网友讨论：为什么日本一直无法成为超级大国？
Why Japan Never Became a Superpower
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网友：为了成为超级大国，你需要有大量的资源以备战争之需。日本或许富裕，但依然需要依赖中东的石油和美国的粮食。如果切断这些物资供应，那么日本经济就会很快崩溃。
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网友讨论：为什么日本一直无法成为超级大国？
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In order to be a superpower, you need to have a vast quantity of resources you can upon in case of a war. Japan may be rich, but it is still dependent on stuff like oil from the Middle East and grain from America. If Japan was cut off from these things the economy would collapse very quickly.
为了成为超级大国，你需要有大量的资源以备战争之需。日本或许富裕，但依然需要依赖中东的石油和美国的粮食。如果切断这些物资供应，那么日本经济就会很快崩溃。
Japan has always relied on other countries for oil.
日本一直依赖其他国家的石油
@Jason Dyrkacz and that's why it couldn't become a superpower, and that's also why they invaded the Dutch East Indies in WWII
这就是为什么日本无法成为超级大国以及二战期间为何要入侵荷属东印度群岛的原因。
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Japan's real power is not resousrces, they're not rich in those. Their richness is really the Japanese people 日本人. Look at Argentina for example they have the resources yet Japan has more economic might than Argentina.
日本真正的力量不在于资源，他们的资源并不丰富。他们真正宝贵的是日本人。以阿根廷为例，他们有资源，但他们的经济实力不如日本。
That was why they had to conquer Korea and China
这就是为什么他们必须征服朝鲜半岛和中国的原因。
And that's why Russia IS a superpower. They're more or less self-sufficient in regards to their natural resources and food.
这就是为什么俄罗斯是超级大国的原因，在自然资源和粮食方面，他们或多或少可以自给自足。
@Fiero88mph2018 their economic influence is non existent. A superpower also needs to have a extremely influential economy. Also Brazil and Argentina could be argued to be resource rich and self sufficient yet they aren't superpowers. (Brazil and Argentina can produce their own food and export alot too)
但俄罗斯没有经济影响力。一个超级大国还需要有强大的经济影响力。巴西和阿根廷可以算的上是资源丰富，可以自给自足的国家，但他们不是超级大国。巴西和阿根廷也可以自己生产粮食并大量出口。
Japan has bamboo which is a significantly better material than wood. But that's about all they have unfortunately.
日本有竹子，这是一个比木材更好的材料，但遗憾的是，他们只有这些东西
That's why Japan rampaged through East (multiple times) and Southeast Asia, it wanted those resources and land.
这就是为什么日本当初在东亚和东南亚横行霸道的原因，那是因为他们想要获得那些资源和土地。
@nat21 regardo I agree with this. Japan relies supply of raw resources from other countries. But it is its people and culture that made it progressive in just a matter of decades, putting the collective good first.
我同意你的看法。日本依赖其他国家的原材料。但日本在短短几十年内取得如此巨大进步依靠的是日本人民和将集体利益放在首位的日本文化。
I'm Japanese and tbh, the empire was brutal and I'm glad that Japan is now more peaceful. I do hope Japan will prosper, along with its fellow Asian nations.
我是日本人，老实说，日本帝国是野蛮残酷的，看到日本现在比以前更加和平让我感到非常高兴，我希望日本可以和其他亚洲国家一同繁荣。
Considering it has the 3rd largest GDP, its influence in western culture from ninjas to anime, and the fact that every western household owns a product made by a Japanese company (i.e. Honda, Sony, Toshiba, Yamaha, Nintendo, etc.), Japan has done pretty well for itself for the past 70 years. WWII Japan could never have dreamed of having this much world influence.
日本是世界第三经济大国，其在西方国家有很大的影响力（从忍者到动漫），每个西方家庭都有日本企业制造的产品（如本田、索尼、东芝、雅马哈、任天堂等），可以说过去七十年日本表现的非常好。二战时期，日本从未想过会有那么大的世界影响力。
WW2 Japan really was just a major power equals with the British Commonwealth, the USA, Germany and the Soviets. Even then Japan was on the low end of major powers despite their major gains.
It was 80's-90's Japan that really had the chance, on being the world's biggest economy, overtaking the USA, which was considered as the global hegemon.
二战时期的日本还只是一个和英联邦，美国，德国，苏联平起平坐的大国。即便那时日本取得了很大的进步，但在主要大国中，日本依然不上档次。
而到了上世纪80年代和90年代，日本才真正有机会超越世界霸主美国，成为世界最大经济体。
Surely Japan did dream of global influence during WWII. The difference is that modern Japan got it, WWII Japan didn't.
日本在二战时期确实梦想拥有全球影响力，区别在于现代日本拥有了世界影响力，但二战时期没有
Japan's soft power on par with superpower country but now overshadowing by Korean products (Korean manhwa, Korean video games)
日本的软实力可以和超级大国相当，但现在他们的软实力在韩国产品面前正黯然失色（韩国的漫画和电子游戏）
Japan's movie exports in 2019 is 8.65 times larger than South Korea's one.
日本2019年电影行业的出口金额是韩国的8.65倍
4th soon….I’ll give it by 2025 India will surpass it
很快日本就是第四经济大国了，我认为到2025年印度将会超过日本
@TNT_PKK India? Surpass Japan? It’ll have to surpass Germany first!
印度？超过日本？印度要想超过日本必须先要超过德国
@Gabriel Tinoco Believe or not, music industry of Japan is bigger than South Korea tho. It is the 2nd highest, only behind US. It is not as worldwide popular as K-Pop but its sale is bigger. That's why you see many K-Pop bands try to approach Japanese market.
信不信由你，但日本音乐产业规模要比韩国大。日本的音乐产业仅次于美国，排名世界第二。日本流行音乐或许没有韩国流行音乐那么受欢迎，但他们的销量却比韩国大。这就是为什么会有那么多的韩国流行乐团试图进入日本市场的原因。
The basic conditions (ALL must be fulfilled) to become a superpower nation:
1. Having a large land mass that contain a lot of natural resources
2. Knowledge to processing those resources
3. Having a lot of population
4. Having nuclear bombs
Seeing those points, I guess Japan never qualified to enter the class of superpower league...
要想成为超级大国必须满足以下所有的条件：
1拥有丰富自然资源的大片领土
2掌握处理这些资源的技术
3拥有大量的人口
4拥有核武器
以上几点让我觉得日本从来不具备进入超级大国行列的资格。
Point 4 is really important in the modern world, because if your country has huge natural resources but you don't have enough power to protect it, you may ended up like DR Congo (worst example) or your national policies will be dictate by the real superpower....
在现代世界第四点真的非常重要，因为如果你们国家拥有大量的自然资源，但你又没有足够的力量来保护这些东西的话，那么你的下场或许会像刚果一样，或者你们的国家政策要受到真正超级大国的支配。
@Arif Nasfi yes but just having nukes doesn’t guarantee being world superpower, for example North Korea possesses Nukes but they don’t quite qualifies as world superpower don’t they?
是的，但仅仅拥有核武器并不能保障可以成为超级大国，比如朝鲜拥有核武器，但他们并没有资格成为世界超级大国，不是吗？
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@Golmar that's because they don't fulfill the first, second, or third criteria. you need ALL four of them to be a superpower. Having one is not enough
那是因为朝鲜无法满足前面三个标准。你需要四个标准都满足才能成为超级大国。只满足一个标准是不够的
If they had the natural resouces of the middle east, they would've become a superpower.
如果日本拥有中东的自然资源，那么他们将会成为超级大国。
How much is the minimum land for a superpower
要想成为超级大国，领土最少要有多大
The 1st one very important
第一个标准非常的重要
@Shumaila Maqbool More than 1.5millions sq km...
要想成为超级大国，领土面积最少也要超过150万平方公里。
5. Have a good navy
6. Be on good terms with most of the world
第五要拥有强大的海军，第六和世界上大部分国家保持友好关系
@Sith Lord 6 is completely wrong imo
第六个标准完全不必要
So you are saying that a huge country with a vast population a big economy and a lot of natural resources is not a superpower only because they don't have a nuclear bomb?
所以你的意思是，一个拥有庞大人口，强大的经济和丰富自然资源的国家，仅仅因为没有核武器就不是超级大国了？
Japan could develop nukes in a week
日本在一个星期内就可以研发出核武器
I Do see Japan as a superpower i mean it has the worlds 3rd largest economy Beating every eu country
我认为日本就是一个超级大国，我的意思是，日本是世界第三经济大国，经济规模超过了欧盟任何一个国家
It's a regional power at best.
日本充其量就是一个地区大国
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China meets all 4 factors
这四个条件中国全部符合
@Andi A Indeed, so do America, India and Russia...
确实，美国，印度和俄罗斯也都符合这四个条件
The British empire never had #4, and was unquestionably the world's first superpower.
大英帝国四个条件都不符合，但毫无疑问它是世界上第一个超级大国。
The most important to be a superpower is to have at least 2 million army, well equipped, well trained and willing to risk their lives for their country without question or hesitation.
要想拥有超级大国，最重要的是至少拥有200万装备精良，训练有素，愿意毫不犹豫为了国家冒生命危险的军队。
in the 90s, it was predicted that the US and Japan would have a Pacific War rematch in the 2020s
上世纪90年代，有人预测日本和美国会在2020年代再次爆发太平洋战争。
no Japan took hard lessons in WW 2 they won't start new war against USA
不，日本在二战中已经吸取了惨痛的教训了，他们不会对美国发动新的战争
The short answer is population.
Their population went from 40 million in 1900, to 70 million in 1937. 30 million in almost 40 years, they expanded massively.
Their population went from 80 million in 1948, to 120 million in 1980. 40 million in almost 30 years, they were a global power.
Their population went from 124 million in 1990, to 123 million now. -1 million in 30 years, they've stagnated for 30 years.
简而言之，原因在于人口
日本的人口从1900年的4000万增加到1937年的7000万，在近40年的时间里增加了3000万
之后日本人口又从1948年的8000万增加到1980年的1.2亿。在近40年的时间里增加了4000万，这让日本成为了一个全球大国
1990年日本人口1.24亿，而现在日本人口为1.23亿，在30年的时间里日本人口减少了100万，日本已经停滞了整整三十年。
Actually ,I want to correct some thing here :
They had a population of 43.85 Million in 1900 ,70.36 Million in 1937 (+26.51 Million in 37 years)
Had a population of 79.5 Million in 1948 ,116.6 Million in 1980 (+37.1 Million in 32 years)
Had a population of 123.41 Million in 1990 ,to 128.08 Million in 2008 ,to 125.2 Million now . (+4.67 Million in 18 years ,--2.88 Million in 14 years)
我想更正一下：
1900年日本人口是4385万，1937年人口是7036万，37年时间里增加2651万
1948年日本人口是7950万，1980年人口是1.166亿，32年时间里增加3710万
1990年日本人口1.2341亿，2008年人口为1.2808亿，现在人口是1.252亿，在1990年到2008年的18年时间里人口增加467万，又在后面14年时间里人口下降了288万。
the only reason Japan and others (like Germany) will never reach full potential is simply because the US doesn't want it to happen.
日本和其他国家（比如德国）永远无法发挥全部潜力的唯一原因是美国不希望这种事情发生
how can Japan be a superpower if America controlled their military strength
日本要如何成为超级大国，他们的军事力量都被美国控制了
USA will not allow it to be a superpower, it will not have chance
美国不会允许日本成为超级大国的，日本没有这样的机会
Japan cannot be super power, but I hope it will continue to grow steadily in the future.
日本不可能成为超级大国，但我希望日本未来可以继续稳步增长。
Grow? Have you looked at their demographics? They'll be lucky if they don't have an economic collapse within the century.
继续增长？你有看过他们的人口统计数据吗？如果他们本世纪内没有经济崩溃的话，都要算他们谢天谢地了
Japan stopped to grow in the 90s
日本自90年代以来经济就停止增长了
“Super power”. USSR was a super power but much poorer than Japan. Japan had little interest In being a military or geopolitical leader so that’s why it didn’t become a super power
超级大国。苏联是超级大国，但他比日本穷多了。日本没有兴趣成为军事或地缘政治的领袖，这就是为什么日本没有成为超级大国的原因。