欧洲种族主义最严重的国家是哪个?
Which is the most racist country in Europe?
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Nalaka Gunasinghe:我想到了德国，我和其他游客一样在欧洲旅行，花了同样的钱。但在公共汽车和火车站，一些警察会来收我们的护照，并进行检查，而与此同时，其他白人可以自由离开。
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Which is the most racist country in Europe?
欧洲种族主义最严重的国家是哪个?
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I am from Austria and I'm voting for Austria. I grew up in Graz. I have an Indian mother and an Austrian father and that's why i look a little darker than white. What do most Austrians think when they see me? That I'm an immigrant, a foreigner. I have been in many situations where people would start to whistle at me or whisper something like “Scheiss Ausl?nder…” (shitty foreigner). One time, a bus driver didn't want to take my money and he checked if it was fake (!) Another time a bartender didn't want to change my money because I'm not white. I have a friend from Graz and he is a white man, with black hair and black eyes and people think that he's a foreigner. The list goes on and on and on. I know that there is racism everywhere in the world. But I'm still voting for Austria.
我来自奥地利，我投票给奥地利。我在格拉茨长大。我的母亲是印度人，父亲是奥地利人，这就是为什么我看起来比白人黑一点。大多数奥地利人看到我的时候会怎么想?我是一个移民，一个外国人。我遇到过很多情况，人们开始对我吹口哨，或者低声说一些类似于“Scheiss Ausl?”Nder……”(讨厌的外国人)。有一次，一个公共汽车司机不想要我的钱，他检查看我的钱是不是假的。还有一次，一个酒保不想给我换钱，因为我不是白人。我有一个朋友来自格拉茨，他是白人，黑头发和黑眼睛，人们认为他是外国人。这样的例子不胜枚举。我知道世界上到处都有种族主义。但我仍然投票给奥地利。
I went to Cologne in Germany and with six other persons of Asian decent and we stopped the bus and started boarding. As we started the drives looked at us g contemptuously and as the last person to board entered the bus (who was pregnant) could sit he moved off the bus stop by releasing the clutch harshly and she fell!
He showed no concern or compassion as pretended not to speak English!
We were in Germany for three days only and I would never return to that country because there is nothing to offer there except arrogance and hostility! Most think we are thieves and savages in my opinion!
我和其他六名亚洲人一起去了德国科隆，我们拦下车开始上车。当我们开始上车时，司机们轻蔑地看着我们，当最后一个上车的人(她怀孕了)要坐下时，他猛地松开了离合器，离开了车站，她摔倒了!
他既不表示关心也不表示同情，假装不会说英语!
我们在德国只呆了三天，我再也不会回到那个国家了，因为那里除了傲慢和敌意什么都没有!在我看来，大多数人都认为我们是小偷和野蛮人!
What really interests me is that the very same people, in US all of a sudden become so cordial towards minorities.
真正让我感兴趣的是，在美国，这些人突然对少数族裔变得如此友好。
Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong or Singapore are prosperous and have high levels of education and they are still wary of foreigners.
Conflating tolerance and those factors is quite naive.
日本、韩国、台湾、香港或新加坡都很繁荣，教育水平也很高，但他们仍然对外国人保持警惕。
把耐受性和这些因素混为一谈是很天真的。
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In my opinion and from my experience Romania, Poland and other East European countries are very racist…
在我看来，从我的经验来看，罗马尼亚、波兰和其他东欧国家是非常种族主义的…
If you’re from Austria how come your English is so good?
如果你来自奥地利，你的英语怎么这么好?
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Haha, thank you! That's because my teacher was very good!
哈哈，谢谢!那是因为我的老师非常优秀!
I have never met an Austrian person in person. However the Germans I have known all spoke perfect English. Even better than some of our native born Americans. And I don’t mean American Indians.
我从未见过奥地利人。然而，我所认识的德国人都能说一口流利的英语。甚至比一些土生土长的美国人还好。我不是指美国印第安人。
almost everbody speaks good english in Europe
在欧洲，几乎每个人的英语都说得很好
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You’re probably right about that. My hat is off to the Europeans who learn to speak English even though it is not their native language.
你可能是对的。我向那些学习说英语的欧洲人脱帽致敬，尽管英语不是他们的母语。
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You are not austrian.
你不是奥地利人。
This is an interesting question. I am Jewish-Italian-English and grew up near London.I have lived in Italy, England and Portugal (over 2 years in each) and have visited a fair amount of Europe. From my experiences Eastern Europe and at times Southern Europe is more racist to black people. However don't think the situations of Europe of Northern Europe are happy clappy. As some one with an Italian mother and semi-Jewish father I experienced people telling me to go back to my own country, people on the street calling me a dog/animal and people telling me that Italy is cheap. I can't even imagine how much worse this would have been for a pole or someone from Eastern Europe. One time my mum and I were talking in Italian in a shop and the manager came up to us to tell us that when you are in England you speak English . Truth be hold people in England and much of Northern Europe don't think of this sort of behaviour as being racist .
这是一个有趣的问题。我是犹太-意大利-英国混血，在伦敦附近长大。我在意大利、英国和葡萄牙生活过(每个国家都超过2年)，去过欧洲的很多地方。根据我的经验，东欧和南欧有时对黑人更为种族歧视。不过，不要认为北欧的情况是令人高兴的。作为一个母亲是意大利人，父亲是半犹太人的人，我经历过有人叫我滚回自己的国家，有人在街上叫我狗/畜生，有人告诉我意大利很讨厌。我甚至无法想象这对一个波兰人或东欧人来说会有多糟糕。有一次，我妈妈和我在一家商店里用意大利语交谈，经理走过来告诉我们，在英国你们就说英语。事实上，在英格兰和北欧大部分地区，人们并不认为这种行为是种族主义。
I would like to react to the fact that several answers here state that Czech Republic is the most racist country based on some surveys.
Firstly, CZR is cca 99,5 % white. The remaining 0,5 % are Gypsies and Vietnamese. Meeting a black person is a rare occasion, even in Prague, where I live. So if you are asking people “how do you feel about having a black neighbour” you can′t be surprised about the answer. People fear what They do not know. I wonder how different the answer would be if the question was “how do you fell about having a Vietnamese neighbour”. I am almost 100 % sure the result would be much less racist.
我想对以下事实做出回应:根据一些调查，这里的一些答案称捷克共和国是最具种族主义色彩的国家。
首先，捷克共和国里99.5%的人是白人。剩下的0.5%是吉普赛人和越南人。即使在我居住的布拉格，见到黑人也是罕见的。因此，如果你问人们“你对有一个黑人邻居有什么感觉”，你不会对答案感到惊讶。人们害怕他们不知道的东西。我想知道，如果问题是“你对有一个越南邻居有何感想”，答案会有多大不同。我几乎百分之百地肯定，结果将大大减少种族主义。
也就是说，基于经验和其他论点，你仍然可以提出一个非常令人信服的关于捷克共和国种族主义的案例。我只是说，根据有缺陷的调查得出这样的结论是一堆废话。种族主义无处不在，比较哪里更糟糕不是一件容易的事情。一个因素可能是种族暴力——这在这里非常罕见，捷克共和国是世界上第七最安全的国家。所以如果你是外国人，你不必害怕来到这里…
I just came back from Slovakia. I traveled with a black lady, we also went to Russia and Kazakhstan together. I would say that we didn’t notice any racism towards her, not in Slovakia, Russia, Kazakhstan, Hungary, etc. . We also noticed that the Vietnamese community is well integrated. Now as to gypsies… a lot of crude racism noticeable everywhere. These people still live in incredibly poor conditions(we visited Lunik 9 in Kosice, it looks worse than many parts of Africa), even though they live in Slovakia for over 500 years. I think when you read such statistics and studies you should keep this in mind. The racism in Central Europe and the Balkans is almost exclusively directed against gypsies. I noticed a tiny bit of antisemitism as well, but nothing overwhelming.
我刚从斯洛伐克回来。我和一位黑人女士一起旅行，我们还一起去了俄罗斯和哈萨克斯坦。我想说的是，我们没有注意到任何针对她的种族主义，在斯洛伐克、俄罗斯、哈萨克斯坦和匈牙利等国都没有。我们还注意到越南裔社区很好地融入了社会。至于吉普赛人，到处都是赤裸裸的种族主义。尽管这些人在斯洛伐克生活了500多年，但他们的生活条件仍然非常恶劣(我们参观了科希策的Lunik 9定居点，看起来比非洲很多地方都要糟糕)。我认为当你阅读这些统计数据和研究时，你应该记住这一点。中欧和巴尔干半岛的种族主义几乎完全针对吉普赛人。我也注意到一点反犹主义，但没有太大的影响。
I live in Belgium, we also have problems with certain communities. (and we also have Slovakian gypsies who recently migrated here) I wouldn’t call the Western European multicultural project successful. The evidence is that for example in Belgium according to the most recent polls 1 third would vote for an openly racist party. So I think we are not in a position to give lessons to countries like Slovakia.
我住在比利时，我们的某些社区也有问题。(我们也有最近移民到这里的斯洛伐克吉普赛人)我不认为西欧的多元文化项目是成功的。证据是，例如在比利时，根据最近的民意调查，1 / 3的人会投票给一个公开的种族主义政党。所以我认为我们不能给斯洛伐克这样的国家上一课。
我认为社区尽了最大努力为他们提供工作和住房。(这被他们毁了)，它没有成功。然而，在俄罗斯或哈萨克斯坦这样的国家，吉普赛人确实成功了，他们很好地融入了社会，他们的社会地位高于平均水平。除了他们的深色皮肤，你根本认无法把他们跟俄罗斯族人区分开。也许这是由于斯大林在30年代和50年代的极端严厉的政策，无论如何，这在21世纪是不可能重复的。我不知道答案。
最后，我认为中欧的相互仇恨和偏见需要减少。也许争取种族平衡，把吉普赛人分散到其他社区是个解决办法。我知道这在荷兰真的很有帮助。另一件事是，由于我看起来像俄罗斯人，说俄语(如果没有人会说英语或德语，有时俄语是唯一的语言)，我也遇到了一些偏见。科希策旅馆的女士公开告诉我，她不接受乌克兰客人。(“他们像吉普赛人一样邋遢”)。
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There is lack of Colleges in Slovakia and education for people over 26years old is not free. Another problem is that there is not much of social housing in Slovakia. This country is far away from being a great or even a good country. In Slovakia you are either poor or rich as middle class is disappearing.
斯洛伐克缺乏大学，26岁以上的人接受的教育不是免费的。另一个问题是斯洛伐克的社会住房不多。这个国家离伟大甚至好国家还很远。在斯洛伐克，你要么是穷人，要么是富人，中产阶级正在消失。
吉普赛人妇女在很年轻的时候生孩子，大多数情况下她们在30岁左右，平均有7个孩子。在大多数情况下，他们没有受过教育(其中许多人甚至没有读完中学或小学)。
我认为他们中的许多人都可以找到一份手艺方面的工作。你不能对他们有太多期望，因为他们没有很多东西来改善他们的生活(课程，教育等)。
唯一的解决办法是为他们提供正确的教育，使他们能够学习有用的技能，使他们能够找到工作。这首先应该是国家的责任。
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Some of them are musical virtuosos and live in luxury. But not everyone can be a musical virtuoso. It would be best if most of them at least learned the craft (I've already seen a gypsy car serviceman, and it's already a prestigious, highly skilled and well-paid job). Many of them work as diggers. If the poorest qualified for masons and built houses for their own money and with their own hands, they would not devastate them. But they would have to want that and have an example to follow to believe it is possible.
他们中的一些人是音乐大师，生活奢侈。但并不是每个人都能成为音乐大师。如果他们中的大多数人至少学会了这门手艺就更好了(我已经见过一个吉普赛人的汽车维修工，这已经是一个声望很高、技术含量很高、收入也不错的工作了)。他们中的许多人是矿工。如果最贫穷的人有资格成为泥瓦匠，用自己的钱和自己的手建造房屋，他们就不会摧毁这些房屋。但他们必须想要这样做，并有一个效仿的榜样，才会相信这是可能的。
I thing Germany, I was traveling in Europe like any other tourist paying same amount . But in buses, train stations , some police come and collect our passport and check whist other white people are left free. Because I am brown, When they come to Sri Lanka were well treated. Very bad.
我想到了德国，我和其他游客一样在欧洲旅行，花了同样的钱。但在公共汽车和火车站，一些警察会来收我们的护照，并进行检查，而与此同时，其他白人可以自由离开。因为我是棕色人种，而当他们来斯里兰卡的时候受到了很好的待遇。这非常糟糕。
I am totally confused at the question. America, Canada, Australia, Europe are all expected NOT to be racist. They are expected to accommodate who are arriving as economic immigrants and provide them housing, jobs, medicare, and every other facility. All these host countries must share the fruits of their centuries of labour with those who have just landed and even if there is a murnur it is considered RACIST. Very strange definition. It is like a hungry lion hunts and the prey is stolen by hyenas. But hyenas are good and the lion is bad.
这个问题把我弄糊涂了。美国、加拿大、澳大利亚和欧洲都不应该是种族主义者。他们要为经济移民提供住宿，为他们提供住房、工作、医疗保险和其他各种设施。所有这些东道国都必须与刚刚到达这里的人分享他们几个世纪的劳动成果，即使有怨言，也会被认为是种族主义。非常奇怪的定义。这就像一只饥饿的狮子在捕猎，而猎物被鬣狗偷走了。但鬣狗是善良的，狮子是邪恶的。
让我们看看另一面。中东是地球上最富饶的地理位置。除了阿拉伯人，即使你在那里生活了50年，对他们的经济、科学、教育、技术做出了最大贡献，你能获得永久居留权或公民身份吗?这是种族歧视吗，或者对此你有什么特别的词来形容吗?中国和日本呢?种族主义只适用于一部分人。宽容只能由一群人来实行。如果你不愿意与新来者分享辛勤劳动的成果，剥夺自己的孩子，这就是种族主义。欧洲的伊斯兰移民已经建立了禁入区，但这是可以接受的。质疑这一点或试图消除这一点就是不宽容和种族主义的。
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我指的不是美国的黑人。他们在美国生活的时间比大多数美国白人都长。他们是美国不可分割的一部分，发生在乔治·弗洛伊德身上的事是不可原谅和不可接受的。我的观点与欧洲有关。我们不能给他们贴上种族歧视的标签。他们在几个世纪里建立了自己的国家，他们有权利以自己喜欢的方式生活。没有人能质疑他们。
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