随着时间的推移，欧盟、美国和中国的电动汽车在新车销售中市场份额的变化
Market share of electric cars among new car sales in EU,US and China over time
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基本上，在欧洲，任何新的还算像样的电动车都要花费你至少4万欧元。
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Market share of electric cars among new car sales in EU,US and China over time
随着时间的推移，欧盟、美国和中国的电动汽车在新车销售中市场份额的变化
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Basically, in Europe, any new half decent EV is going to cost you at least €40K. Few people can afford that. Except Norwegians. Which is why EVs have taken off there big time.
I want my next car to be an EV. So I'm going to try to keep my old one going as long as I can, because right now the cost of an EV (even second hand) is prohibitive. I managed to stretch to an electric bicycle though, and have replaced many of my car journeys with that.
基本上，在欧洲，任何新的还算像样的电动车都要花费你至少4万欧元。很少有人能负担得起。除了挪威人。这就是为什么电动汽车在那里（挪威）大行其道。
我希望我的下一辆车是一辆电动车。所以我打算尽量保持我的旧车，因为现在电动车的成本（即使是二手的）是很高的。不过，我还是设法买了一辆电动自行车，并且用它取代了我的许多汽车之旅。
In China they also have the “derpmobiles” (my word) or smaller electric vehicles which are not up to par with European regulations.
在中国，他们也有 "derpmobiles"（我造的词）或较小的电动车，这些都不符合欧洲的规定。
Sweden
Which is why EVs have taken off there big time.
Also due to electric cars being tax free (up to about 50 000€, previously unlimited), with regular cars being heavily taxed.
瑞典
“这就是为什么电动汽车在那里大行其道。”
这也是因为电动汽车可以免税（最高约5万欧元，以前是无限制的），而普通汽车则被征收高额税。
In the US too electric cars are very expensive. Too expensive. It’s great that you got an electric bicycle though, honestly this is the best way to move inside cities: fast, cheap and zero emissions
在美国，电动汽车也很贵。太贵了。不过，你有一辆电动自行车是很好的，说实话，这是在城市里移动的最好方式：快速、便宜和零排放。
If you're looking for zero emissions, just getting a regular ass bike would probably be the better choice over an e-bike. Not like a city will have a lot of hilly terrain that you'll need the motor for anyways.
如果你想追求零排放，买一辆普通的自行车可能比电动自行车更好。反正城市不会有很多丘陵地带，让你需要一个马达。
England
I live in Manchester City centre which is super flat, so I can cycle everywhere. If I lived further out in the city, it’s a lot hillier and I’d struggle. If you lived in Lisbon, Porto or Sheffield, for example, it’s blimming hilly and it would help.
英国
我住在曼彻斯特市中心，那里非常平坦，所以我可以到处骑自行车。如果我住在城市更远的地方，就会有很多坡度，我就会很辛苦。例如，如果你住在里斯本、波尔图或谢菲尔德，那里的山地非常多，马达就会有帮助。
And China has a median income like 3x less than the EU.
而中国的收入中位数比欧盟少3倍左右。
But what the call a car isn't what most Europeans would.
You can get a Chinese "car" on Ali Express for around €1000.
但他们所说的汽车并不是大多数欧洲人所想的那样的。
你可以在阿里巴巴上花1000欧元左右买到一辆中国"汽车"。
I own Skoda Enyaq and my next car in few months or a year (when markets will calm down a bit) will be a gas car again. Simply because I am refusing to waste my life at a charger. No I can't charge at home.
我拥有一辆斯柯达Enyaq，在几个月或一年内（当市场将平静下来一点）我的下一辆车将再次成为一辆汽油车。因为我拒绝在充电站浪费我的生命。而且不，我不能在家里充电。
Modern chargers are incredibly fast. Look it up, you won't have to spend more than 5min at the charging station with the newest generation batteries and chargers
现代充电器的速度快得惊人。查一查吧，使用最新一代电池和充电器，你在充电站的时间不会超过5分钟。
That's a theory. Practically you are lucky if you are charging "only" 30 minutes, usually it is more than an hour.
理论上罢了。实际上，如果你充电如果"只要"花30分钟，就已经很幸运了，这通常是一个多小时。
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Belgium
Getting an electric car without the capability to charge at home is indeed a very weird choice
比利时
买了电动车却不能在家里充电，确实是个很奇怪的选择
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I wanted to get gas car, but they weren't available and I am refusing to buy used cars (bad experience) so I bought electric car as I was thinking that it can't be that bad. It is bad.
我想买汽油车，但他们没有，我拒绝购买二手车（有过糟糕的经验），所以我买了电动车，因为我在想，它不可能那么糟糕。结果它很糟糕。
Tell that to the Agenda 2030 politicians that wanted to ban internal combustion engines
告诉那些想推动在2030年禁止内燃机的政客们。
find a faster charger
找一个更快的充电器不就得了
That's a "stop being poor" level answer.
这是一个类似于“不要变穷就好了”的评论
no , its not. this guy charging with slow charger or lying.
不，是这个人用慢速充电器充电或者在说谎。
No, I have experience from real life, you have experience from the internet.
不，只是我有来自现实生活的经验，你有来自互联网的经验。
Emilia-Romagna
I don't know what is the ratio between electric car prices and salaries in China and the US, however in most European countries (mostly referring to Mediterranean EU and Eastern EU) buying an electric - or even a hybrid - car, is an unachievable goal for the vast majority of citizens.
罗马涅
我不知道中国和美国的电动车价格和工资之间的比例是多少，但是在大多数欧洲国家（主要是指地中海欧盟和东欧），购买电动车--甚至是混合动力车，对绝大多数公民来说是无法实现的目标。
United States of America
It’s the same in the US. Most people can’t afford them
美利坚联邦合众国
在美国也是如此。大多数人买不起
Manufacturers offer wide range of choices. A cheap-end best seller being the Wuling mini-ev, about 5000 euros. They have cute looking are really popular among young people. On the expensive end the Tesla is of course popular, the BYD is also very popular now.
中国的制造商提供了广泛的选择。一个便宜的终端畅销产品是五菱迷你ev，大约5000欧元。他们有可爱的外观，在年轻人中非常受欢迎。在昂贵的一端，特斯拉当然是受欢迎的，比亚迪现在也很受欢迎。
That box is going to cost 16800 eurs in Portugal (with state subsidies).
With our ever expensive electricity, few charging stations, coupled with the small form factor and terrible autonomy of that car, this price is outrageous.
The average age of the cars in our roads is 15 years. This means that right now, most cars on the road are from 2005. One in each 4 cars is 20 years old.
这个盒子（五菱迷你？）在葡萄牙要花16800欧元（有国家补贴）。
由于我们的电力越来越贵，充电站很少，再加上该车的小尺寸和糟糕的自主性，这个价格太离谱了。
我们道路上的汽车的平均年龄是15年。这意味着，现在，道路上的大多数汽车是2005年的。每4辆车中就有一辆已经用了20年了。
For a Europe of the Regions!
Which compared to salaries is a slightly worse deal than getting a smart EQ in Germany for around 13k after subsidies - but it's very, very close.
Not sure if this kind of car will make a killing in Europe anytime soon. Cities are gradually moving away from cars and commuters will find these models too small.
与工资相比，这比在补贴后以大约 13,000 元在德国获得一辆smart EQ稍差一些--但非常非常接近。
不确定这种车是否会很快在欧洲大赚一笔。城市正在逐渐远离汽车，通勤者会发现这些车型太小。
Where would you buy a Wuling in Europe ? Genuine question.
欧洲哪里能买五菱？真诚提问。
"Wuling MINI EV is being introduced in the European market as the FreZe Nikrob EV". I also want one but the price is like 13000 euros here.
"五菱MINI电动车作为FreZe Nikrob电动车被引入欧洲市场"。我也想要一辆，但这里的价格好像是13000欧元。
Would have wanted a temporary car. A bit less interesting at that price though. Thanks nonetheless.
本来想买个临时车。虽然这个价格有点不大合算。不过还是谢谢你。
Bulgaria
China has affordable mass market electric vehicles, in Europe they exist to make well of people feel nice.
保加利亚
中国有负担得起的大众市场电动车，在欧洲，它们的存在是为了让好的人感觉好。
Italy
No, the problem is that in the EU that affordable car is not eletric.
意大利
不，欧盟的问题是，经济适用那款车不是电动的。
I've been looking for a new car. It seems that 3 year old e-Golf costs 35k€. WTF? Non-e-Golf would be maybe 17k€. The price difference between is insane. I mean, I can buy a lot of fuel with 17k€....
我一直在寻找一辆新车。看起来，3年前的e-Golf要35000欧元。这也太离谱了吧？非e-Golf可能是17000欧元。这之间的价格差异太疯狂了。我的意思是，我可以用17000欧元买很多的燃料....
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You can get a 7-8 year old bmw i3 for 17k tho.
你可以用17000元买到7-8年前的BMW i3。
Romania
They are not comparable as class of vehicle. If someone needs the space and comfort of a hatchback they can't replace that with something as limiting as an i3 and still fill their need.
罗马尼亚
它们在车辆级别上没有可比性。如果有人需要掀背车的空间和舒适性，他们不能用i3这样的限制性车辆来代替，而且还能满足他们的需求。
Your calculation is incorrect because the e-Golf likely also holds value much better, so you can sell it for more again.
Not saying 35k is cheap. You still need that kind of money first. But it's like Apple vs Lenovo. Apple Laptops cost 2000€, but after 2 years you can sell them for 1400€. Lenovo Laptops cost 1200€, but after 2 years you can sell them for 300€. Total Cost of Ownership for Apple is 600€, for Lenovo is 900€. Which one is the better choice if you have the 2000€?
你算得不对，因为e-Golf的保值能力可能也更强，所以你可以再以高价卖掉它。
不是说3.5万很便宜。你首先还是需要那么多钱。但这就像苹果与联想的关系。苹果笔记本电脑的价格为2000欧元，但两年后你可以以1400欧元的价格出售。联想笔记本电脑的成本为1200欧元，但2年后你只能以300欧元的价格出售。苹果的总拥有成本是600欧元，联想是900欧元。如果你有2000欧元，哪一个是更好的选择？
Italy
Resell value don't matter much in affordable range. You just need a car that can take you from point a to point b. Doesn't make sense to spend 35k when you can get a cheap car brand new from less than 10k. You need that with eletric
意大利
在可承受的范围内，转售价值并不重要。你只需要一辆能把你从A点带到B点的车。当你能从不到1万的新车中得到一辆便宜的车时，花3.5万就没道理。我们需要这样可负担得起的电动车。
This is the stupidest thing ever. So you basically gave to constantly buy and sell stuff to make up for the difference? After I sell the laptop I still have to buy a new one. And why would I want to buy a new car every couple of years?
这是有史以来最愚蠢的事情。所以你基本上通过不断地买卖东西来弥补差额？在我卖掉笔记本电脑后，我还得买一个新的。而我为什么要每隔几年就买一辆新车呢？
In Belgian prices electric saves you at minimum 6 euro per 100km in fuel prices. That's the lowest difference I've seen this year. At the beginning of the Russian invasion it was about 10 euro per 100km.
Over an average car lifespan of 8 years, that means you need to drive 283k km at minimum to break even. That's only about 34000km per year.
And that's only the fuel costs. You also don't pay road taxes and maintenance costs are lower.
按照比利时的价格，电动车每100公里至少可以节省6欧元的燃料费。这是我今年看到的最低的差异。在俄罗斯入侵之初，每100公里大约可以节省10欧元。
在平均8年的汽车寿命中，这意味着你至少需要行驶28.3万公里才能达到收支平衡。那就是每年只有大约34000公里。
而这只是燃料成本。你还不需要支付道路税，维修费用也更低。
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Portugal
Are you trying to imply those numbers are good? My 16 year old car has 240k km, has cheap taxes and cheap maintenance (about 500€/year avg).
By your numbers the car would start falling appart before it pays off.
葡萄牙
你是想暗示这些数字是好的吗？我16年的车才行驶了24万公里，也有着便宜的税收和便宜的维护费（约500欧元/年平均）。
按照你给的数字，这辆车在用尽价值之前就开始崩溃了。
Belgian numbers, Belgian fuel costs etc.
So if you were Belgian it wouldn't make sense for you to buy an EV. You make way too few km/year to make it worth it.
这是比利时的数字，比利时的燃料成本等。
因此，如果你是比利时人，你购买电动车是没有意义的。你每年行驶的公里数太少，不值得购买。
The Netherlands
Hmm in NL i can find 2019 e-golfs for 25-27k.
尼德兰
在尼德兰，我可以以2.5-2.7万的价格找到2019年的e-golfs。
Greece
The problem is that a lot of the big European countries don't make electric cars affordable (in price) and convenient (with charge areas everywhere in urban areas like Norway) enough.
问题是，很多欧洲大国没有让电动汽车变得足够实惠（价格）和方便（像挪威那样在城市地区到处都有充电区）。