网友讨论：日本衰落的整个故事
Japanese Decline: The Full Story
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网友：我曾在日本工作过五年，我发现日本企业不愿意冒险或尝试新的事物。日本一些企业依然在某些行业内占据主导地位（如索尼在相机技术上处于领先地位）。但大部分企业不愿意尝试外国的理念......
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网友讨论：日本衰落的整个故事
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I worked in Japan for 5 years, companies are not willing to take risk or try something new. Some companies still dominate some industries ( Sony is Lead in camera technology). Most companies are unwilling to try foreign ideas
There is little to almost no startup culture in Japan...without that there will not be much innovation
我曾在日本工作过五年，我发现日本企业不愿意冒险或尝试新的事物。日本一些企业依然在某些行业内占据主导地位（如索尼在相机技术上处于领先地位）。但大部分企业不愿意尝试外国的理念
日本几乎没有创业文化。没有创业文化，日本就无法出现大量的创新。
Speaking as someone living in Japan, they are willing to try foreign ideas after they are successful, which ensures they are always at least one development cycle behind.
作为一个在日本生活的人，我认为日本总是在外国理念获得了成功后才愿意进行尝试，这导致他们在研发上总是至少落后一个周期
True.Industry that forgets the start-up spirit is sure to decline. Japan today (especially the IT industry) is like an American comic book industry that ignores customer needs and indulges in self-satisfaction.
说的没错，忘记了创业精神的企业必然会走向衰落。今天的日本（尤其是信息技术行业）就像美国的漫画产业一样，无视顾客的需求，沉溺在自我满足之中。
I think japan has too much conservatism in Business, and that's not okay in today's world.
我认为日本在商业上过于保守了，这在现在这样的世界是不行的
@Techy Intelo Europe be the same way.
欧洲也很保守
Like you said, most Japanese hate making risky bets now days.
Due to this Japan lacks the enterprenur spirit!
Less young enterprenurs = less innovative companies = less economic growth!
Most of their population is not only aged but also consists of pure working middle class. Population and it's economy will decline if Japan doesn't make a radical switch like they did before...
正如你所说，现在大部分日本人都讨厌冒险
因此日本缺少企业家精神
年轻企业家减少=创新企业数量减少=经济增长速度下滑
日本大部分人口不仅都是老年人，而且他们都是纯粹的工薪中产阶级。如果日本不像过去那样进行彻底的转型，那么人口和经济将会一路下滑。
I've worked with some Japanese companies and their IT capabilities were stuck in the 90's at best.
我曾经和一些日本企业合作过，他们在信息技术方面的能力最多只有90年代的水平
Came to Japan in 1975 fresh out of college from the U.S. and found a great job with a large electronics firm. But by 1985, I was already convinced that this country was headed for a colossal crash. I became disgusted with how closed minded the Japanese are to new ideas. The reason for this is employees are guaranteed lifetime employment. There is zero incentive to change. Same thing is happening to China now — only worse.
1975年刚从美国大学毕业我就来到了日本，并在一家大型电子公司找到了一份很好的工作。但到了1985年我已经确信这个国家已经走向了巨大的崩溃之中。日本人对新思想的封闭让我感到厌恶。造成这个现象的原因是终生雇佣制。这使得日本员工失去了改变的动力。同样的事情现在正发生在中国，而且情况只会更加糟糕。
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Have you worked in China?
你有在中国工作过吗？
Not sure about China, they seem to be innovating hard
我对中国不太确定，但他们似乎在努力创新
there are some sort of citizen ranks similar to indian caste system running quietly behind japanese society. once you're put in certain position, you're destined to live in that position for life.
日本社会背后存在着某种公民等级制度，这种制度和印度的种姓制度很像。一旦你被放在了某一个位置上，那么你就注定要在这个位置上活一辈子。
Worse for China?
中国的情况会更加糟糕？
Good video. I am Korean and I think Korea is following Japan's footsteps. Many companies are slowly losing their influence in their fields and there is a really large real estate bubble that is starting to burst right now. Korea has a personal debt level of 150% to the GDP (number 1 in OECD nations) and on average around 80% of personal Korean assets are in real estate.
The birth rate is catastrophically low at 0.75.
很好的视频。我是一个韩国人，我认为韩国正在步日本的后尘。很多企业正慢慢失去在自己领域的影响力，而且韩国巨大的房地产泡沫正在开始破裂。韩国个人债务占gdp的150%，是所有经合国家中最高的，韩国个人资产有80%左右都在房地产。
韩国的出生率已经低到了灾难性的0.75
do Koreans invest in the stock market?
韩国人投资股市吗
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@Rocketman Yeah, Luna was created by Korean. A lot of them invested heavily in crypto and it's quite catastrophic lately due to crypto crash.
是的，luna币就是韩国人创造的。很多韩国人大力投资加密货币，但最近由于加密货币崩溃，造成了灾难性的后果。
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I live in sweden and I think south korea and sweden are quiet similar with overpriced housing and personal debt.
我住在瑞典，我认为韩国和瑞典在高房价和个人债务方面有着同样的问题
I think that Korea is very similar to Japan, but I wouldn't say it's following in its footsteps.
我认为韩国和日本很像，但我不认为韩国在步日本后尘
korea will not follow japanese footsteps. why people are asumung that. different country, different culture, different mindset. japanese and korean ethics, mindset, philosophy are completely different. and thus it will not follow japanese footsteps. japan lacks the sense of urgency. whereas koreans have the sense of competiton, taking competitors seriously and unlike japan koreans adapt very fast to new situations.
韩国不会步日本的后尘。为什么人们会这么认为。韩国和日本是不同的国家，他们有着不同的文化和心态。日本人和韩国人的伦理，心态和哲学完全不一样，因此韩国人不会步日本人的后尘。日本缺少紧迫感。韩国人拥有竞争意识，他们会认真的对待竞争对手，和日本人不同，韩国人可以非常快的适应新的情况
@Jk korea do follow Japan.
韩国确实在步日本后尘
That's what happens when you're a US colony. Other western countries in decline as well. As Kissinger said, it's dangerous to be a US enemy but fatal to be an ally
做美国的殖民地就会发生这种事情。其他西方国家也在衰落。正如基辛格所说，做美国的敌人是危险的，但做美国的盟友却是致命的
well without USA and Japan, korea will never reach this level.
没有美国和日本，韩国达不到现在这样的水平。
I currently live in Japan and coming from "a third world country" I'm so shocked how outdated most of thier software and computers they use are. Yes, they may have far better infrastructure but I realise why most Japanese corporations are now lagging behind is that they don't realise the importance of software. Another big problem are the stagnant salaries and wages making the young and educated yearn to move overseas.
我来自第三世界国家，现在住在日本，日本人现在使用的大部分软件和计算机偶都已经严重过时了，这让我很震惊。是的，他们或许有更好的基础设施，但我意识到为什么日本大部分企业落后的原因了，因为他们不知道软件的重要性。日本的另一个大问题是工资水平停滞不前，这使得年轻人和受过教育的人渴望移居海外。
Japanese programmers earn 1/2 of Chinese peers (am referring to big companies of both sides) and have to tolerate 2.5+ times higher living costs (Chinese have to spend their family saving on housing, but the rent in China is so much lower)
日本程序员的工资只有中国同行的一半（我指的是中日两国大企业的程序员），但他们却不得不忍受比中国高2.5倍的生活成本（中国人不得不把家庭积蓄花在住房上，但他们的租房成本要低的多）
The elderly population is an opportunity for Japan in development of robotics.
老龄人口是日本发展机器人的一个机遇
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But who is going to develop it?
但由谁来研发这些机器人呢？
the problem on japan is the elderly don't spend money, just saving in the deposit and the young don't have a money to spend. so, its economy's gone ugly even with over 100mil of population.
日本的问题在于老年人不花钱，只存钱，而年轻人没有钱花。所以即便日本人口超过一亿，但日本的经济依然很难看。
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They need immigrants
日本需要移民
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Japanese Yen is now equal to 150Yen per one US dollar - a cratering of 30% of its value since last year. Japan's average wage has actually fallen compared to the average wage in 1990. Japan is no longer the highest income Asian country.
现在一美元可以兑换150日元，自去年以来日元已经贬值了30%。日本现在的平均工资实际上还不如上世纪90年代。日本已经不再是亚洲收入最高的国家了。
Lowering the Yen is part of their government's strategy to keep their economy up so that's not really a good indicator that Japan's economy is falling.
降低日元汇率是日本政府维持经济增长战略的一部分，日元汇率这个指标并不能很好的说明日本经济正在下滑。
@Maden Smith Keeping it a bit lower was a part of their strategy, sure. But not 150 yen to 1 dollar. That would be a disastrous policy. Why? Because it makes importing energy and food very expensive.
当然，日本政府的战略是稍微降低一点日元汇率，但他们并不愿意让日元汇率跌倒1美元兑换150日元的地步。为什么？因为这会让能源和粮食的进口价格变得非常高。
Regardless, Japan has an incredible amount of soft power. And it is a remarkable achievement.
不管怎么说日本拥有惊人的软实力，这是一项了不起的成就
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They own anime, they rule the world
他们拥有动漫，他们统治着世界
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Japan didn’t adequately focus on software, instead focusing on hardware, and they missed the digitization transformation
日本关注硬件，而没有充分的关注软件，他们错过了数字化转型
The Japanese economy began to decline when computers, and smartphones became more and more popular. A smartphone can replace a number of electronic devices, like calculators, cameras, electronic organizers, televisions, CD music players, radios, scanner, etc. Japan made a lot of those electronic devices, but with the advent of the smartphone, and computers all of these things became redundant
当计算机和智能手机越来越流行的时候，日本经济就开始出现下滑。智能手机可以取代很多的电子设备，比如计算器，相机，电子记事本，电视机，CD音乐播放器，收音机和扫描仪等。日本制造了很多这样的电子设备，但随着智能手机和电脑的出现，所有这些电子设备都成了多余的东西。
Everyone who says Japan needs more immigration is 100% wrong, that would lead to more issues. I am from Germany and we've seen nothing but decline here.
任何认为日本需要更多移民的人100%是错误的，这会导致出现更多的问题。我来自德国，我们在德国除了衰落，什么都没有看到。
A lot of Japanese websites - even new ones, still look like they were made in the 90s.
很多日本网站，即便是新网站，看起来依然像是90年代的网站一样。
Japanese companies have fallen behind. IT and software in Japan are awful.
日本企业已经落后。日本的信息技术和软件非常糟糕
Japanese electronics is going down because of high competition. But, Japanese service and financial industry are getting bigger.
由于竞争激烈，日本的电子行业正在走下坡路，但日本的服务业和金融业正在发展壮大。
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The GDP per capita of Korea surpassed that of Japan in 2019. and average Japanese university grads pay scale is 3/4 that of Korean university grads and the gap is noticeably bigger each year.
韩国人均gdp在2019年超过日本，日本大学毕业生的平均工资是韩国大学毕业生的四分之三，而且差距每年都在扩大。
The rising interest on Dollar loans was the final nail in Japan's coffin.
美元贷款利率上涨是压倒日本的最后一株稻草
biggest reason is the rise of its neighbors as serious competitors
日本衰落的最大原因是因为两国崛起成为了日本重要的竞争对手
Japanese companies didn't stop innovate lol. They had the highest automation in the world. Their car factories used automated machines
日本企业没有停止创新，哈哈。他们拥有全世界最高的自动化水平。日本汽车制造厂在使用自动化机器制造汽车
There's no mention of the Plaza Accord which was signed between US and Japan. Its primary purpose was to strengthen the Japanese Yen against the US dollar such that Japanese exports would no longer be competitive in the global market.
视频中没有提到美国和日本签署的《广场协议》，该协议的目的是使日元对美元升值，从而使日本出口产品在世界市场上不再具有竞争力。