观点：就算战利品狩猎很酷，但用枪杀害动物是最不招人敬佩的方式了~

skiing_yo
Throwback to when Mike Tyson tried to box a Gorilla but the zookeeper wouldn't let him
 
回想当年，迈克·泰森曾试图和一只大猩猩打拳击，但动物园管理员不允许他这么做。
 
Lmao Mike Tyson would have literally been ripped in half and they’d have to put down the gorilla
 
（回）那迈克·泰森就真有可能被撕成两半了，而他们就只能杀死那只大猩猩了。
 
The gorilla would've then bit Tyson's ears off.
 
（回）然后那只大猩猩就会把泰森的耳朵咬下来。
 
Was at the zoo earlier this year and saw two gorillas wrestling each other. I wrestled for about 10 years at a pretty competitive level. These gorillas were showing pretty sound technical wrestling. All stuff you'll see at the collegiate level.
Also they're FUCKING GORILLAS! MIKE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!?!
 
（回）今年早些时候，我在动物园看到两只大猩猩在互搏。我在一个竞争相当激烈的级别中从事了约十年的摔跤。这两只大猩猩展现出了相当全面的摔跤技。全都是你在大学水平的比赛上能看到的招数。
而且它们可是TMD大猩猩！迈克，你脑袋瓜在想什么呢？
 
None of that shit matters when a gorilla is 10x as strong as Mike and 25x as strong as an average person.
They also fight with life or death ferocity. You can't match that.
 
（回）这些都无关紧要，因为大猩猩的强壮程度是迈克的10倍，是普通人的25倍。
而且它们可是以性命相博，凶残至极。这一点你可是比不了的。
 
That was one confident-ass zookeeper to stop a coked-up Mike Tyson.
 
（回）那还真是个自信满满的动物园管理员，居然敢去阻止可卡因上头的迈克·泰森。

Paul_-Muaddib
I would say that poisoning is the least impressive way to kill something.
 
我觉得，毒杀才是最难招人敬佩的杀戮方式。
 
That works. I was trying to think of less impressive ways to hunt things than a gun and I came up with "booby-trap" and "hunting by drone strike." Neither of those are legal, but they still seem less impressive.
 
（回）但此法有效。之前我很努力地想找出比枪支更让人心无波澜的捕猎方式，然后就想到了“诱杀”和“用无人机空袭来打猎”。这两种方式都不合法，但似乎它们仍是比枪杀更难震撼到人的方式。
 
You joke, but some people do use drones for hunting.
 
（回）你在开玩笑，但有些人确实是用无人机来打猎的。
 
Drones with mounted guns sound like a great way to cull invasive boars though.
 
（回）但装上了枪的无人机听上去是选择性捕杀入侵野猪的绝妙方法。
 
Nah, trapping takes skill and patience. Not to mention ingenuity since the hunter has to make their own traps.
 
（回）不，诱捕是需要技巧和耐心的。更不用说聪明才智了，因为猎人必须自己制作陷阱。
 
VoxBijou
That's why i run behind my prey until it dies of exhaustion like god intended.
 
这就是为什么我会在我的猎物后面追着它跑，直到它力竭而死，如同天意一般。
 
Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution were spent perfecting that technique.
 
（回）几十万年的进化，就是为了完善这一技术。
 
So next time you see a fat guy sweating just remember he is the peak of evolutions advance cooling system that allows them to kill animals by chasing.
 
（回）所以，下次你看到一个满身大汗的胖子，请记住他是进化的巅峰，有了这么先进的冷却系统，他们就能通过追逐来杀死动物了。
 
Amen! I slowly stab it in the hind quarters when I get close enough so it runs out of energy faster too.
 
（回）阿门！当我靠得足够近时，我会慢慢地刺入它的后肢，这样它的能量就会更快耗尽。
 
We can take sticks, and make them pointy!
 
（回）我们可以选棍子，然后把它们削得尖尖的！
 
What if we throw those sticks real good ?
 
（回）如果我们投掷这种棍子的技艺很精熟，会怎么样呢？
 
That is the pathway to gun
 
（回）此法的终点不就是枪么
 
All roads lead to Rome.
 
（回）条条大路通罗马。
 
This is literally how we hunted. Or we threw rocks. Op really thinks humans were out wrestling fucking bison to earn their meat. Nah homie we’re at the top of the food chain because of our brains and tools we use not because we are good at wresting. Lmao
 
（回）这还真就是我们打猎的方式。或是投掷石块。楼主真的认为人类是通过在野地里和该死的野牛搏斗来获得他们的肉的。不是这样的，哥们，我们能站在食物链的顶端，是因为我们的大脑和我们使用的工具，而不是因为我们擅长摔跤。吼吼
 
Personally I think we're at the top because of sweating. Sweating enables our extreme endurance and allows for more efficient cooling of our brain.
 
（回）我个人认为，我们之所以能站在顶端是因为出汗。是出汗让我们拥有了超强的耐力，也让我们的大脑得到了更有效的冷却。
 
This is literally how a sext number of communities hunted. This tactic does not work in all climates/environments. The tactic requires conditions favorable to tracking or long, open sight lines. Try this in a deciduous forest and it’ll never work. The deer will lose you over the next hill and you’ll have no way of finding it again because there won’t be any tracks. I’ve noticed that all of the people who push this theory don’t hunt.
We are ambush predators. We make traps or we throw things at unsuspecting animals.
 
（回）这还真是某些特定群体的狩猎方式。但并不是所有的气候/环境都适用这种战术。这种战术需要的是那种有利于追踪或是能提供绵长而开阔视线的环境。要是在落叶林中尝试此法，那是绝不会成功的。一到下一个山头，你就会跟丢那只鹿，而且你也不可能再找到它了，因为它不会留下任何踪迹。我注意到，所有推崇这一理论的人都是些不打猎的人。
我们是伏击型的掠食者。我们的路数就是制造陷阱，或是向毫无戒心的动物投掷某物。
 
Shooting a thing is just evolved throwing a thing at a thing. We’re throwing bullets using gunpowder to create the energy.
 
（回）射杀猎物，其实就是从向猎物投掷某物进化而来的。我们投出去的是用火药生发出动能的子弹。
 
Lol no, that was incredibly rare because you would be expending way too much energy chasing an animal. Like most omnivores humans are opportunistic and will figure out the easiest way to get a meal. Even early humans would hunt in packs to set ambushes or to corner animals, or funnel them to places to make is easier.
 
（回）呵呵不是的，这种方法是极为罕见的，因为你要耗费过多的精力去追猎动物。人类就像大部分杂食动物一样，是机会主义者，人类会琢磨出最容易获得餐饭的方法。就算是早期的人类，打猎的时候也会集群，这样就能设下埋伏，把动物逼到死角，或是把它们从开阔地驱赶到更容易得手的地形收窄之处。
 
I mean yes but the “favorable conditions” for this style of hunting were the kinds found in the part of the world where our ancestors originated - it would’ve only become a less productive hunting strategy once we moved out of our ancestral homelands.
 
（回）我想说确实如此，但你会发现，适用这种狩猎方式的“有利环境”就是我们祖先起源的那些地方，只有当我们离开祖先的家园时，这种狩猎策略才会变得不那么有成效。
 
anti-peta-man
OP on his way to to kill a bear with nothing but his raging erection
 
楼主正在杀熊的路上，但他除了擎天一柱，手上无有寸铁。
 
The only real test of a man is to fuck a bear to death
 
（回）对一个男人来说，唯一的真正考验就是把一头熊CAO到死。
 
There are legitimately people that go bear hunting alone with just a bow. Talk about having to be clutch in a situation — if you don’t nail your first shot, you’re probably dead.
 
（回）也有那种只带一把弓就敢去猎熊的人，倒也不是不合理。说到在某种情况下必须做到位的事情：如果你做不到一击必杀，那你可能就会被弄死。
 
I knew a man who did that. He killed a Kodiak Grizzly with a wooden longbow, while having recently lost a foot to diabetes. Dan Quillian, human legend.
 
（回）我认识的一个人就干过这种事。他用一把木制长弓射死了一头科迪亚克棕熊（灰色型），而他最近因为糖尿病失去了一条脚。丹·奎利恩（译注：弓箭狩猎圈传奇人物），人类的传奇。
 
There actually was a guy that hunted a bear with a spear during bear season somewhere in the US.
 
（回）还真有个人，在美国某地的猎熊季中用长矛猎杀了一头熊。
 
I live in bear turf and have to chase them off just about every morning.
I chase them down on foot. They usually run away. Sometimes they will bluff charge and chuff at ya.
What im doing is trying to scare the bear enough he doesn't come back. they will become problematic and that's when dept of wildlife comes in and kills it.
 
（回）我就住在熊的活动范围内，搞得我每天早上都得把它们赶走。
我会徒步追逐它们。通常情况下它们会逃走。但有些时候，它们会大张旗鼓地冲向你，其实是在虚张声势。
我的做法就是试着吓怕熊，怕到它不敢再回来。它们也会变成麻烦制造者，到那时野生动物管理局就会介入杀掉它。
 
SirNibsAlot6
A lion wrote this
 
这帖子是某只狮子发的吧。
 
gman19976
The trade off of it being “less impressive” is you are less likely to wound the animal and have it die a slow painful death.
Though “easier” a gun is much more likely to be humane.
 
能抵消这种“不那么让人敬佩”之法的就是：通过此法，你就不太可能伤到动物然后让它缓慢而痛苦地死去了。
虽然枪杀“更为容易”，但用枪的话，就更有可能做到人道了。
 
Just ask yourself how you’d like to be hunted and killed. I’d rather be shot with a gun over everything else.
 
（回）只要问问你自己就知道了，你希望自己被哪种方式猎杀。我宁可被枪杀，也不愿意身受其他任何方式。
 
I'd not like to be hunted and killed for sport thank you
 
（回）我谢谢你啊，我可不希望成为猎物然后被杀掉。
 
Salmon-nigiri
I too would like to live to old age and die peacefully as my elephant sisters gather around me one last time.
 
我也想安然活到暮年，然后安详地离世，到时候我的大象姐妹们会最后一次簇拥在我身旁。
 
_AlreadyTaken_
I'd be more impressed if they got a pic of them hugging it while it was still alive and unrestrained.
 
如果他们在动物还活着而且处于自然/无约束状态的情况下，拍一张与之拥抱的照片，我会更钦佩的。
 
Barky21
You guys need to learn how to differentiate between "hunting" and "trophy hunting".
 
你们这些家伙需要学会区分“狩猎”和“战利品狩猎”。
 
SecretHonest1379
It’s a general misconception between hunters and non hunters.
 
这是一个普遍存在于猎人和非猎人之间的误解。
 
Ask a normal hunter when the last time they went trophy hunting and they will sit down and start telling you how they watching this 14 point buck all season(multiple seasons sometimes) waiting for the perfect moment.
Hunters in the normal hunting community fancy themselves “trophy hunters” when they only take big bucks or mount-worthy game.
What normal people call trophy hunting the hunting community call “exotic big game”.
That’s the confusion here. Most veteran hunters of NA big game, consider themselves trophy hunters, but not in the way city folks would.
There are a few ranches that raise exotic came that you can pay to go hunt and THAT is super unimpressive. It’s like 100acres of flat land with Ibex chillin waiting to be shot. Most hunters don’t consider that real hunting.
 
去问问一个正常的猎人，他们上一次搞战利品狩猎是什么时候，他们会坐下来，然后开始诉说他们是如何在整个季节（有时会跨越好几个季节）中不间断地观察这头14点的公鹿，以守候完美的（猎杀）时刻。
（译注：点即鹿角分叉数，14点即鹿角分出14叉，14叉雄鹿在北美已属罕见）

在正常的狩猎圈子里，那些只猎取大型公鹿或是具备壁挂价值猎物的猎人，就会自诩为“战利品猎人”。
而正常人口中的战利品狩猎，在狩猎圈子里被称为“异国大型猎物狩猎”。
正是在这一点上发生了混淆。参加北美大型猎物狩猎比赛（大满贯）的大部分猎人都自认为是战利品猎人，但和城里人玩的那套不是一个概念。
有几个大牧场畜养着异国动物，你可以花钱去猎杀它们，但这么做根本就无法令人生敬。大体情况就是，在100英亩的平地范围内，毫无戒心的羱羊（译注：俗称大角羊）在等着被射杀。大部分猎人不会把这种活动视为真正的狩猎。
 
 
 
（图解：战利品壁挂）
 
Now let’s talk about exotic trophy hunting. It will do more good for the conservations of those animals than any of us in this thread will ever do.
The tags issued are usually to kill a specific animal that is old/violent/diseased/non breeding.
They take your (upwards of 100K) to kill an animal that the rangers were going to kill anyway for the chance to go out and hunt a big game animal.
Last I saw elephants were north of half a million. And I tell you what, you are brave to shoot an elephant with anything.
 
现在我们来谈谈异国战利品狩猎。这种活动对这些动物的保护效果，比这个帖里的任何一人都要大。
签发的标识牌通常是为了猎杀一种指定的动物，就那种年老的/凶暴的/生病的/不再繁殖的。
他们会带着你（你得花超过10万美元）去杀一只护林员无论如何都会杀掉的动物，为的就是得到出去猎杀大型猎物的机会。
我最后一次看到有猎大象的，费用在50万美元以上。而且我可以告诉你，不管你用什么武器射杀大象，都堪称勇敢了。
 
 

（图解：印第安纳州签发的标识牌）
 
Govinsky
Im not against hunting, but I never understood mounting a deer head. Like congratulations, you slayed Bambi. It’s not like it’s the head of a fire breathing dragon threatening the local village, but I guess it’s close enough.
 
我不反对狩猎，但我从来都无法理解在墙上挂鹿头这件事。是在祝贺你斩杀了小鹿斑比吗。如果是威胁到当地村庄的喷火龙的龙头，那还像点话，但我想这已经很接近了。
 
Miserable-Ad3196
Totally popular opinion. Killing things your not eating is just wrong.
 
你这完全是一种很流行的观点。杀死你不吃的东西就是错的。
 
LucywiththeDiamonds
Dunno if its unpopular but i fully agree.
If you go hunting and feel all powerful by killing a unsuspecting animal by holding a gun and slightly moving a finger thats some real small dick energy.
 
我不知道这种观点是否不受欢迎，但我完全同意。
你去打猎，端着枪稍微动一动手指就杀死了一只毫无戒心的动物，如果这就让你觉得自己是赵日天了，那你就是在补偿因阳具太小而缺失的自信了。