哪些动物永远不能被驯服?为什么?
Which animals can never be tamed? And why?
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理论上，它们可以像马一样被驯服和骑乘。在现实中，它们非常狂暴。
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Which animals can never be tamed? And why?
哪些动物永远不能被驯服?为什么?
哪些动物永远不能被驯服?为什么?
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Zebras. In theory, they could be tamed and ridden like horses. In reality, they are mean as hell.
Any prey species that can thrive around lions, leopards, crocodiles and hyenas has to have a serious attitude problem.
Wild Horses Can’t be Broken: Zebra Domestication Attempts - Thomson Safaris
And, of course, putting the hurt on another zebra. Good luck slapping a saddle on one of these critters and riding it.
It would take hundreds of years of sextive breeding to domesticate the zebra and make it large enough to carry most people, and not want to kill them. Horses can already do that and there’s not much use for horses anymore either.
斑马。
理论上，它们可以像马一样被驯服和骑乘。在现实中，它们非常狂暴。
任何能在狮子、豹子、鳄鱼和鬣狗周围茁壮成长的猎物都必然有严重的“态度”问题。
链接：《野马不屈：斑马驯化尝试-汤姆森游猎》
伤害一头狮子。
伤害一条该死的鳄鱼!
和角马一起狂舞。
当然，还有另一只斑马。祝你在这些小动物身上装上马鞍并骑上去后好运。驯养斑马需要数百年的选择性繁殖，使其足够大，以承载大多数人，而不想杀死他们。马已经可以做到这一点了，而且马也没什么用了。
Zebras have, and still are, ridden and used by humans. See a more balanced answer here: Robin Shepard's answer to Why don't you ever see a zebra being ridden? …and many more. I’ve done it myself.
斑马一直被人类骑乘和使用。这里有一个更平衡的答案:罗宾·谢泼德对《为什么你从来没见过有人骑斑马》的回答。
还有更多的例子，而且我自己也骑乘过。
That’s amazing! Did they capture these wild and tame them, or are they result of generations of sextive breeding? That one in the second photo with a man on it looks larger than a wild zebra. At one point, horses were as wild as zebras and it took a lot of artificial evolution by humans to domesticate them.
这太神奇了！是他们捕获并驯服了这些野生动物，还是世代选择性繁殖的结果？第二张照片中有个人的那只看起来比野生斑马还大。曾经有一段时间，马和斑马一样狂野，人类经过大量的人工进化才驯服了它们。
The exact animals in those photos, I don’t know if they were wild caught. But many that are in the US and Europe are bred from just a few generations of tamed zebras, without much sextion going on since there aren’t too many around to “sext” from. ;-)
The one that guy is riding in the second photo is a full zebra. Size-wise, some subspecies of wild adult Plains zebras are a bit larger than this one. The critically endangered Grevvy’s zebra is in fact, much larger than any of the ones in these photos.
照片里的动物，我不知道它们是不是野生的。但美国和欧洲的许多斑马都是由几代驯化的斑马繁殖而来，没有太多的选择，因为周围没有太多可供“选择”的斑马。
第二张照片中那个人骑的是一匹完整尺寸的斑马。尺寸方面，一些亚种的野生成年平原斑马比这一个稍大。事实上，极度濒危的格雷维斑马比这些照片中的任何斑马都要大得多。
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As of this writing, your answer has 700 likes and 24,000 views, while mine has 4,800 likes and 340,000 views. Yet your answer is much better than mine and you have specific expertise in this subject and I don’t. I don’t know why or how Quora’s algorithms work but those figures should be reversed.
在写这篇文章的时候，你的回答有700个赞和24000次阅读，而我的有4800个赞和340000次阅读。然而你的回答比我的好得多，你在这方面有专门的专业知识，而我没有。
我不知道Quora的算法是如何运作的，但这些数字应该颠倒过来。
Yeah, it’s hard to explain. I think that’s part of the reason so many good writers have left Quora. Their algorithms are less about quality (not that yours is not quality) and expertise, and more geared toward popularity and sensationalistic aspects of the writer, sharer, the question and the answer. I guess it’s just one step up from Facebook
是的，这很难解释。我认为这是很多优秀的作者离开Quora的部分原因。他们的算法不太注重质量(不是说你的答复没质量)和专业知识，更倾向于作者、分享者、问题和答案的受欢迎程度和轰动效应。我想这仅仅比脸书高了一步。
Horses have a weird wiring that makes them give in to the inevitable after a few minutes. That's why you can break them. Zebra's ain't going down without a fight.
马有一种奇怪的脑回路，能让它们在几分钟后屈服于不可避免的事情。这就是为什么你可以打破它们。斑马不会不战而降的。
Well, most horses don’t give in after just a few minutes ;-) … but the “wiring” you mention is a product of thousands of years of artificial sextion of the most “trainable” individuals to breed together, by humans. It has created an animal that is not as flighty or fighty as its wild counterparts.
大多数马不会在几分钟后就屈服，但是你提到的“脑回路”是几千年来人类人工选择最“可训练”的个体在一起繁殖的产物。
它创造了一种不像野生同类那样轻浮或好斗的动物。
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Barracudas. Not only are you not going to tame one, even pulling one out of the water and trying to pose with it can be dangerous as those sharp teeth can take a chunk out of your arm, as many people find out while fishing.
图片警告！
梭鱼。你不仅不打算驯服它，甚至把它从水里拖出来，试图和它合影也会很危险，因为那些锋利的牙齿会从你的手臂上取下一大块，很多人在钓鱼时都发现了这一点。
Dennis Mulgannon
Geeze, Louise. That is the first time I have seen a barracuda next to a human. Those things are massive, and just one more reason for me to stay out of the ocean.
我的天。这是我第一次在人旁边看到梭鱼。它们体型巨大，这是我远离海洋的又一个理由。
yes, agreed! I’ve enjoyed fishing a few times, but honestly with an eel, shark or barracuda on the line I would absolutely either cut the line or drop the rod!
是的，同意！我享受过几次钓鱼，但说实话，如果钓上鳗鱼、鲨鱼或梭鱼，我肯定要么割线，要么放下鱼竿！
That’ll be a badass scar, though.
那伤疤真吓人。
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I snorkeled in the Keys as a kid, and barracuda are creepy. Over 4 feet, and they acted like you were beneath their notice, and your heart would pound til they passed. Under 4 feet, and they would stalk you. The first rule of snorkeling was always “remove all jewelry, wear nothing shiny” or you were asking for Photo 2.
我小时候在礁岛浮潜过，梭鱼很恐怖。超过4英尺，他们就好像没注意到你一样，你的心跳会一直跳到他们离开。在四英尺（约1.22米）内，它们就会跟踪你。
浮潜的第一条规则永远是“摘掉所有珠宝，不穿闪亮的衣服”，否则你会成为照片二的样子。
WRONG! I dove in a public aquarium for many years, we had a tame one. I wouldn’t have stuck my hand in its face, but it would come up to the divers and beg for food at least. I don’t think anyone has tamed ants.
错了！我在一个公共水族馆潜水多年，我们有一只很温顺的梭鱼。
我不会把手伸到它的脸上，但它至少会游到潜水员那里乞讨食物。
反倒是我认为没有人驯服过蚂蚁。
I wouldn’t call that taming necessarily; I’m guessing that it will follow food whether or not people are around… that’s simply what they do… and a black wet suit doesn’t look like something it has an inclination toward biting.
我不认为这就是驯服。我猜不管周围有没有人，它都会跟着食物走，这就是它们的特点，黑色潜水衣看起来不像是它会咬的东西。
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If you wouldn’t call that taming, perhaps you’re confusing taming with domestication. A tame animal is one that tolerates human presence. Moreover, I’m not sure how valid an example “yanking an animal out of the resource that keeps it alive and not expecting to be bitten” counts towards tameness.
如果你不认为这是驯化，也许你把驯服（taming）和驯养（domestication）弄混了。驯服的动物是能容忍人类存在的动物。
此外，我不确定“把一只动物从维持其生存的资源中拽出来且不希望被它咬”的例子是否算驯服。
Being tolerant of humans may in some respects also be called taming, over the years people have found that bears in particular some times turn on their supposed tamers.
Animals in the wild should never be tamed, both for their safety and ours.
I remember a time when all you had to do to keep lions and tigers and bears out of your campsite was to have a camp fire going. But, in modern times, because people think of themselves as great animal tamers, tempting dangerous animals with hand held food, a bear or mountain lion will come right up to a camp fire, looking for food. And, sometimes they find it, in the form of a tolerated human (they go mostly for the internal organs, as these have the most vitamins (health nuts, they may be!)). Children are especially easy prey for a hungry, but tame predator.
对人类的宽容在某些方面也被称为驯服，多年来人们发现，熊在某些时候会对它们所谓的驯服者发火。为了动物和人类的安全，野生动物永远不应该被驯服。
我记得曾经有一段时间，为了不让狮子、老虎和熊进入你的营地，你所要做的就是生一堆营火。
但是，在现代，因为人们认为自己是伟大的动物驯兽师，用手拿食物来诱惑危险的动物，熊或美洲狮会直接来到营火前寻找食物。有时，他们找到了——那些宽容的人类(他们大多寻找内部器官，因为它们含有最多的维生素，他们可能是健康狂!)。儿童特别容易成为饥饿但温顺的捕食者的猎物。
1.The zebra is one of the most surprising animals we have never tamed. In fact, in a sense, it's quite surprising. After all, horses and donkeys have been tamed by humans for years, and zebras seem to look a lot like them. However, no matter how much effort we make, we can't tame these animals. This is because zebra behavior is less predictable, they are likely to attack people, and they do not perform well under stress.
2.Although humans have been using elephants for about 3,000 years, contrary to popular belief, elephants can never be domesticated. The fact that an animal is kept in captivity does not make it domesticated; they have never been tamed in the way that dogs have been. Elephants will always try to escape, and they have even been held in captivity for 12 generations in order to bring them closer to domestication, but have never really succeeded.
3.Rhinos are huge, and despite being herbivores, they have a fierce temperament and never back down in a fight. This temperament means that rhinos are almost impossible to tame, not to mention domesticate. They are simply unwilling to accept humans as their masters, and if someone gets too close, they may hurt or even kill them. On the other hand, it takes 12 years for them to reach sexual maturity, which adds even more difficulty to breeding and reproduction.
4.Tigers are not house cats. No matter how many people have tried to tame tigers, they have never really succeeded. Even those who grew up with tigers can't tame them well. No matter how you look at it, tigers are big and scary animals that can easily deliver a fatal blow to humans, especially when they are hungry.
5.Pandas seem to be the best animals to domesticate. They are big, but they look super cute. But people have not yet found a way to domesticate pandas. One of the reasons is because there are not enough of them left, there are only about 2,000 of them in the world. You need to have a lot of bamboo to domesticate pandas, they are extremely picky about their food, and pandas can be very troublesome to breed. Of course, as mentioned earlier, this is all impossible to do for modern people because they are protected animals and there are so few of them.
1. 斑马是我们从未驯服过的最令人惊奇的动物之一。事实上，在某种意义上，这是相当令人惊讶的。毕竟，马和驴已经被人类驯服多年了，斑马看起来很像它们。然而，无论我们多么努力，我们都无法驯服这些动物。这是因为斑马的行为难以预测，它们很可能攻击人类，而且它们在压力下表现不好。
2. 虽然人类使用大象已经有大约3000年的历史，但与普遍的看法相反，大象永远不可能被驯化。动物被圈养并不能使它被驯化；它们从来没有像狗那样被驯服过。大象总是试图逃跑，即便它们被关了12代，就为了让它们更接近被驯化。但从来没有真正成功过。
3. 犀牛体型巨大，虽然是食草动物，但它们的性情很凶猛，在战斗中从不退缩。这种气质意味着犀牛几乎不可能被驯服，更不用说驯养了。它们只是不愿意接受人类作为它们的主人，如果有人靠得太近，它们可能会伤害甚至杀死它们。另一方面，它们需要12年才能达到性成熟，这增加了繁殖的难度。
4. 老虎不是家猫。无论有多少人试图驯服老虎，他们从来没有真正成功过。即使是那些和老虎一起长大的人也不能很好地驯服它们。不管你怎么看，老虎是一种大而可怕的动物，可以很容易地给人类致命的一击，尤其是当他们饥饿的时候。
5. 熊猫似乎是最好驯养的动物。它们很大，但看起来超级可爱。但是人们还没有找到驯养熊猫的方法。其中一个原因是它们的数量已经不够了，世界上只有大约2000只。驯养熊猫需要大量的竹子，它们对食物极其挑剔，繁殖熊猫也很麻烦。当然，如前所述，这对现代人来说都是不可能的，因为他们是保护动物，而且数量很少。
Only African elephants cannot be domesticated, but Asian ones can be.
只有非洲象不能被驯养，但亚洲象可以。
They are certainly not “domesticated”.
A baby asian elephant is removed from its mother, tortured and essentially broken into submitting to its owner.
Adult elephants are tied to a post on a very short chain when they are not working or entertaining tourists. They are not allowed to roam free.
Dogs and cats have been sextively bred for certain traits over thousands of years.
它们当然不是“被驯化的”。
一只小亚洲象被从母象身边带走，受到折磨，最终被强迫服从它的主人。
成年象在不工作或不招待游客时，会被一根很短的链条拴在一根柱子上。它们不允许自由活动。几千年来，狗和猫被选择性地培育出某些特征。
BS on point #2. Many aristocratic families in Kerala state in India keep domestic elephants just the same as cows elsewhere in the country. They are used as status symbols and for religious processions.
第二点是一派胡言。
在印度喀拉拉邦，许多贵族家庭养着大象，就像养着其他地方的奶牛一样。它们被用作地位的象征和宗教游行。
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Cats.
Not these cats.
The above cats, in captivity, can be trained to do tricks. They can be somewhat tamed.
I’m talking about these cats:
Yeah, they make you think they’re using the litter box, but years after they’ve died and gone to cat purgatory, you find their little reminders, hardened and small, but at one time, extraordinarily large and, you get the idea. . . .
They pee anywhere and everywhere and on anything.
They sharpen their claws on your favorite clothes.
They kill mice. Yay! They kill birds. Boo! And they eat those bells on the special collar to scare the birds away before the birds get murderized by these wild beasts.
They never come when you call. Or, they hear you call, yawn, stretch, make one tiny move like their coming towards you and then the whole rest of the way, even just twelve inches, it’s all in really slow-mo.
First day, they love the new food. Second day, they hate the new food. Everyday after no matter what food, they throw it up along with a bunch of fur balls.
They’ll purr and rub on you and make you think you’re everything, but you’re nothing to them at all but a meal ticket.
You can’t tame them.
They tame YOU, in their own fantasy world.
We buy it everytime we see one of these:
Yeah, yeah. I see all the wild untamed behavior behind those innocent eyes!
猫。
不是这些猫：
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上面提到的这些猫，在圈养的情况下，可以被训练做一些把戏。一定程度上它们可以被驯服。
但我要谈论的是这些猫：
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是的，它们让你以为它们在用猫砂盆，但在它们死后，去了猫的炼狱多年后，你会发现它们给你的小提示，小而坚定，偶尔会非常显眼：
它们随地大小便，随地大小便，任何东西上；
它们会在你最喜欢的衣服上磨爪子；它们杀死老鼠；他们杀死鸟类；它们会吃掉特殊项圈上的铃铛，在鸟儿被这些野兽杀死之前把它们吓跑。
你叫它们，它们从来不来。或者，它们听到你叫，打哈欠，伸展，做一个微小的动作，就像它们向你走来，然后整个过程，即使只有12英寸的距离，都是非常缓慢；
第一天，他们喜欢新食物。第二天，他们讨厌新的食物。每天吃完任何食物后，它们都会把食物和一堆毛球一起扔出来；
它们会呜呜叫，在你身上蹭来蹭去，让你觉得你就是一切，但对它们来说，你什么都不是，只是一张饭票；
你无法驯服它们。他们在自己的幻想世界里驯服了你。我们每次看到这样子都会心软:
是的，是的。我看到了这双天真的眼睛背后的野性！
Cynthia, I have had cats in my life, all through from baby days, but having a break now. In all that time none of our cats, who had access to, but limited time daily inside, when our children were older teens. Before that some of our children would even sneak their pet cat into their bed(which was not permitted…but…)And when I was a preschool child, I had a succession of cats, about 3, one at a time, who resided in the house, mostly with me.
In all that time, and later when access to home, in my older childhood and youth and in my children’s youth and young adult years (all lived at home through uni and later) no cat ever fouled inside our house, with the exception of our old lady, Mittens, who had a couple of accidents during her lingering dying days. I trained our family’s cats myself, and much time and love must be devoted to a kitten, which can determine how settled and domesticated they are.
I understand cats are generally wilful, especially males, but being fastidious with cleaning and toilet is also their established creed. Cats even appreciate defecating privately, they do not like people gazing at them at this time.
I’d prefer a domestic, over a big cat, always. Big cats, they’re basically wild beings, and only a few have ever been able to live a little like a domestic cat with wealthy people who have estates, servants and financial means. However, they can turn and kill and eat their owner. Domestic cats will never turn on their human family who I admit are their servants.
Give me a cat over a dog anyday.
从我还是婴儿的时候起，我就养过猫，但现在想喘口气。
在那段时间里，当我们的孩子十几岁时，我们的猫随时都能进屋子但所有的猫在屋子里待的时间都很有限。在那之前，我们的一些孩子甚至会把他们的宠物猫偷偷放到他们的床上(这是不允许的……但是……)。当我还是一个学龄前的孩子时，我养了几只猫，一次三只，它们住在家里，大部分和我在一起。
在那段时间里，以及后来我回家的时候，在我的童年和青年时期，在我的孩子的青年和刚成年那几年 (从大学开始和后来都住在家里)，没有猫在我们的房子里弄脏过。除了我们的老母猫米滕斯，她在她弥留的日子里发生过几次事故。我家的猫都是我亲自训练的，我们必须在小猫身上投入大量的时间和爱，这决定了它们的安定程度和驯养程度。
我知道猫一般都很任性，尤其是公猫，但对清洁和厕所的挑剔也是它们一贯的信条。猫甚至喜欢私下排便，它们不喜欢人们在这个时候盯着它们看。比起大猫，我更喜欢家猫。大型猫科动物，基本上都是野生动物，只有少数能像家猫一样和有钱的人生活在一起，他们有地产，仆人和经济来源。然而，它们可以转身杀死并吃掉它们的主人。家猫永远不会攻击它们的人类家人，我承认我是它们的仆人。
我爱猫胜过爱狗。
At least they permit you to live in their house. So, there is that.
好歹它们同意你住在它们房子里，所以就这样吧/笑
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I've loved all my cats. This was basically tongue in cheek, but some of our cats were a bit strange. We usually had three or four at a time.
I don't have them any more because I'm allergic to them. One the allergy scale, cats rank a 4; dogs, a 3.
No animal ever sleeps in my bed.
We do have mice. I might get a cat and keep it as a house cat. Mice are very dangerous with their dieases. I'll have to weigh all the pros and cons.
我爱我所有的猫，开玩笑的。
但我们的一些猫有点奇怪，我们通常一次养三四只。我已经不养了，因为我对它们过敏。在过敏量表中，猫被评为4级，狗3。
没有动物睡在我的床上。
我们有老鼠。我可能会养一只猫，把它当家猫养。老鼠的疾病非常危险。我得权衡所有的利弊。
No. No. My cat comes at light speed when I call him (well, not every time) and hugs me after he has eaten, not before. He understands “No” (sometimes) and tries to vomit only on the tiles, not on the carpets (if not too far away). He is reasonably cooperative but not for a very long time (about three year after a past of wild cat behaviou).
不，不。我的猫在我叫它的时候(嗯，不是每次)会以光速过来，在它吃完东西之后，而不是之前，会拥抱我。他能理解“不”(有时)，只在瓷砖上呕吐，而不是在地毯上(如果不是太远的话)。
他很合作，但时间不长(大约在过去野猫行为的三年后)。