父亲。他是一名士兵。她仍然憎恨德国人。我不恨德国人，但我不可能要求她原谅德国对她所做的一切。而且他是一名士兵，所以他不像其他许多人那样是被德国人谋杀的。

@CHMichael
At least you all understand why Americans are hated in the middle east.

至少你们都明白为什么美国人在中东遭人恨。

@CHMichael
@@user-jv9cs6ey8c Glass house -- rocks .

@@user-jv9cs6ey8c 玻璃房- 石头。
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@geeksworkshop
@@prismpyre7653 You know anyone can join the army and help protect their families and country. And did you know many don't have any choice.

@@prismpyre7653 你知道吗，任何人都可以参军保护自己的家庭和国家。而且你知道吗，很多人别无选择。

@geeksworkshop
@@bugsygoo Racism is racism, doesn't change just because you have an excuse.

@@bugsygoo 种族主义就是种族主义，不会因为你有一个借口就改变。

@fenseti3793
The japanese promised Asia for asians, because of this we indonesians have a big respect for the japanese for standing up for asia's honour. They call it war of emancipation and almost all of asia were under the thumb of western imperialism including the philliphines. Our grandpas didnt even know what freedoms even mean since the europeans are here since long time ago. As Lee Kuan Yew puts it the british way of life is just superior its a fact of life and the british empire was supposed to last 1000 years until the japanese destroyed that illusion.

日本人承诺亚洲属于亚洲人，正因为如此，我们印尼人非常尊敬日本人，因为他们为亚洲的荣誉挺身而出。他们称之为解放战争，几乎整个亚洲都在西方帝国主义的控制下，包括菲律宾。我们的祖父甚至不知道自由意味着什么，因为欧洲人很久以前就来了。正如李光耀所说，英国人的生活方式是优越的，这是生活的事实，大英帝国应该持续1000年，直到日本人摧毁了这个幻想。

@bugsygoo
@@geeksworkshop Nor does idiocy. What's your excuse?

@@geeksworkshop 白痴也一样。你的借口是什么?
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@user-fm8mr2fo5k
If it weren't for Japanese, there could never have been the liberation of Asia from European colonialism

如果没有日本人，亚洲就不可能从欧洲殖民主义中解放出来。

@bigcunt5689
@@fenseti3793 @xyz The Japanese got curb stomped and European colonialism was already massively in decline by ww2. Thank Australia and the US that you’re not currently speaking Japanese

@@fenseti3793 @xyz 日本人被打垮了，欧洲殖民主义在二战时已经大规模衰落。感谢澳大利亚和美国，你们现在才没有说日语。

@CHMichael
@@fenseti3793 I think the Chinese still have bad memories of the Japanese occupation - hard to find a country without a history .

@@fenseti3793 我认为中国人仍然对日本占领时期有不好的记忆——很难找到一个没有历史的国家。

@kaleemullah247
@@CHMichael yet they love everything with 'made in USA' on it

@@CHMichael 然而他们喜欢所有标有“美国制造”的东西。

@CHMichael
@@kaleemullah247 and that's great because holding a grudge doesn't help anyone.
We all have to work towards a future where we get along.
So many regions could prosper if neighbors would forgive each other .

@@kaleemullah247 这很好，因为怀恨在心对谁都没有好处。
我们都必须为一个能和睦相处的未来而努力。
如果邻国能够相互原谅，那么许多地区都能繁荣发展。
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@thekittyqueen3495
There is no justice when this woman lived unscathed to the age of 97 years. I hope she is with it enough to know that she now lives in disgrace, and the memory of her will not be honorable.

这位妇女毫发无损地活到了97岁，这是不公平的。我希望她带着这段记忆获得够久，久到让她能明白，她现在生活在耻辱中，人们对她的记忆将是不光彩的。

@fenseti3793
read some history, the japanese helped indonesians to politically organize the country and eventually helped the proclamation of independence in 1945. The dutch despite occupied during the war fought tooth and nails to restore its power here. That until the soviet unx and the usa step in. You thought the us and australia were good? we ought to thank the soviet unx that help to fight the dutch and its western allies

读些历史吧，日本人曾帮助印尼在政治上组织国家，并最终帮助印尼在1945年宣布独立。荷兰人尽管在战争期间占领了这里，但还是竭尽全力的恢复在这里的权力。直到苏联和美国介入。你以为美国和澳大利亚很好? 我们应该感谢苏联帮助我们对抗荷兰人和它的西方盟友。

@VisibilityFoggy
Legitimate question for anyone who knows more about this: Assuming this woman did know what was going on (how could she not have?) is there anything she could have done about it? Would she have been able to quit? Who would she have reported it to? It's fine to have secured the conviction, but I'm wondering what they expected a secretary working for a fascist regime in the 1940s to have done with information she came across. I'll assume she didn't have access to allied spy networks or western news agencies.

对任何更了解这件事的人来说，合理的问题是：假设这个女人知道发生了什么(她怎么可能不知道?)，她能做些什么吗? 她能辞职吗? 她该向谁报告此事? 定罪是件好事，但我想知道，他们期望一个在20世纪40年代为法西斯政权工作的秘书如何处理她所看到的信息。我猜她接触不到盟国的间谍网络或者西方新闻机构。

@anacc3257
Good question. Just a correction, the German regime was national socialist, not fascist

好问题。更正一下，当时的德国政权是国家社会主义，而不是法西斯主义。

@Kamila.k
She should have quit. No one expected her to end the concentration camps on her own. At least don’t take part in them. Simple as that. She volunteered to get hired.

她应该辞职的。没有人指望她凭一己之力终结集中营。至少不要参加。就这么简单。她自告奋勇被录用。

@anna-flora1899
@@anacc3257 it was both

@@anacc3257 兼而有之。

@VisibilityFoggy
@@Kamila.k That's my question, though. Could she have just "quit?"

@@Kamila.k 这就是我的问题。她可以直接“辞职”吗?

@kriskalpa6346
She would have been shot, she had absolutely no power to obxt to anything. I assume she was aware, but couldn't do anything about it at all. Holding her responsible is mindless. Do they not understand how the NSDAP worked?

她会被枪毙的，她绝对没有权力反对任何东西。我猜她是知道的，但却无能为力。让她负责是愚蠢的。难道他们不明白纳粹党是怎么运作的吗?

@anna-flora1899
@@kriskalpa6346 do you?

@@kriskalpa6346 你呢？

@Monsterpala
Considering a wrong word back then could get you on the other side of the fence and talking about camps was certainly getting you an inside tour I find it a bit silly to start judging the secretary now. Guards may be another issue but you have to wonder what the judge would have done and even more one should wonder if we looked into what the judges back then did during and after the war. I am sure a lot hadn't shared their collective responsibility.

在那个时候，思考一个错误的词可能会让你站到围栏的另一边，而谈论营地肯定会让你进入其中。我觉得现在开始评判这位秘书有点愚蠢。警卫可能是另一个问题，但你必须想知道法官会做什么，更应该想知道我们是否调查了当时的法官在战争期间和战后做了什么。我相信很多人都没有分担他们的集体责任。
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@charlesmegan5582
keep in mind, a lot of the "facts" were added after the war. Nothing she could have truly done about any of it.

请记住，许多“事实”是在战后添加的。她对此无能为力。

@kylechetram915
@@anacc3257 They called themself national socialist, but the result was fascism.

@@anacc3257 他们自称为国家社会主义者，但结果却是法西斯主义。

@Bitchslapper316
@@Kamila.k I feel you are looking at this through a western 2022 lense. Try to put yourself in that position. It's not like quitting your job at starbucks.

@@Kamila.k 我觉得你是通过西方2022年的视角来看待这个问题的。试着把你自己放在那个位置上。这跟你辞去星巴克的工作不一样。

@thematic3893
I disagree. If you was a guard and refused you’d earn yourself a first class train ticket to the Eastern front. Where you would lose your life very quickly.

我不同意。如果你是一个卫兵，拒绝的话你会为自己赢得一张去东线的头等火车票。在那里你很快就会失去生命。
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@wordscapes5690
I grew up in Apartheid South Africa. I've been in prison three times. I am white. I said no. I am a very average, rather cowardly person. There is no excuse.

我在种族隔离的南非长大。我进过三次监狱。我是白人。我说不。我是一个非常普通，相当懦弱的人。没有任何借口。

@user-kb4md6qo4m
Complicated or just trying to survive themselves. What was this woman suppose to do exactly

复杂化或者只是为了自己生存。这个女人究竟该做什么。

@Your_President_Kanye_East
Exactly. She was just a clerk. I don't think the SS would have been very understanding and sympathetic if she'd told them that she could not continue working at the concentration camp, because she found its activities morally dubious.

完全正确。她只是个职员。如果她告诉党卫军她不能继续在集中营工作，因为她觉得集中营的活动存在道德疑点，我认为他们不会很理解和同情她。

@wordscapes5690
I don't think you fully understand what the death camps were.

我觉得你还不完全了解死亡集中营是什么。

@user-kb4md6qo4m
@@wordscapes5690 I do as much as anyone can that wasn't there

@@wordscapes5690 我跟那些没有去那里的人了解的一样多。

@Your_President_Kanye_East
@@wordscapes5690 The question is, what the SS would have done if she had quit this job. Would they have investigated her as a possible philosemite?

@@wordscapes5690 问题是，如果她辞掉了这份工作，党卫军会怎么做。他们会调查她是否可能是哲学家吗?

@Melaniebanerjee1
Julia didn't answer the last question though, explaining conviction till 2000s is not equivalent to why it took so long. Symbolism is alright but justice delayed will always be justice denied

但茱莉亚没有回答最后一个问题，直到2000年才解释信念并不等于为什么花了这么长时间。象征主义是可以的，但迟来的正义总是在否定正义。

@GrillerGT
Hopefully this will finally become history...

希望这最终将成为历史……

@EvarDion
She didn't know about the crimes even though she was the chief secretary in charge of typing out all of records of the camp commander and the messages between the camp and the outside world? I didn't know people could type with their eyes and ears closed...

她是负责打印所有营长记录和营区与外界通信的首席秘书，却不知道这些罪行。我不知道人们可以闭着眼睛和耳朵打字……

@charlesmegan5582
that or the crimes were added after the fact. keep your mind open and do some research.

或者这些罪名是事后加进去的。保持开放的心态，多做研究。

@EvarDion
@@charlesmegan5582 are you trying to suggest that all of the crimes at the concentration camp were committed after she left in April 1945?.. that seems a little far fetched..

@@charlesmegan5582 你是在暗示集中营里所有的罪行都是在她1945年4月离开后犯下的吗? 这似乎有点牵强。

@kylechetram915
@@charlesmegan5582 That's the dumbest hot take. Guess time is relative to you.

@@charlesmegan5582 这是最愚蠢的热评。我猜时间和你有关。

@Bitchslapper316
Who knows. I'd argue what was she supposed to do about it? Was she going to pickup a gun and take on the SS?

谁知道呢。我想问她该怎么做? 她会拿起枪去对付党卫军吗?

@charlesmegan5582
@@kylechetram915 do you believe everything you’re told? Maybe do some research on your own, champ

@@kylechetram915 你相信别人告诉你的一切吗? 也许你自己做点调查吧，沙雕。

@kylechetram915
@@charlesmegan5582 Charlie boy better get back to his research then, wonder what he'll say next. The sky isn't blue and the earth is flat? Since you love research so much you should join me at Columbia.

@@charlesmegan5582 小查理，“最好回去研究”，不知道他接下来会说什么。天不是蓝的，地不是平的? 既然你这么喜欢研究，你应该和我一起上哥伦比亚大学。

@urface640
She's still responsible for the deaths of 10k peopledoesn't matter if she didn't know or if she couldn't get out of it, she's still responsible for the deaths of people that could've otherwise been alive today

她仍然要为1万人的死亡负责。不管她是否不知道，或者她是否无法摆脱，她仍然要为那些本来可以活到今天的人的死亡负责。

@user-ne4fm2jp5z
Any Russians assisting the war effort should take note the world will never forget.

任何协助战争的俄罗斯人都应该注意到，世界永远不会忘记。

@user-ne4fm2jp5z
@@coin9007 more recent leaders were doing much worse things but we don’t punish their families. We come after people for their individual actions. This is why I say any Russians assisting in the war effort and not just any Russians. Everyone wants to go after the people involved in the British empires slave trade but they are all dead.

@@coin9007 更近的领导人做了更糟糕的事情，但我们不会惩罚他们的家人。我们因为人们的个人行为追查他们。这就是为什么我说任何俄罗斯人都在协助这场战争，而且不仅仅是任何俄罗斯人。每个人都想追捕那些参与大英帝国奴隶贸易的人，但他们都死了。

@charlesmegan5582
and the world will change history to reflect what they want. true or false.

世界将改变历史以反映他们想要的东西。无论对错。

@user-ne4fm2jp5z
@@charlesmegan5582 so you claim but historians don’t believe you.

@@charlesmegan5582 你这么说，但历史学家不相信你。

@suportbghelp4938
@@user-ne4fm2jp5z Whole Africa remember well, now you going to wonder again why they support Russia?

@@user-ne4fm2jp5z 整个非洲都记得很清楚，现在你又想知道为什么他们支持俄罗斯了?
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@charlesmegan5582
@@user-ne4fm2jp5z what constitutes a historian?? I have a history degree… maybe if you did too you’d see the multiple sides to every story or have heard the saying… to the victor goes history ♂️

@@user-ne4fm2jp5z 什么是历史学家?我有历史学位，如果你也有，也许你会看到每个故事的多个方面，或者听过“历史属于胜利者”这句话。

@Bitchslapper316
@@suportbghelp4938 Yeah except they don't support Russia. Your talking like one country out of 50.

@@suportbghelp4938 对对对，只是他们并不支持俄罗斯。你说的国家50个里大概有一个。

@user-ne4fm2jp5z
@@suportbghelp4938 about half of Africa supports Ukraine, half is neutral and a negligible country supports Russia. So overall if Africa had to pick a side it would be with Ukraine.

@@suportbghelp4938 大约一半的非洲国家支持乌克兰，一半是中立国家，还有一个微不足道的国家支持俄罗斯。所以总的来说，如果非洲必须选择一个阵营，那就是乌克兰。

@user-ne4fm2jp5z
@@suportbghelp4938 you should inform the UN delegates they are wrong where their country stands because YouTube comments

@@suportbghelp4938 因为YouTube上的评论，你应该告诉联合国代表，说他们国家的立场是错误的。

@user-ne4fm2jp5z
@@suportbghelp4938 you seem big mad you should educate your UN delegates better. In my country the official position is the real one.

@@suportbghelp4938 你看起来很疯狂。你应该更好地教育你们国家的联合国代表。在我们国家，官方的立场才是真正的立场。

@lemon1657
They put her on trial at 97 even though she was the lead secretary of the camp? What were they doing between 1945 and 2022? Biding their time? It's a farce but it answers why she only got 2 years. She's practically dust already. They'll be lucky if she serves a month of her sentence ♂️

他们在她97岁时对她进行审判，尽管她是集中营的首席秘书? 1945年到2022年间他们在做什么? 等待时机? 这是一场闹剧，但它解释了为什么她只被判了两年。她几乎已经入土了。如果她能服刑一个月，他们就走运了。

@TheFrosstitute
because she's too old to work for NASA now so she has done her part

因为她太老了，现在不能为NASA工作，所以她的工作做完了。
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@user-jv9cs6ey8c
They answered that in the video.

他们在视频中回答了这个问题。

@afre3398
She got a suspended sentence. This is a judicial punishment which is not enforced unless a further crime is committed during a specified period. So if she stays on the correct path of the law. She will not go to prison

她被判缓刑。这是一种司法惩罚，除非在特定时期内发生进一步的犯罪，否则不执行。所以如果她走正确的法律之路。她不会进监狱。

@aroddo2953
@@lemon1657 oh, so you think the holocaust is funny. Go on, then.

@@lemon1657 所以你觉得大屠杀很好笑。那请继续。

@velcrofox8159
@@user-jv9cs6ey8c They didn't, in the video they say that the trials dwindled 10 years after WWII and did not start again until the 2000s, no answer as to why.

@@user-jv9cs6ey8c 他们没有，在视频中，他们说，二战后10年，审判逐渐减少，直到21世纪才重新开始，没有解释为什么。

@marianacabrera3311
I don't want to think wrong but after the war, there was a lot of loyalty to the old system and many find it difficult to accept the new order. Among them the judiciary system who they had also being part of the old one. That's why millions were not convicted. They kind of let it go...

我不想错想，但战后，人们对旧体制有很多忠诚，许多人发现很难接受新秩序，其中包括司法系统，他们也是旧系统的一部分。这就是为什么数百万人没有被定罪。他们就这样放手了……

@marianacabrera3311
@@afre3398 This is so infuriating. What's the justice here.

@@afre3398 这太让人生气了。公正何在?

@blkbks13
I feel this is just for show, because the whole world let them get away with it. Should have happened in 1945.

我觉得这只是作秀，因为整个世界都让他们逍遥法外。1945年就该发生了。

@lemon1657
@@velcrofox8159 Exactly, they had some trials for the super high ranking officers that didn't escape to Argentina and then swept the rest under the rug. Guess they were exhausted after working so hard for 5 years. They really invested & depleted their energy and resources on the final solution so there wasn't much left for all those tedious trials ♂️

@@velcrofox8159 没错，他们对那些没有逃到阿根廷的高级军官进行了审判，然后把剩下的都丢到了地毯下。我猜他们辛苦工作了5年，累坏了。他们真的在最终解决方案上投入了精力和资源，所以没有多少时间留给那些乏味的审判了。

@Nista357
@@TheFrosstitute HAHAHAHAHA

哈哈哈哈。

@christopherx7428
Of course she knew about what was going on. However, so what? It was war and she was a citizen of a totalitarian state. What was she supposed to do? A secretary is not exactly the one that pulls the trigger either. This verdict seems a lot more symbolic than logical to me.

她当然知道发生了什么事。然而，那又怎样? 那是一场战争，而她是一个极权国家的公民。她该怎么做? 秘书也不是那个扣动扳机的人。在我看来，这个判决更具象征意义而非逻辑意义。

@Bitchslapper316
I have similar thoughts. I can't find any of the specifics aside from that she was 18 at the time and also that the base commander only got 11 years in prison.

我也有类似的想法。我找不到任何细节，除了她当时18岁，还有基地指挥官只被判了11年监禁。

If she was doing things like writing down execution orders and delivering them to soldiers I can see this being important and something they should have done a long time ago. To bad these segments didn't give any details on her crimes.

如果她做的事情是写下执行命令并交给士兵，我认为这很重要，他们很久以前就应该这么做了。糟糕的是，这些片段没有提供她犯罪的任何细节。

@ml7918
She could have NOT VOLUNTEER

她本可以不做志愿者的。

@MountainlionHills3
I agree as sick as it is they have to follow orders or else they get killed themselves

我同意，尽管那样很恶心，但他们必须服从命令，否则他们就会死。
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@MountainlionHills3
@@ml7918 true but everybody. Had to get involved in some way thier was no falling between the cracks you were part of it weather you liked it or not

@@ml7918 没错，但是每个人都不得不以某种方式参与进来，没有差别，你是其中的一部分，不管你喜欢与否。

@user-ob5ue3px3z
We never hear the end of it, even though 80yrs have passed. But what did you hear about justice for the Rawandans, Cambodians, Ugandans, or the multitude of other genocides that have occured during the last 80yrs. Not least we talk about the crimes of the Japanese all over South East Asia. Seems like money talks when it comes to a certain class above the rest

即使80年过去了，我们也从未听到它的结束。但是你听到了关于卢旺达人，柬埔寨人，乌干达人，或者在过去80年里发生的其他种族灭绝的正义吗? 尤其是当我们谈论日本人在东南亚犯下的罪行时。当说道某个高于其他的特定阶级时，似乎金钱说了算。

@fnckbook8564
"Let the rain fall down to the ground
And the birds don't sing, no, they don't make a sound
When you're six feet underground
...
So I look to the sky, tell me why, tell me why
Do they all get to live, and I have to die?"

“让雨落在地上，
鸟儿不鸣，不，它们不发出声音，
当你在六英尺深的地下，

……

所以我仰望天空，告诉我为什么，告诉我为什么
难道他们都能活着，而我却得死?”

@davideunbekannt7726
In future tyrants will need to make sure that staff records are not kept or are fabricated

未来，暴君们将需要确保员工记录不存下来，或伪造。

@cestlextase
do something about the ppl trying to do it again.

对那些想再次做这种事的人做点什么。

@mikeoxlong7525
Yeah, they're in Israel and run the show.

是啊，他们在以色列，并且操纵局势。

@anacc3257
Communists?

共产主义者？

@TheRealBlueValhalla
@@anacc3257 no

@@anacc3257 不。

@AerialEscape
@@mikeoxlong7525 ding ding ding.. winner winner

@@mikeoxlong7525 叮叮叮……冬天冬天。

@anubizz3
You mean Japan and Germany built up their military to try their Asian Empire and forth Reich dream once again?

你的意思是日本和德国建立他们的军队是为了再次尝试他们的亚洲帝国和第四帝国梦?

@indiekosmos
Denial "WE DIDNT KNOW" is a key feature of EVERY genocide.

否认“我们不知道”是每一次种族灭绝的关键特征。

@wordscapes5690
Correct. You hear it from the whites in South Africa too.

正确的。你也从南非的白人那里听到过。

@anasmohamed6013
even if she knew what was she gonna do about it?
grab a rifle and try freeing the prisoners risking her own life?
pretty sure if you were in her shoes you ll still do the same knoing your life is on the line if you flinch

即使她知道自己该怎么做?
拿起来复枪冒着生命危险去解救囚犯?
我敢肯定，如果你是她，知道如果你退缩，你的生命就在危险之中，你仍然会做同样的事情。

@bigzed7908
If there is a just God, you fill in the rest.

天老大你老二。

@Monsterpala
Thats what you call swift justice. They may have missed doctors, lawyers and others most already dead but at least the secretary isn't getting away.

这就是你所说的迅速公正。他们可能错过了医生、律师和其他大多数已经死亡的人，但至少这位秘书没有逃脱。
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@kriskalpa6346
This is ridiculous! What on earth could she have done to obxt as a young typist? Prosecuting her is an enormous waste of resources. She is not responsible in any way for the atrocities.

太荒谬了! 作为一个年轻的打字员，她究竟能做些什么来反对呢? 起诉她是巨大的资源浪费。她对这些暴行没有任何责任。

@user-gi3nj9wr9p
I agree. Its political theater to appease the population and other countries. "Hey look guys, we put the bad people away". In reality it was a young woman who couldn't feasibly do anything about the situation she was in.

我同意。它是安抚民众和其他国家的政治舞台。"嘿，伙计们，我们把坏人抓起来了"事实上，她当时就是一个年轻女子，她对自己所处的情况无能为力。

@zhufortheimpaler4041
she could have quit. she applied voluntarily for the job, stayed at the job as she witnessed/learned about the holocaust, thus she is at least guilty of complicity.
nothing about the holocaust was secret.
It was known down to the most remote province of germany what was going on.

她本可以辞职的。她自愿申请了这份工作，并在目睹/了解大屠杀时留在了这份工作，因此她至少犯有共谋罪。
关于大屠杀没有什么是秘密。
德国最偏远的省份都知道发生了什么事。

@user-gi3nj9wr9p
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 what have you done to end slavery in 2022? You are complicit, jail for you too

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 你为2022年结束奴隶制做了什么? 你是同谋，你也得坐牢。

@zhufortheimpaler4041
@@user-gi3nj9wr9p dont you think there is a difference between someone living in europe and someone working as chief secretary of a NS Concentration Camp on voluntary basis?
Im against slavery. I dont buy products from companies i know that employ slave or forced labor.
She voluntary applied for the job and was part of the camp command structure.
Even in a concentration/labour camp extermination by forced labor was the case.
She knew what was going on and could have quit.
she didnt quit.

@@user-gi3nj9wr9p 你不认为一个生活在欧洲的人和一个自愿在纳粹集中营担任首席秘书是有区别的吗?
我反对奴隶制。我不买那些雇佣奴隶或强迫劳工的公司的产品。
她自愿申请了这份工作，是营地指挥机构的一员。
即使在集中营/劳改营（用强迫劳动杀人）的情况属实。
她知道发生了什么，本来可以辞职的。
她没有辞职。

@zhufortheimpaler4041
@@user-gi3nj9wr9p sorry but that is not comparable

@@user-gi3nj9wr9p 抱歉，这是不可比较的。

@user-gi3nj9wr9p
@zhufortheimpaler4041 sorry, but it is. You could do more, just as you suggest she could have done more. Thetefor if she is guilty of complicity, then you are too.

@zhufortheimpaler4041 对不起，但都一样。你可以做得更多，就像你建议她做得更多一样。如果她是同谋，那你也是。

@zhufortheimpaler4041
@@user-gi3nj9wr9p well i am doing something.
she on the other hand worked in the camp where people were murdered.
thats quite a big difference

@@user-gi3nj9wr9p 我在做一些事情。另一方面，她在有人被谋杀的集中营工作。
这是相当大的区别。

@user-gi3nj9wr9p
@zhufortheimpaler4041 nope, you dont understand. You could do MORE. You accused her of not doing MORE. You and her are the same by YOUR standards. You are a hypocrite. Different rules for different people, according to you. You cut yourself a break but hold her to a higher standard.

@zhufortheimpaler4041 不，你不明白。你可以做得更多。你指责她做得不够多。按照你的标准，你和她是一样的。你是个伪君子。不同的人有不同的规矩，这取决于你。你给自己一个喘息的机会，但要让她达到更高的标准。

@ml7918
SHE COULD HAVE NOT VOLUNTEER

她本可以不自愿申请的。

@user-gi3nj9wr9p
@ml7918 and what did you do to fight salvery in 2022? That's what i thought, jail for you for not doing enough about it

@ml7918 你在2022年为反对奴隶制度做了什么? 我也是这么想的，因为你做得不够就把你关进监狱。

@user-iy1et2je4e
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 you forgot only one fact - she didn't live in a free Europe as you do

@@zhufortheimpaler4041 你只忘记了一个事实——她不像你那样生活在一个自由的欧洲。

@user-di5gg6mz9p
They should punish her by taking her insulin away for 2 weeks!

他们应该惩罚她，将她的胰岛素停用两周!

@staticsnow2285
That’s sick.

真恶心。

@user-fn8de4qp2s
This is a symbolic judgement. Important for our collective future. So that in the future, people will know that horrific crimes will be pursued no matter the age.

这是一个有象征意义的判决。对我们共同的未来很重要。这样在未来，人们就会知道，无论年龄大小，可怕的罪行都会被追究。
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@suportbghelp4938
Africa watch closely. :DDD

非洲密切关注。

@user-hc8vk2uk1h
Symbolic waste of tax payers money

这是在有象征意义的浪费纳税人的钱。

@NathanLoPresti5
Or next time, it will give them a good reason not to back down.

或者下一次，这将给他们一个不退缩的好理由。

@radioandtvmemories6178
Scraping the bottom of the historical barrel

刮历史的沉渣。