你曾经骗过骗子吗（二）
Have you ever scammed a scammer?
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网友：是的，最后连联邦调查局都被逗乐了。太难以置信？早在1989年，我一直为我的家人租房子。事情进展不顺利，在我能支付的价格范围内，大多数房子要么条件很差，要么环境很差。我根据每一条线索去寻找，所以当我看到电话杆上钉着一个招牌......
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Have you ever scammed a scammer?
你曾经骗过骗子吗？
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马克·法利，半导体工程师
Too good to be true?
Back in 1989, I was looking for a house to rent for my family. It wasn’t going well. Most homes in the price range I could pay were either in poor condition or in a bad neighborhood. I was chasing every lead, so when I saw a sign nailed to a telephone pole that offered “3 bedroom homes for rent - $450,” I called and left a message.
The man who called me back introduced himself as “Jesse,” and he indicated that he had two vacant houses remaining. He gave me the addresses and said to call back if I was interested in either home. The first house was much like the others I had been seeing — marginal condition in a marginal neighborhood. The second house wasn’t at all like I expected. It was — AWESOME! It was in a good neighborhood. Looking through the windows, I actually counted four bedrooms, with a master bedroom that opened onto a deck, and it had a sun room! A FREAKIN’ SUN ROOM!
Convinced he had given me the wrong address, I called back, and when he confirmed the address, I quickly told him I wanted to lease the house. He met me at the house, and he seemed to know almost nothing about it. He even seemed surprised that the house actually had four bedrooms. We signed the lease, and he took my first month’s rent and a deposit check for the same amount.
是的，最后连联邦调查局都被逗乐了。
太难以置信？
早在1989年，我一直为我的家人租房子。事情进展不顺利，在我能支付的价格范围内，大多数房子要么条件很差，要么环境很差。我根据每一条线索去寻找，所以当我看到电话杆上钉着一个招牌，上面写着“出租三居室房屋——450美元”，我打电话给他并留言。
给我回电话的那个人自我介绍称自己是“杰西”，他表示他还有两栋空房子。他给了我地址，并说如果我对其中任何一个感兴趣，就给他回电话。第一栋房子和我之前看到的其他房子非常相似——边缘社区的边缘条件。第二栋房子一点也不像我想象的那样。太棒了！这是一个很好的社区。透过窗户，实际上，我数了一下，有四间卧室，一间通向露台的主卧，还有一间阳光房!一个该死的阳光房！
我确信他给我的地址错了，于是回了电话，当他确认了地址后，我很快告诉他我想租房子。他在家里遇见我，他似乎对其房屋情况一无所知。他甚至对这栋房子竟然有四间卧室感到惊讶。我们签了租约，并且按一押一付收了钱。
After a little more than a month of the high life in our new home, a trivial incident happened that was the first indication of trouble. The float in a toilet broke, but it was no big deal. I spent $10 replacing the part, and wanted to arrange to deduct the cost from the next month’s rent. I called and left a message for Jesse that I had something I wanted to talk to him about, but he didn’t call me back. I called back a week later to remind him that I needed to talk to him, but again he didn’t return the call.
It was a Sunday morning, a few weeks later, and I was leisurely lying on the sofa in MY SUN ROOM reading the local paper, when something caught my eye — a report of an emerging scam taking place across the country.
坏消息！
我们在新家过了一个多月的奢华生活后，发生了一件小事，这是麻烦的第一个迹象。马桶里的浮子坏了，但没什么大不了的。我花了10美元更换零件，想从下个月的租金中扣除费用。我打电话给杰西，给他留了个口信，说我有事想和他谈谈，但他没有给我回电话。一周后我回电话提醒他我需要和他谈谈，但他还是没有回电话。
几周后的一个星期天上午，我正悠闲地躺在阳光房的沙发上看当地报纸，突然有件事引起了我的注意——一则关于全国各地正在发生的骗局的报道。
OMG!OMG!!OMG!!!
The article went on to interview renters who had been told they had to leave the foreclosed houses, and some key things stood out: they had surprisingly low rent on nice homes (so the scammer could start the rent stream ASAP), and once they moved in, they could never get in touch with the landlord, despite multiple calls (!!!!!). Fuuuuudge!
I asked a neighbor what he knew about the buyer and, sure enough, he told me that the previous owner owed over $100K on a house she was told she could sell for about $65K, but that a buyer agreed to take over her mortgage for the full amount.
正如故事所解释的，由于经济快速放缓，房屋价值暴跌，在许多地区，房主所欠的抵押贷款远远超过了房屋的价值。不过，一些房主有一种被称为联邦住宅管理局“不合格可抵押”贷款的抵押贷款。这使得房主可以将房屋出售给任何人，而不考虑买家的资格或支付能力，买家只需接管卖家欠联邦住宅管理局的债务。文章指出，骗子正在大量购买这些房屋，立即将其出租，并尽可能长时间地在不支付抵押贷款的情况下收取租金，直到房屋被取消抵押品赎回权。
天啊！天啊！！天啊！
这篇文章接着采访了那些被告知必须离开止赎房屋的租房者，其中一些关键的事情很突出：他们在漂亮的房子上的租金低得出奇（因此骗子可以尽快将其出租），一旦他们搬进来，他们就再也无法与房东联系，尽管打了多次电话！
我问一位邻居他对买家了解多少，他肯定地告诉我，之前的房主欠了超过10万美元的房子，她被告知可以以大约6.5万美元的价格出售，但一位买家同意以全部金额接管她的抵押贷款。
I was PISSED! The last thing I wanted to do was give this scammer another dollar. He had already taken my deposit and two months’ rent. I called the Austin Tenants Council and explained the situation. The friendly lawyer said that I had no proof and that I absolutely, under no circumstances, could stop paying rent.
I remembered that he hadn’t called me back about the $10 toilet float, and that I had never told him why I had called. I decided to give him one last chance, and if he called me back, I would have to keep paying rent. I called him one last time, acting extremely angry and threatening, and waited.
He never called back, and I never sent another check.
最后一个电话：
我很生气！我最不想做的事就是再给这个骗子一美元。他已经拿走了我的押金和两个月的房租。我打电话给奥斯汀租户委员会解释了情况。友好的律师说，我没有证据，在任何情况下，我都绝对不能停止支付租金。
我记得他没有就10美元的厕所花费给我回电话，我也从来没有告诉他我为什么打电话。我决定给他最后一次机会，如果他给我回电话，我就得继续付房租。我最后一次打电话给他，表现得非常愤怒和威胁，然后等待。
他从未回过电话，我也从未再寄过房租。
About three months later, we got the first note on our door demanding that we “call the bank about your mortgage.”The same thing happened for the next four months. During the fourth month, we found a notice posted on the door that the house was being foreclosed on, and that we had to vacate it in 60 days.
In the end, we were in the house for just over nine months, for which we paid two months’ rent and lost the deposit. The scammer lost over $2500 just for not returning my call about a $10 toilet part.
时间到了：
大约三个月后，我们收到了第一张贴在门上的纸条，要求我们“打电话给银行询问你的抵押贷款。”同样的事情在接下来的四个月里发生了。在第四个月，我们发现门上贴着一张通知，房子被取消赎回权，我们必须在60天内搬离。
最后，我们在这所房子里住了九个多月，为此我们付了两个月的房租，并失去了押金。那个骗子因为没有回复我的电话而损失了2500多美元，而缘由是你没回我10美元马桶零件的电话。
About three years later, I was in my garage when my wife came in and said, “Mark, two guys from the FBI are here and they want to talk to you.”
The agents introduced themselves and asked if we had lived at the address of the scam rental house. I said, “Yes, for nine months,” and they indicated that Jesse had been arrested crossing the border into Mexico. He had pulled the same scam on over 20 houses, and they were tasked with building the felony case against him for cheating the FHA. They said they would need a copy of my lease agreement and copies of all the rent checks.
“Yeah, about that, I stopped paying after the second month.” They were incredulous, and when I explained that I quit paying because of the toilet piece and everything, they burst out laughing. I gave them the lease agreement and agreed to get copies of the few checks for them.
Jesse later pled guilty and went to the pokey (ironically, the house is now worth $270K more than he paid for it. If he had just paid the mortgage and kept it, instead of making like a bandit, ).
Man, I loved that sun room!
门口的特工员，哈哈大笑：
大约三年后，我在车库里，我妻子进来说：“马克，两个FBI的人来了，他们想和你谈谈。”
特工们自我介绍，问我们是否住过骗局出租屋的地址。我说，“是的，已经住了九个月了。”他们表示杰西在越境进入墨西哥时被捕。他在20多所房屋上实施了同样的骗局，他们的任务是对他欺诈联邦住房管理局的重罪立案。他们说他们需要一份我的租赁协议和所有租金支票的复印件。
“是的，关于这个，我在第二个月后就停止付款了。”他们都不相信，当我向他们解释说，我之所以不付钱是因为卫生间的东西什么的，他们就哈哈大笑起来。我把租约给了他们，并同意给他们几张支票的复印件。
Jesse后来认罪并被关进监狱（讽刺的是，这栋房子现在比他支付的价值高27万美元。如果他支付了抵押贷款并保留了它，而不是像一个敲诈者那样做）。
老兄，我喜欢那间阳光房！
Yes I have. Here is the story.
In Shanghai at night, taxis go rogue. It’s really strange; I haven’t seen this happen in other Chinese cities at such a large scale: all taxis going rogue.
One night we were in Pudong enjoying the night view. We went down the pedestrian bridge, hailed a taxi, and the driver asked where we were going. I told him the address of our hotel, he said 200 yuan. It was ridiculous because that’s how much it cost us from the airport, and our hotel wasn’t near the airport, it was right across the river. We took the metro to the nearest stop and walked our way back.
The next day we were at Nanjing Road, the end closer to People’s Square. It was at night again and we hailed another taxi. Same ordeal. We decided enough was enough. In daytime, it was 20 yuan. We decided we’d pay him 25, perhaps there was a night-time price hike.
We got in, he arrived at our hotel, and we paid him 25. He got really angry, told the hotel doorman that we were trying to cheat him. I told the doorman he was trying to get more money out of us and that he was asking for 100 yuan from Nanjing road.
The doorman told the cabbie to beat it and apologized for the issue.
是的，我有。故事是这样的。
在上海，晚上的出租车很猖狂。它真的很奇怪;我从未在中国其他城市看到这种情况如此大规模地发生:所有出租车都变成捣蛋鬼。
一天晚上，我们在浦东欣赏夜景。我们走下人行天桥，招呼了一辆出租车，司机问我们要去哪里。我告诉他我们酒店的地址，他说200元。这太荒谬了，因为我们从机场出发要花这么多钱，而我们的酒店尽管不在机场附近，就在河对岸。我们乘地铁到了最近的一站，然后步行回去。
第二天，我们来到南京路，离人民广场更近。到了晚上，我们又叫了一辆出租车—同样的折磨。我们觉得受够了。白天是20元，我们决定付给他25，晚上也许涨价。
我们进去后，他来到我们的酒店，我们付给他25。他非常生气，告诉酒店门卫我们想骗他。我告诉看门人，他想从我们这里弄到更多的钱，他从南京路过来要100元。
门卫叫出租车司机走开，并为此道歉。
Sure have.
This one was the call from a phony Msoft engineer about a virus on my computer.
He directed me to press certain keys.
当然有。
这是一个虚假的微软工程师打来的关于我电脑病毒的电话。
他指示我按某些键。
I responded that the virus had frozen my computer - no response to key presses or mouse movements. I was totally sincere in my tone of voice, pretending as if the condition I was describing was really true.
For the next 5 minutes, he tried telling me various ways to restart the computer.
I replied that no matter what I tried, the system stayed powered up, but was frozen.
He told me finally to pull out the power cord.
I said that I did, but the system was still powered up.
“How can that be?” he asked.
“Running on the battery, I guess,” was my reply.
He believed me, and “escalated” the call. The above conversation was repeated, until they finally just hung up.
I called back, saying we had been cut off. I repeated my problem about powered but frozen, and led the new ”technician” down the same garden path as the first one. They terminated the call, and I called back.
系统锁定：
我回答说病毒冻结了我的电脑——对按键或鼠标移动没有反应。我的语气非常真诚，假装我所描述的情况是真的。
在接下来的5分钟里，他试着告诉我重启电脑的各种方法。
我回答说，无论我做了什么尝试，系统都保持通电状态，但还是被冻结了。
他最后让我拔出电源线。
我说是的，但系统仍然通电。
“怎么可能？”他问道。
“我想是用电池吧，”我回答说。
他相信了我，并“升级”了电话。上面的对话重复了一遍，直到他们终于挂断了电话。
我打回去，说我们的电话被切断了。我又问了一遍我的问题:有电，但卡住，于是我带着新的“技术员”重走和第一个人一样的花园小路。他们挂断了电话，我再打了回去。
In the space of an hour, I had gone through about 5 technicians.
They Roll Out the Big Gun:
At last, I was transferred to the “manager,” who warned me about playing games with them.
“I’m not playing games!” I said. “You guys know I’m not because you called ME, right? You know there is something wrong, here. I’m telling you this system is locked up and I need help.”
对于下一位新技术员，我重复了上述内容。
在一个小时的时间里，我接触了大约5名技术人员。
他们推出了重要人物：
最后，我被调到了“经理”那里，他警告我不要和他们玩脑子。
“我没和你搞！”我说。“你们知道我不是，因为你们给我打的电话，对吧?你知道这里有问题。我告诉你这个系统被锁住了，我需要帮助。”
They switched tactics, now offering to sell me a service plan: One time fix, annual contract, or lifetime contract. All priced accordingly.
I opted for the one time fix.
And he began the upsell process, which went on for 15 minutes. At last I chose the life time plan ($1,500).
By now, about 90 minutes have elapsed since first contact.
But How to Pay?
Having chosen the expensive plan, the manager now asked for credit card information.
I said I didn’t use credit cards, but that I could send a check.
He suggested a wire transfer and asked for my routing information.
I said I hoped he understood that I never told people that information, and suggested we use PayPal instead. “You do take PayPal, don’t you?” I asked.
He said not.
销售：
他们改变了策略，现在向我提供一个服务计划：一次性修复、年度合同或终身合同。其价格都是相应的。
我选择了一次性修复。
他开始了追加销售过程，持续了15分钟。最后我选择了终身计划（1500美元）。
到目前为止，距离第一次接触已经过去了大约90分钟。
但是如何支付呢？
选择了昂贵的计划后，经理现在要求提供信用卡信息。
我说我不用信用卡，但我可以寄张支票。
他建议电汇并询问我的路线信息。
我说我希望他能理解我从来没有告诉过别人这些信息，并建议我们 贝宝（全球最大的在线支付平台）。“应该通过贝宝可以付款吧，是吗？”我问。
他说不行。
And that’s when I said I had a paid premium support plan with Microsoft, and asked why that plan wouldn’t cover the fix.
In a lengthy explanation, he said the plan didn’t cover virus problems.
Now 2 hours had passed.
It Works!
I could tell the manager was frustrated, running out of options. But owing to my utter sincerity, he was hanging in with me.
Then I interrupted: “Hey! You did it! It’s working! This is fantastic! How did you do it?!”
Manager: But I didn’t do anything!
Me: Well, you obviously did something. The system is running faster than ever. This is great!
Manager (angry): No, we did nothing! This is just part of the virus behavior, your system will crash and nothing will fix it.
Me: Wait, wait! (I make key tapping noises). Really, it will crash? So why is it running so well?
我的微软高级支持计划：
就在那时，我说我和微软有一个付费的高级支持计划，并问为什么该计划不包括修复。
在一份冗长的解释中，他说该计划没有涵盖病毒问题。
两个小时过去了。
真管用！
我可以看出经理很沮丧，没有选择了。但由于我的真诚，他一直在和我沟通。
然后我插嘴说：“嘿！你做到了！它工作了！这太棒了！你是怎么做到的？！”
经理：但我什么都没做！
我：你显然做了些什么。系统运行速度比以往任何时候都快。太棒了！
经理（生气）：不，我们什么都没做！这只是病毒行为的一部分，你的系统将崩溃，没有任何东西可以修复它。
我：等等，等等！（我会发出按键声）。真的会崩溃吗？那么为什么它运行得这么好呢？
Me: Hold on! I just finished running a virus scan. The system is clean. No issues found. This is fantastic! Thank you!
Manager: But I guarantee it will fail. This is just temporary.
Me: Hold on. (more clicking noises). But how can you be so sure ?
Manager: We just know from experience.
Me: I just powered down and started up again. Everything is perfect! OK, look, I want to pay you for this. Where can I send a check, what is your address?
Manager: We can’t accept payment like that.
I commend this approach to anyone else who receives the same scam attempt.
经理：病毒就是这样工作的。它给你一种错误的安全感，同时删除文件并破坏你的数据。
我：等等！我刚完成病毒扫描。系统是干净的，没有发现任何问题。这太棒了！非常感谢。
经理：但我保证它会失败，这只是暂时的。
我：等等。（更多咔哒声）。但你怎么能这么确定呢？
经理：我们只是根据经验才知道。
我：我刚关机，然后又启动了。一切都很完美！好吧，听着，我想付钱给你。我可以把支票寄到哪里，你的地址是什么？
经理：我们不能接受那样的付款方式。
我向其他收到同样骗局的人推荐这种方法。
Piyush Singhal，技术和业务开发总监(2013年至今)
On a lazy sunday morning, I got a call from +91 70789 51593, a female voice was talking. I was informed that I have won a free Samsung J2 Mobile Phone and an Adidas kit containing goggles, jeans, shoes and what not. The market value of the combo was 30k but I need to pay winning charges 6.5k for handling.
The deal was kind of appealing but I had a smell of scam due to the winning charges. I used a little wit and accpeted the offer. Meanwhile I went on google and checked for adidas scam. Everyting was confirmed. I was being fooled.
She informed that I did not have to pay anything now but I have to pay cash on delivery. Anyone will fall for this kind of offer. Something worth 30k at the price of 6.5k that too at COD. But the actual thing was, I had to go to local post office to collect the shipment and pre-pay before opening it. (India Post holds no guarranty on the product in the shipment. They just take the money.)
有一次我在电话里遇到了一个骗局，我浪费了骗子的很多钱和精力。
在一个慵懒的周日上午，我接到+91707895193打来的电话，一个女声在说话。我被告知我赢得了一部免费的三星J2手机和一套阿迪达斯套装，里面有护目镜、牛仔裤、鞋子等等。这个组合的市值是3万，但我需要支付0.65万作为中奖手续费。
这笔交易有点吸引人，但由于中奖手续费，我闻到了诈骗的味道。我机智地接受了这个提议。与此同时，我在谷歌上查看阿迪达斯的骗局。一切都得到了证实，我被愚弄了。
她告诉我，我现在不必支付任何费用，但我必须在送货时支付现金。任何人都会接受这种提议。价值3万的东西，0.65万手续费，货到付款。但实际情况是，我不得不去当地邮局取货，并在开门之前预付货款。（印度邮政对货物没有担保。他们只是拿钱。）
She then took my address. I gave my address in complete details and landline/ mobile number was provided. She informed me that I have to go to the IndiaPost office and collect the shipment. Their (both IndiaPost and Adidas) team will inform me when the parcel has arrived and I have to go with 6.5k in hand. I said okay.
Later I got a confirmation of my order. :D
Just to con the scammers, I acted like I'm intrested
Scammers also sent order confirmations now. You are properly ready to be fooled.
她花了大约15分钟来预定。她询问了每种产品的尺寸和颜色。甚至阿迪达斯腰带的尺寸和颜色也被问及。她对每一种产品都非常详细，以确保我购买它。她甚至建议，白色不是一个很好的选择。
然后她记下了我的地址。我详细地给出了我的地址，并提供了座机/手机号码。她告诉我，我得去印度邮局取货。他们(印度邮政和阿迪达斯)团队会在包裹到达时通知我，我必须带着6.5万，我说好的。
后来我进行了订单的确认工作。
为了欺骗骗子，我表现得很有兴趣。
骗子现在也发送订单确认书—已经做好了被愚弄的准备。
Now a week later, I got call from local post office that a parcel has arrived on my name. I informed them I am not coming and this is a scam parcel. They can send it back. I thought this must be over but not yet. Next morning I got a call from the Adidas customer suppourt team from +91 90849 97459 and a guy named Krishna informed me that my parcel has arrived and I have to pay 13k to get it.
I thought to roast him a little and told him I will go that evening. He insisted that I must go on the same day. He also told me to go by car as the parcel was huge.
I called him later that evening and told him that IndiaPost's lazy employees have returned the parcel without my permission. I went there with money but the parcel was returned already. I almost fake cried that I lost such a great offer. He told, he will confirm by checking in his system. He affirmed that the parcel was returned. I requested to send back the parcel. :D
同一天晚上，我接到了一个来自+91 90581 12808 m的确认电话。他们确认了我是否按照他们的要求得到了通知，并且没有提供任何其他信息。他们确保我接受去当地邮局付款接收包裹，我很喜欢和他们聊天，因为我的回答可以看出对此很感兴趣，这让他们很开心。
一周后，我接到当地邮局的电话，说有一个包裹寄到了我的名下。我告诉他们我不来了，这是个骗局包裹。他们可以把它寄回去。我以为这一定结束了，但还没结束。第二天早上，我接到阿迪达斯客户支持团队的电话+91 90849 97459，一个名叫克里希纳的人告诉我，我的包裹已经到了，我必须支付1.3万才能拿到。
我想把他烤一烤，告诉他我晚上就去。他坚持我必须在同一天去。他还告诉我开车去，因为包裹很大。
那天晚上晚些时候，我打电话给他，告诉他印度邮局的懒惰员工未经我允许就退回了包裹。我带着钱去了那里，但包裹已经退回了。我差点哭了，因为我失去了这么好的机会。他说，他将通过检查他的系统来确认。他确认包裹已归还。我要求寄回包裹。
Now, next week, I got a call from Nodia Post office. The guy talked in fake tone of a UP guy. I understood he is a conman too. The said post office guy informed me that there was a big parcel in my name. The parcel weighed 10kgs or something and they are scanning it on a x-ray scanner for security reasons. He told me he could see some mobile phones and key ring etc in the parcel. I confirmed that I had won this one and its all okay.
Now the parcel reached to local post office again. Krishna called me again. He informed me I can get my parcel and pay the money to IndiaPost. I told him I will go tomorrow. He agreed.
Now, he called me like every hour from next day. I didn't take any. He called from other numbers. I heard him and hanged up. He called me for 5–6 days and then he got tired of it.
These folks think the people are fools. Dude, I wasted your 2–3k bucks and numerous calls. :D
I felt like a boss.
好的，他说。当他们得到它时，他可以把它还给邮局。但我必须额外支付500卢比的快递费和手续费，我拒绝了。我说我不想付额外的钱，他可以和他的领导们谈谈，因为这不是我的错，他同意了。
下周，我接到了印度邮局的电话。那家伙说话的口气像个冒牌货。我知道他也是个骗子。那个邮局的人告诉我，我的名字里有一个大包裹。包裹重10公斤左右，出于安全考虑，他们正在用x光扫描仪扫描。他告诉我他可以看到包裹里有一些手机和钥匙圈等。我确认我赢得了这个奖项，一切都对。
现在包裹又送到了当地邮局。那又给我打电话了。他告诉我我可以拿包裹，把钱交给印度邮局。我告诉他我明天去，他同意了。
现在，他从第二天开始每小时都给我打电话，我都没接，他就用其他号码打电话。我听到后挂断了电话。他给我打了5-6天电话，然后他厌倦了。
这些人认为人民是傻瓜，老兄，我浪费了你2-3千块钱和无数个电话。
我觉得自己像个老板。