话题讨论：谁在幕后策划造德国的反？
Who's behind the plot to overthrow the german government | DW News
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话题讨论：谁在幕后策划推翻德国政府？
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In a nationwide raid, 25 suspected members and supporters of a terrorist organization were arrested early Wednesday. Officials said the network, part of a wider right-wing movement, was already well established with a concrete plan to overthrow the German state by force and install a new government.
星期三早上，在一次全国范围的突袭行动中，25名恐怖组织的成员和支持者被捕。官员们表示，这个网络是更广泛的右翼运动的一部分，已经建立起来，并有一个具体的计划，要用武力推翻德国政府，并建立一个新政府。
Prosecutors identified the suspected ringleaders only as Heinrich XIII P. R. and Ruediger v. P., in line with German privacy rules. The news magazine Der Spiegel reported that the former was a well-known 71-year-old member of a minor German noble family, while the latter was a 69-year-old former paratrooper.
根据德国的隐私规定，检察官只确认了涉嫌主谋的海因里希十三P. R和鲁迪格v. P.。德国《明镜周刊》报道说，前者是71岁的德国小贵族家族的知名成员，后者是69岁的前伞兵。
根据德国的隐私规定，检察官只确认了涉嫌主谋的海因里希十三P. R和鲁迪格v. P.。德国《明镜周刊》报道说，前者是71岁的德国小贵族家族的知名成员，后者是69岁的前伞兵。
According to prosecutors, Heinrich XIII P. R., who the group planned to install as the new leader of Germany, had made contact with Russian officials seeking to establish a new order in Germany once the Berlin government was overthrown. A Russian woman, Vitalia B, had allegedly given him help with this. The Russian embassy in Berlin denied having lixs to far-right terror groups.
据检察官称，该组织计划任命海因里希十三为德国新领导人，他曾与俄罗斯官员接触，寻求在柏林政府被推翻后在德国建立新秩序。据称，一位名叫维塔利亚·B的俄罗斯女子在这件事上给了他帮助。俄罗斯驻柏林大使馆否认与该极右翼恐怖组织有联系。
据检察官称，该组织计划任命海因里希十三为德国新领导人，他曾与俄罗斯官员接触，寻求在柏林政府被推翻后在德国建立新秩序。据称，一位名叫维塔利亚·B的俄罗斯女子在这件事上给了他帮助。俄罗斯驻柏林大使馆否认与该极右翼恐怖组织有联系。
A currently-serving soldier in the Bundeswehr's Special Forces Command (KSK) as well as several Bundeswehr reservists are also among suspects in the case, a spokesperson for Germany's Military Counterintelligence Service (MAD) told the DPA news agency. A search was reported to have been carried out at the soldier's home and his barracks office in the state of Baden-Württemberg.
德国军事反间谍局发言人告诉德新社，一名目前在联邦国防军特种部队司令部服役的士兵以及几名联邦国防军预备役人员也在这起案件的嫌疑人之列。据报道，在巴登-符腾堡州这名士兵的家和军营办公室进行了搜查。
德国军事反间谍局发言人告诉德新社，一名目前在联邦国防军特种部队司令部服役的士兵以及几名联邦国防军预备役人员也在这起案件的嫌疑人之列。据报道，在巴登-符腾堡州这名士兵的家和军营办公室进行了搜查。
The trigger for the raids was an investigation into another Reichsbürger group that had planned to kidnap German Health Minister Karl Lauterbach.
此次突袭的导火索是对另一个Reichsbürger组织的调查，该组织曾计划绑架德国卫生部长卡尔·劳特巴赫。
此次突袭的导火索是对另一个Reichsbürger组织的调查，该组织曾计划绑架德国卫生部长卡尔·劳特巴赫。
German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said the case revealed the threat posed by the Reichsbürger movement. The president of the German parliament's lower house, Bärbel Bas, said the operation shows "that our democratic constitutional state is attentive and capable of action."
德国内政部长南希·法泽尔表示，这起案件揭示了Reichsbürger运动构成的威胁。德国议会下院Bärbel Bas主席表示，这次行动表明“我们的民主宪政国家关注并有能力采取行动。”
德国内政部长南希·法泽尔表示，这起案件揭示了Reichsbürger运动构成的威胁。德国议会下院Bärbel Bas主席表示，这次行动表明“我们的民主宪政国家关注并有能力采取行动。”
The group had targeted members of the Bundeswehr and police for their wanted to win their goals. It had formed a "military arm" and a council presided over by Heinrich XIII P. R. To implement their plans the group's members were prepared to use military means and violence against state representatives and were willing to kill to achieve their goals.
该组织的目标是德国联邦国防军和警察的成员，因为他们想要实现自己的目标。它成立了一个“军事武装”和一个由海因里希十三世主持的委员会，为了实施他们的计划，该组织的成员准备使用军事手段和暴力对付国家代表，并愿意杀人来实现他们的目标。
该组织的目标是德国联邦国防军和警察的成员，因为他们想要实现自己的目标。它成立了一个“军事武装”和一个由海因里希十三世主持的委员会，为了实施他们的计划，该组织的成员准备使用军事手段和暴力对付国家代表，并愿意杀人来实现他们的目标。
According to the investigators, the members of the group "followed a conglomerate of conspiracy myths consisting of narratives of the so-called 'Reichsbürger' as well as QAnon ideology." The prosecutors added that the group's adherents believe Germany is ruled by a so-called "deep state," similar to baseless claims about the United States that were made by former President Donald Trump.
据调查人员称，该组织的成员“遵循了一系列阴谋神话，包括所谓的‘Reichsbürger’叙事和QAnon意识形态。”检察官补充说，该组织的信徒认为德国是由所谓的“深层势力”统治的，这与前总统唐纳德·特朗普对美国的毫无根据的说法类似。
据调查人员称，该组织的成员“遵循了一系列阴谋神话，包括所谓的‘Reichsbürger’叙事和QAnon意识形态。”检察官补充说，该组织的信徒认为德国是由所谓的“深层势力”统治的，这与前总统唐纳德·特朗普对美国的毫无根据的说法类似。
The Reichsbürger movement is made up of a number of small organizations and individuals, mainly in the states of Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania and Bavaria. They do not accept the legality of the Federal Republic of Germany or any of its government authorities. The movement argues that the German constitution prior to World War II was never properly nullified and that the formation of the former West Germany in 1949, and now reunified Germany, was therefore never valid.
Reichsbürger运动由一些小型组织和个人组成，主要分布在勃兰登堡州、梅克伦堡-西波美拉尼亚州和巴伐利亚州。他们不接受德意志联邦共和国或其任何政府当局的合法性。该运动认为，二战前的德国宪法从未被完全废除，因此1949年前西德的形成，以及现在统一的德国根本不正当。
Reichsbürger运动由一些小型组织和个人组成，主要分布在勃兰登堡州、梅克伦堡-西波美拉尼亚州和巴伐利亚州。他们不接受德意志联邦共和国或其任何政府当局的合法性。该运动认为，二战前的德国宪法从未被完全废除，因此1949年前西德的形成，以及现在统一的德国根本不正当。
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Unbelievable !
How could they just imagine they would manage this coup ?
难以置信!
他们怎么能想象自己能成功发动政变呢?
If someone can imagine himself being a real prince he can imagine a lot.
如果有人能想象自己是一个真正的王子，他就能想象很多。
There is no way for 25 (or even 2.5 million) people to seize the government of 80 million.
25人(甚至250万人)不可能夺取8000万人的政府。
@MetalFolkAndFun Well he actually was a real prince but this smells like False flag operation
@MetalFolkAndFun 好吧，他实际上是一个真正的王子，但这件事听起来像假冒行动。
@MetalFolkAndFun well he did have a whole network with people with the same ideas, creativity is important af.
@MetalFolkAndFun 他确实有一个和他有相同想法的人组成的网络，创造力是很重要的。
@nikolas.2732 He wasn't a real prince. Germany doesn't recognize any noble titles. He's allowed by law to include that ridiculous word as a part of his name but its not a recognized title.
@nikolas.2732 他不是真正的王子。德国不承认任何贵族头衔。法律允许他把这个可笑的词作为他名字的一部分，但这并不是一个公认的头衔。
No, it's not believable. Sth else is going on. Maybe they want to silence anti-war anti-EU protest. Cops lie.
不，这不可信。还有别的事情在发生。也许他们想让反战反欧盟的抗议噤声。警察在撒谎。
where is the democracy, This is just totalitarian.. Police state!!
皿煮在哪里，这就是极权主义。警察国家! !
@cboy0394 Do you believe that ex nobility became ordinary citizens just like that and they don't have any influence anymore?
@cboy0394 你相信出身贵族的人就这样变成了普通公民，而且他们不再有任何影响力了吗?
@nikolas.2732 They haven't held any power in centuries.
What "power" do you think they still hold?
And a "false flag"? Against who or what?
@nikolas.2732 他们已经几个世纪没有掌权了。
你认为他们还有什么“力量”?
以及“假冒”? 针对谁或什么?
@christopherg2347 not centuries, just century. 1918 wasn't that long ago.
@christopherg2347 不是几个世纪，只有一个世纪。1918年并不是很久以前。
Being a prince will have a very different meaning for this guy from now on.
从现在起，当王子对他来说将有非常不同的意义。
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Elaborate please?
解释一下？
@pf37rss No, please don't elaborate!
@pf37rss 不，别解释！
@pf37rss if i am not mistaken it hints towards being raped in prison by other men
@pf37rss 如果我没搞错，这是暗示在监狱里被人X奸。
He'll be weeping like a princess when he bends over in the shower
他在淋雨间弯腰的时候会像个公主一样哭唧唧。
No one is above the law they said..
他们说，没有人可以凌驾于法律之上。
Germany is soft in their punishments. He'll be released soon. Murderers are NEVER executed, often 8-10 years. This patriot likely will receive nothing.
德国的惩罚很温和。他很快就会被释放。杀人犯永远不会被处决，通常是8-10年。这位爱国者可能什么也得不到。
@derekdial2850 Well he exposed the rothchild family that clearly owns england and their monetary system..
@derekdial2850 他揭露了罗斯柴尔德家族，后者显然掌握着英格兰及其货币体系。
hand-soap picker in jail
监狱里的拾皂人。
Here, Prince, Prince, Prince...
来来来，王子，王子，王子……
I can guess that bloody Russian money (peaceful support from the Putin) was here involved too.
我猜俄罗斯的臭钱(来自普京的和平支持)也牵涉其中。
QAnon = Russia
They use identical techniques in other countries
QAnon = 俄罗斯
他们在其他国家使用同样的技术。
Soap and jail dadies
肥皂和监狱爸爸。
This decade really has the feel of the 20s, you know what I mean
这十年真的有20年代的感觉，你懂我的意思。
Aha...and so surreal too!!!we as humans are really accursed and history WE SHALL REPEAT AGAIN!!
啊哈……也太超现实了!! 我们人类真的被诅咒了，历史将会重演!!
i do watch a lot of electro swing
我确实看了很多电子摇摆舞。
A Putsch! Seriously, keep a close eye on this Hohenzollern wannabe and watch for any books he's writing while in jail.
政变! 说真的，请密切关注这个想要成为霍亨索伦的人，留意他在监狱里写的任何书。
@kinngrimm2212 GROSS
@kinngrimm2212 恶心。
If German elections were free and fair, then why would this happen??
如果德国的选举又自由又公正，为什么会发生这种事?
It's starting to annoy me bc my grandchildrens future looks more bleak than I could have imagined.
我开始烦恼，因为我孙子的未来看起来比我想象的更暗淡。
Oh please. The Weimar Republic was far, far worse. I'd take the 1930s over 2022 in a heartbeat. At least Germany had a spine then.
哦，得了吧。魏玛共和国要糟糕得多。我会毫不犹豫地把20世纪30年代和2022年相提并论。至少当时德国还有骨气。
@derekdial2850 exactly, people take things way out if proportion. This was as close to beeing an actual coup, as a chicken is to beeing a t-rex.
This is not even as strong an attempt to overthrow the goverment as the RAF and they were MILES away.
@derekdial2850 没错，人们把事情看得太过了。这件事跟真正的政变之间的差别，就像鸡和霸王龙的差别一样大。
同为推翻政府的企图，这件事根本没有英国皇家空军那次强，而且差得远。
This time it will be Americas Rise to Fascism
这一次是美国走向法西斯主义。
@jaridkeen123 And why that's a good thing
@jaridkeen123 以及为什么这是件好事。
@jaridkeen123 why do you sound hopeful?
@jaridkeen123 为什么你听起来满怀希望?
@jaridkeen123 i think you understimate the strength of american institutions.
@jaridkeen123 我认为你低估了美国制度的力量。
History doesn't repeat but rhymes.
历史不会重复，但是会押韵。
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@jaridkeen123 no, we won't allow it.
@jaridkeen123 不，我们不会允许。
@jaridkeen123
Since America is moving ever leftward, I don't doubt you will be disappointed. ☺️
@jaridkeen123 既然美国一直在左倾，我不怀疑你会失望。
but like if people in the 1920's had a little more brain
但1920年代的人们好像多了点脑子。
Oh, yes... Here in America, too.
哦，是的……我们美国也是。
It is the 20's.
现在就是20年代。
Who in his right mind believes for a second that these people could "save the country" or lead it at all?
有哪个头脑正常的人会相信这些人能“拯救国家”或领导国家?
They're not people in their right mind, they're desperate people who are fearful of uncertainty and the future. Instill fud, then sell a comforting lie of security.
他们不是头脑正常的人，他们是绝望的人，害怕不确定性和未来。因循守旧，然后兜售一个安慰人的安全谎言。
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Coup? Does anyone believe my bots yelling about the 'coup' that we never saw? It's an attack on opposition. Nothing more.
政变吗? 有人相信吗？那些水军大喊“政变”，而我们却从未见过? 这是对反对派的攻击。仅此而已。
Pretty much all far right extremists are of this low quality. Sadly they still manage to find some support.
几乎所有的极右翼极端分子的素质都是这么低。可悲的是，他们仍然能获得一些支持。
They are brave people who are fighting for freedom and democracy !!!! But brutally oppressed by the cruel regime
他们是为自由和民主而战的勇敢者!!!! 但被残酷的政权残酷的压迫了。
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Donald Trump & the GOP
唐川普和共和党。
@chasseausanglier3390 Like freedom Russia can provide?
@chasseausanglier3390 就像俄罗斯可以提供的那种自由？
@chasseausanglier3390 lol our cruel regime... best joke in 2022...
@chasseausanglier3390 呵呵，我们残酷的政权……2022年最好的笑话……
@chasseausanglier3390 well you’re crazy
@chasseausanglier3390 你疯了。
Especially since the country has already been saved and is like a major economic success today. Gosh darn those spoilt brats tryna drag it down with their 1900s idealogies.
特别是因为这个国家已经得到拯救，而且今天在经济上取得了重大成功。该死的，那些被宠坏的孩子试图用他们20世纪的意识形态拖它的后腿。
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You can’t use logic with crazy people.
不能跟疯子讲逻辑。
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The only thing needed for evil to triumph, is for good people to do nothing. - E. Burke
邪恶之所以取得胜利，是因为善良之人无所作为。——E. Burke
Nobody would have accepted them as kings or gods or whatever they thought they are. This is what would have happened. As soon as they went through the metal detector flashing guns they would have got shot.
没有人会接受他们为王，或神，或他们自认为的任何东西。只会发生这种事情。只要他们通过金属探测器，他们就会被突突。
People have been doing nothing for too long.
人们已经无所作为太久了。
last time germany did something they caused ww2 careful what you wish for
上次德国做了一些事，导致了二战，小心你的愿望。
Israel isn’t saint
以色列并不神圣。
Seen that before
这集我看过。
and so the good people planned a hit on the evil guys and suceeded... That was a good day.
于是，好人策划了一场针对坏人的袭击，并成功了……这是美好的一天。
now just don't let that prince write any books while in prison
别让那个王子在监狱里写任何书。
XD XD XD XD
嘻嘻嘻。
that female judge will write a book in prison with the name "Meine Kampflesbe"
那个女法官会在监狱里写一本书，名为《我的奋斗》。
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yea restrict free speech... smart... no way you are the bad guy...
是的，这是限制言论自由……聪明……你不可能是坏人……
Next year or the year after, the corresponding Netflix True Crime documentary will surely be released.
明年或后年，Netflix将推出相应的《真实犯罪》纪录片。
@wwv he can talk all he wants, but that doesn't mean they'll let em be published ;P
@wwv 他想说什么就说什么，但这并不意味着他们会允许其出版。
@wwv Wow. You need a very sick mind, to:
a) Take this joke seriously
b) Actually defend the writing of "Mein Kampf".
@wwv 哇。你需要一个非常病态的头脑，才能:
a)把这个笑话当真；
b)真正为《我的奋斗》的写作辩护。
@christopherg2347 defending free speech. all speech. banning any speech gives you the right to ban all speech you uneducated buffoon... read a history book. especially about germany...
@christopherg2347 捍卫言论自由。所有言论。禁止任何言论，将让你有权禁止所有言论，你这个没受过教育的小丑……读本历史书吧。尤其是德国的……
Never a dull moment
毫无尿点。
It's never dull when there's an attack on opposition.
对反对派的攻击从来都不无聊。
请注意，那些水军在支持镇压反对派时是多么活跃!
True there's something new every day and it's never good news
的确，每天都有新消息，从来都不是好消息。
actually Germany CAN be pretty dull, you know ? Except in 1938. Or during the Oktober Fest. And maybe now.
其实德国人挺无趣的，你知道吗? 1938年除外。或者十月节期间。也许现在也是。
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." And the Germans weren't caught napping.
"自由的代价是永远保持警惕。"德国人并打盹。
again ! Wake Up its not 1930!
又来! 醒醒吧，现在不是1930年!
Don't know if this is all true or method of shutdown the other party. Seems a lot like how Russian always took out there opposition. I would love to know the facts before jumping do any conclusion or assuming anything. Granted the legal system doesn't bury the information in lawsuits not to be released.
不知道这是真的，还是封杀其他党派的方法。看起来很像俄罗斯人对付反对派的做法。在做出任何结论或假设之前，我想知道事实。假设法律体系不会把这些信息埋在不公开的诉讼中。
They aren't allowed.
他们不被允许。
@MrGsxrme Even when you have problem with ur erection ? Blame it to Russia
@MrGsxrme 即便当你丁丁无力？也怪俄罗斯。
Democracy is a joke
民主就是个笑话。
@MrGsxrme Russia handles opposition with less talk and more polonium if I recall correctly
@MrGsxrme 如果我没记错的话，俄罗斯对付反对派时狠话不多，钚药管够。
@MrGsxrme it really is a fair and democratic police operation.
@MrGsxrme 这确实是一次公平民主的警察行动。
这些恐怖分子就像入侵美国国会的 (QAnon) 人一样。
他们人数很少，但想法非常粗糙:
——现在的德国不是一个主权国家，而是一个由盟国拥有的公司/GmbH(类似于有限公司)。
——因此，定期民主选举形成的德国政府是不合法的，必须被推翻。
——他们完全否认德国的“基本法”，相当于德国的宪法、法律和总体行政力量。
——他们的想法是，德国最后的合法法律和宪法是凯撒帝国，1918年结束，为民主让路。因此才有了“Reichsbürger”(德意志人民)的名字。
——其他人可能会认为最后有效的法律/宪法是第三帝国38年或45年的法律。
——我不指望这个团体就德国适用哪部具体法律/宪法达成共识。
此外，另类选择党(比如被捕的那个女人)和其他极右翼人士是俄罗斯的超级粉丝，还推崇普京处理反对派和LGBTQ人群的方式。
所以这更像是德国警察阻止了具有普京精神的人推翻合法政府。
来自德国的问候。
Germany has a zero tolerance policy in regards to fascists. Shame the rest of the world does not feel the same.
德国对法西斯分子采取零容忍政策。真遗憾，世界上其他地方没有这样的感觉。
@MrGsxrme Wow. the "Reichsbüger" are something like sovereign citizens in the US. They want to demolish democracy and install their aristocrats. Nothing to do with "Enemies of the leadership"
@MrGsxrme 哇。“Reichsbüger”在某种程度上类似于美国的主权公民。他们想摧毁民主，扶植他们的贵族。与“领导的敌人”无关。
I did say , around the time that Zelensky was removing a bunch of officials in high places from Ukraine Courts and secret services, that the rest of EU should be looking in to their own countries for Kremlin backed infiltrators.
我确实说过，在泽连斯基从乌克兰法院和秘密机构撤换一群高层官员的时候，欧盟其他国家应该在自己的国家找出支持克里姆林宫的渗透者。
到目前为止，很高兴看到至少有一些人在揭露这些罪犯方面取得了一些成功。
where is the democracy, This is just totalitarian.. Police state!!
民主在哪里？这就是极权主义……警察国家！
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@omeyehead7436 I enjoy watching bots accusing you of being a bot. Lol
@omeyehead7436 我很喜欢看水军指责别人是水军，哈哈。
@falsch4761 lol organizing a coup is not an expression of democracy xD only russian trolls could believe that it is xD
@falsch4761 哈哈，组织政变不是民主的表现，只有俄罗斯喷子才会相信这是民主。
@omeyehead7436
You literally described Russia:/
Ru deserves the w0rst human!ty can give them.
@omeyehead7436
你实际上在描述俄罗斯。
俄罗斯人面临最恶劣的人道主义，他们活该。
@emmap1159 ruzzian puppet detected
@emmap1159 发现俄罗斯傀儡。
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@josesaavedra6106 uKKKrainian bot detected.
@josesaavedra6106 发现鸟克兰水军。
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These were right wing extremists no connection to russia I'd say as they are fighting them in Ukraine sounds like a gov plot to me to either deflect from the economic crisis or to rally the people behind the gov nothings surprises me the lenght govs go to cling to power
这些都是右翼极端分子，与俄罗斯没有任何联系，我想说，因为他们在乌克兰与后者作战，这件事听起来像是政府的阴谋，要么是为了转移人们对经济危机的注意力，要么为了团结政府背后的人，现政府为了把持权力，做什么我都不会惊讶。
Good work German police!! //Love from Sweden
德国警察干得好！！来自瑞典的爱。
Yeah Sweden has to learn. Look at them with SD ruling them with Ulf as a lapdog.
是的，瑞典必须学习。看看他们，SD统治着他们，Ulf是个走狗。
The Shultz Staffel thanks you Swede Bot .
舒尔茨谢谢你八辈祖宗，你个瑞典水军。
@davidnoelfranks1124 The what? You really should get back to your remedial English class.
@davidnoelfranks1124 什么? 你真该回去上你的英语补习班了。
@davidnoelfranks1124 long live brave german people fighting for democracy
@davidnoelfranks1124 为民主而战的勇敢的德国人民万岁。
@edricaldones9639 his German is as bad since thats how it is spelled but he is an admirer of a certain politician from Austria who started the WW2
@edricaldones9639 他的德语很糟糕，因为德语是这么拼的，但他是某个奥地利政治家的崇拜者，这个政治家引发了二战。
Swedish Heinrich Himmler
海因里希·希姆莱是瑞典人。
Sweden, the nation who recently elected the far right party
瑞典，这个国家最近选出了极右翼政党。
@julianpetkov8320 There is no British Master outside your imagination.
@julianpetkov8320 英国主子不存在的，除了你的想象。
@janradtke8318 You think "the Americans" rule the world, do you? They are just a colony. Every new American Presidents goes to visit the Empress of England (now soon to be Emperor Charles) to swear his allegiances in private.
@janradtke8318 你认为“美国人”统治着世界，是吗? 他们只是一个殖民地。每一位新上任的美国总统都会去拜访英国女皇(现在很快就是查尔斯皇帝了)，并私下宣誓效忠。
We feel safer this way for all but watching the films there, about the court after WWII, it was like chilling and thought the Western countries are scary to leave those kind of souls which could do so harm
我们觉得这样更安全，但是看完二战后法庭的电影时，我感觉不寒而栗，我认为西方国家留下了那种可能造成如此伤害的家伙，真是可怕。
This is so bizarre, how could they actually believed their plan would’ve worked. So odd.
太奇怪了，他们怎么能相信他们的计划会成功。太奇怪了。
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Because it’s Germany and there is actually quite a bit of pro Russian and Anti western sentiment there. Like people think Trump was pro Russia, meanwhile Germany was literally increasing its economic ties to Russia and was critical of Russia sanctions. Their mainstream attitude towards Russia only changed this year.
因为这是德国，那里实际上有相当大的亲俄和反西方情绪。就像人们认为特朗普亲俄罗斯一样，与此同时，德国实际上正在加强与俄罗斯的经济联系，并批评对俄罗斯的制裁。他们对俄罗斯的主流态度今年才有所改变。
This would have just been the start - it has happened before!
这只是个开始——以前也发生过!
I can't believe that the German people, or the rest of the EU, would simply tolerate such a thing and act like it was no big deal. They'd be removed one way or another, very quickly.
我无法相信德国人民或欧盟其他国家会容忍这样的事情，并表现得好像这没什么大不了的。不管怎样，他们都会很快被消灭掉。
joshua Milnes - They believed their plan would have worked because germans are currently pissed off with their government and the misery they are subjected to.
他们相信他们的计划会成功，是因为德国人目前对他们的政府和他们所遭受的苦难感到愤怒。
@user-bc9us9bp7c "They believed their plan would have worked because germans are currently pissed off with their government and the misery they are subjected to." What misery? There is a war going on in Europe that inflicted a global energy crisis. And high inflation is also a global problem. You know what global means? It means that these problems are not Germany specific. So, what are you talking about?
@user-bc9us9bp7c “他们相信他们的计划会成功，因为德国人目前对他们的政府和他们所遭受的苦难感到愤怒。”什么痛苦?欧洲正在进行一场战争，这场战争造成了全球能源危机。高通胀也是一个全球性问题。你知道全球是什么意思吗? 这意味着这些问题并非德国独有。你在说什么?
@harrydehnhardt5092 I'm not sure where you've been over the last year and a half. The energy crisis is not the result of the war. It is clearly the result of the sanctions against Russia and Nato's destruction of the gas pipeline as well as the US's shutting down oil production in the US and shutting down the canadian oil pipelines. Inflation skyrocketed when the US started printing dollars to support the war in Ukraine (The printers haven't stopped yet) .In case you think that printing US dollars affects only the US, please note that all countries on this planet pay for their energy in US dollars that have been diluted. Every dollar that is printed in the US is supported by global finances as a result of the "petrodollar".
@harrydehnhardt5092 我不知道你这一年半都去哪了。能源危机不是这场战争的结果。这显然是制裁俄罗斯、北约破坏天然气管道，以及美国关闭美国石油生产和关闭加拿大石油管道的结果。当美国开始印美元来支持乌克兰战争时，通货膨胀出现飙升(印刷机依然没有停止)。如果你认为印美元只会影响美国，请注意，这个星球上的所有国家都用稀释了的美元来支付他们的能源。由于“石油美元”，美国印制的每一美元都得到了全球金融的支持。
德国(尽管一开始不情愿)加入了欧盟、美国、英国和加拿大的行列，对俄罗斯实施制裁，而这实际上适得其反，损害了欧盟。德国的工业基础正因能源匮乏而遭到破坏，寒冷的冬天即将来临。美国现在已经实现了奴役欧洲的目标，并以德国过去四倍的价格向德国出售天然气。
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最重要的是，看看2014年的乌克兰政治和明斯克协议，你会发现是谁引发了乌克兰战争。
@SuperNia88 under a really weak german government right now germany is protected by nato plus a much stronger republic
@SuperNia88 在一个非常软弱的德国政府的领导下，德国现在受到北约和一个更强大的共和国的保护。
@FiroTheFigter It doesn't matter what protections you think you have, things can change. Don't take it for granted
@FiroTheFigter 你认为你有什么保护并不重要，情况是会改变的。不要认为这是理所当然的。
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@SuperNia88 ill join the resistrance group if my government falls. until that happens i have no reason to be worried
@SuperNia88 如果我国政府倒台，我将加入抵抗组织。在那之前，我没有理由担心。
He'll probably write a book while in jail about his struggle
他可能会在监狱里写一本书，讲述他的奋斗经历。
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Hopefully, it won't become a bestseller.
希望它不会成为畅销书。
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@eddietat95 with the current situation in the country of Germany, the rise of Islamophobia, antisemitism, and oil prices, increase of immigrants and failing satisfaction towards their own army, it wouldn't be far in having that situation from happening.
@eddietat95 鉴于德国目前的局势，伊斯兰恐惧症、反犹主义和油价的上升，移民的增加和对本国军队的不满意，这种情况离发生不会太远。