网友讨论:为什么你不喜欢在日本生活
Why You'll HATE living in JAPAN译文简介
网友:我侄女一直梦想到日本生活,她学了日语,然后搬到大阪攻读硕士学位,但毕业后她搬回到了欧洲,然后再也没有不提日本了
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My niece was always dreaming living in Japan. She learned Japanese and then moved to Osaka for her MB. After graduation she moved back to Europe and never talked about Japan again.
我侄女一直梦想到日本生活,她学了日语,然后搬到大阪攻读硕士学位,但毕业后她搬回到了欧洲,然后再也没有不提日本了
can TOTALLY get that ! hope shes living a great life in EU
完全理解,希望她在欧洲生活愉快
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Wait wait what happend? I wanna know what happend in that time span
等等发生了什么?我想知道她在日本期间发生了什么
八雲黒崎
that's the first mistake. Osaka is one of the well-known places that are dangerous to live in.
搬到大阪。这是她的第一个错误,大阪说有名的危险居住地之一
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@八雲黒崎 And also one of the best cities as well. Lol
大阪同时也是最好的城市之一
I think it depends on your personality. When I visited for an extended time I felt I would definitely fit there.
我认为这要取决于你的个性,我在日本呆了很长一段时间,我觉得自己很适合日本的生活
@Di :3 not only personality, but knowledge of Japanese language and culture also, having a plentiful bank account would help too...
不仅和个性有关,还和是否懂日语和日本文化有关,如果你的银行账户里面有充足的资金,也能起到帮助作用
Weak people can't cope or adapt, so they go back to what they are used to.
软弱的人无法应付困难或适应环境,所以他们回到了以前的地方
@Jinzo are you living here in japan? If not please be quiet.
你在日本生活过吗?如果没有,那请你闭嘴
Because most of the people there are weirdos
Like what my aunt told me because she lives in japan
She said when she first visit japan, she was having a good time but then after a few months passes she wants to go home because she said its not worth living her whole life there
因为大部分日本人都很古怪,这是我阿姨和我说的,因为她就住在日本。她说自己第一次到日本的时候,她觉得日本很不错,但生活了几个月后,她就想回家了,因为她说不值得在那里生活一辈子
oh i want to hear your niece’s story…
我想知道你侄女的故事
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It's true even my Japanese friends don't want to live in Japan
没错,就连我的日本朋友都不想在日本生活
Hmmm probally some weirdo must have bother her
也许有什么怪人打扰到了她
i love japan.... I always dream to live there for the rest of my life. Unfortunatey I cant go there anymore.
i like their discipline so i like to live there. I am a solitary man so I can live without clingy friends everyday.
fine and happy even if I am alone...japan fits my personality.
我喜欢日本,我一直希望可以在日本度过余生,遗憾的是,我不能再去日本了
我喜欢日本的纪律,所以我喜欢在日本生活,我是一个性格孤僻的人,所以就算没有粘人的朋友,我也可以活得很好。就算独自一人,我也可以生活的幸福快乐。我的个性和日本很搭
So many places in Europe are so much worse though.
但欧洲很多地方更加糟糕
Osaka is a rough place, street gangs and Yakuza are a common sight. Not for the faint of heart, especially someone who isn't from Japan.
大阪不是一个好地方,街头帮派和歹徒随处可见,这里不适合胆小的人,特别不适合外国人
not surprised. I am also from Europe and I have worked with Japanese for 3 years. Their society is 100% different from Western. If you are used to living in liberal, open minded society, living in Japan is going to be hell.
完全不意外,我也来自欧洲,我和日本人共事了三年,日本社会和西方社会完全不一样,如果你已经习惯了自由开放的生活,那么日本生活对你来说就是地狱
Where did she learn how to speak Japanese
她是在哪里学的日语?
Pleaseee i live in europe and im planning on going to japan
我在欧洲生活,现在正计划去日本
Italy is the same shit, maybe even worse.
意大利同样糟糕,或许比日本更加糟糕
I went to Japan twice because of work, the first time I am like your niece, the second time I went online and search for other people from my country who live in Japan and connected with them, they help me adapt to the local and their culture. So if you ask me, do I love living in Japan? the answer will be yes.
由于工作原因,我去过两次日本,第一次我和你的侄女一样,第二次我上网寻找在日本生活的本国同胞,并和他们进行了联系,他们帮助我适应当地生活和日本的文化,所以如果你问我,喜不喜欢在日本的生活?答案是我喜欢
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OSAKA SUCKS, ITS AMERICANIZED
大阪糟糕透了,一座美国化的城市
watched too many animes, too much high expectations.
看了太多动画,对日本期待过高
I am not surprised, work life balance, healthcare and salary are much better in europe … so i am not surprised
我并不惊讶,在欧洲工作和生活可以平衡的很好,医疗和工资待遇都比日本好,所以我并不惊讶
Same with me! I also moved to Osaka... I'm Australian... When I left I swore I would never return...of course I did about 4 years later just for 2 weeks...
我也一样,我是澳大利亚人,也搬到了大阪,当我离开的时候我发誓我再也不会回去了,不过四年后我又去了日本,只在那里住了两周
I share the same. But I will say this. It’s the worst country I have been to.
我也有这样的经历,我想说的是,日本是我去过最不好的国家
Rape culture
Is no joke
In Japan. Being a women
There is not easy.
I'm a man.
强奸文化。这不是在开玩笑。在日本,做一个女人并不容易。我是男的。
Japanese law is notoriously strict.
日本的法律是出了名的严格。
@八雲黒崎 why Osaka dangerous
为什么大阪很危险?
Japanese people are very closed minded people.
日本人思想非常封闭
I am a Japanese who left Japan to live in Australia. It is really difficult to live in a foreign country, not only in Japan. Australia is a very nice country and I love Australia. I think it is a better country to live in than Japan. However, it is still a foreign country to me, so I have had some very difficult times in Australia, and I still miss Japan.
我是一个日本人,现在已经离开日本,在澳大利亚生活。在外国生活真的很难,不仅仅是日本。澳大利亚是一个很好的国家,我喜欢澳大利亚。我认为澳大利亚是一个比日本更加适合生活的国家。但是,对我来说,澳大利亚依然是外国,所以我在这里的生活非常困难,我依然很想念日本。
日本的文化非常独特,社会压力很大,所以就算是对日本人来说,要想在日本生活也是很难得事情,因此,我认为要想在日本生活开心最好的办法就是不要永久在日本生活,只把日本当作旅游目的地就可以了
I'm thinking to go study to Japan for a year, can I ask you some advices?
我想去日本学习一年,我能问你一些建议吗?
I am living in Tokyo now. I tears every day
我在东京生活,每天以泪洗面
One reason I would not move to Japan, their "overwork" culture. I have a strong work ethic but I'm also a firm believer of not to work for the sake of working.
我不愿意搬到日本生活的一个原因是,日本有过度工作的文化。我有很强的职业道德,但我也坚信不要为了工作而工作。
well, in canada where i am from, you get paid a lot more for overtime work by law, to encourage the employer to hire more people if there is a lot of work to be done, than over relying on a single person
我来自加拿大,法律规定加班可以得到更多的报酬,如果有很多的工作要做,法律鼓励雇主雇佣更多的人手来工作,而不是过度依赖一个人
People shouldn't romanticize places.
人们不应该把某些地方浪漫化
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how do you romanticize a place the main reason people want to move to japan is because how good it looks in anime
你是如何把一个地方浪漫化的,人们想要搬到日本的主要原因在于在动画里面日本看起来很好
@noodle I think that’s why people romanticize Japan
我想这就是为什么人们会把日本浪漫化的原因
@noodle Exactly, people are romanticizing Japan because of what they see in Anime.
没错,人们根据动画里面的内容而把日本浪漫化了
Too much anime if you ask me
如果你问我的话,那就是因为看了太多的日本动画了
Still better than the U.S. with all their mass shootings and trump rallies.
日本依然比美国好,美国到处都是大规模的枪击和支持特朗普的集会活动
The most racist people I've met in all of Asia were Japanese.
我在亚洲遇见的最种族主义的人就是日本人
Japanese romanticise Paris. Heard of Paris Syndrome?
日本人会把巴黎浪漫化。听说过巴黎综合征吗?
As Korean, It's very hard to make friends in Japan. It's really difficult.
Most Japanese people are so introvert that they are almost defensive against foreigners.(Yeah.. Even Asian like me)
I have three Japanese friend right now but I don't know whether they think me as a friend or not. I feel lonely sometimes... :/
作为韩国人,在日本很难交到朋友。真的很难。大多数日本人都很内向,他们对外国人几乎都很有戒心(没错,即使是对我这样的亚洲人也是一样)。我有三个日本朋友,但我不知道他们是不是有把我当作是他们的朋友。我有时候感觉很孤独。
Then move back to South Korea?
然后搬回韩国了?
I understand. I also have a foreigner friend who once was a high school student in Japan and she told me that it is hard to tell whether they are really friends with her or not
我可以理解。我也有一个外国朋友,她在日本读高中,她和我说很难知道他们和自己是不是真的朋友
Idk if I just had bad luck but literally all Japanese/Korean friends i made were very cold and barely talked
Are they just all busy? Or introverted?
我不知道是不是我运气不好,我交到的所有日本朋友和韩国朋友都很冷淡,几乎不怎么说话。他们都很忙吗?还是说太内向了?
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Let's be friends. Haha Iive inJapa n almost 3yrs now but I still dont have friends here. I really feel lonely all the time.
让我们做朋友吧,我在日本生活了近三年,但我依然交不到朋友,我真的一直觉得很孤独
sorry to hear that… I just moved to Korea last year and its hard for me to make friends; none still :( as a Korean grew up in the US for majority of my life. I hope in time, your circumstances will change for the better!
为你感到遗憾,我去年刚刚搬到韩国,很难在这里交到朋友,我到现在还没有交到任何朋友,作为一个在美国长大的韩国人,我的大部分时间都是在美国度过的。我希望随着时间的推移,你的情况可以得到改善
In high school we all LOVED anime. So while the rest of us went straight to college one of my friends decided to move to Japan without knowing anything about it. He... well honestly all of us thought anime reflected how Japan truly was. One year later he moved back to the U.S. he hated living there and, he felt so alone.
我们在高中阶段都喜欢看动画。所以当我们所有人都选择上大学后,我的一个朋友在对日本没有任何了解的情况下决定要搬到日本去。老实说,我们所有人都认为真实的日本就是动画反映的那个样子的。一年后他搬回到了美国,他讨厌在日本的生活,觉得非常的孤独
I never fantasize living in Japan because of anime, or technology, or game shows etc etc....
我从来没有因为动画,或技术或娱乐节目就幻想着要到日本生活。
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I lived in Japan (Osaka) and it was the most happy time of my life. If you speak a moderate level of Japanese and understand the culture it’s a dream come true. Most don’t like it because it’s not the anime paradise portrayed in their head.
我在日本大阪生活过,那是我人生中最快乐的一段时光。如果你的日语可以达到中等水平,并了解日本文化的话,那么你就可以美梦成真。大部分人不喜欢日本是因为它和我们在脑海中所描绘的动漫天堂并不一样。
Agreed, some people believe Japan is a dream-like anime world.
同意,一些人认为日本是一个梦幻般的动漫世界
You’re a white guy though you probabaly don’t have to deal with the racism stuff agains other Asians
但你是白人,你可能不必面对日本人针对亚洲人的种族主义问题
@神崎アオイ Not so, I've seen videos of nationalist protests in Japan where they were yelling at a white guy "white pig go home" over and over.
不是这样的,我曾看过日本民族主义者的抗议视频,在视频里面他们对一个白人反复高喊“白皮猪滚出日本”。
Correctly said, most people tend to forget that anime is created for Japanese audience. Most in Japan watch anime just to escape from daily life.
正确的说,大部分往往都忘了动画是为了日本观众创作的。大部分看动画的日本人只是为了逃避日常生活而已
If you wanted anime paradise wouldn't you live in Akihabara though?
如果你想要动漫天堂,难道不应该住在秋叶原吗?
i thought that japan was a sad countru because the people look like robots lol
我认为日本是一个可悲的国家,因为日本人看起来就像机器人一样
I lived in a small Village in Nagano.
I speak Japanese (JLPT N2) and I didn't like it at all.
It was so lonely, nobody cared about me, and nobody wanted to go out with me on weekends.
For vacations, the best place.
For living, never again.
我之前住在长野县的一个小村庄。我会说日语,但我不喜欢日本。这里的生活非常孤独,没有人关心我,周末也没有人想要和我一起出去。日本是度假的最佳目的地,但我永远不会再到日本生活了。
I know people who have go to Japan just for bussiness (with a good level of Japanese) and still hate it. It's not a very friendly country.
我知道一些人(日语水平不错)去日本只是为了做生意,但仍然讨厌日本,这是一个很不友好的国家
Same here. I also lived in Osaka and really liked it. I miss Osaka so much.
我也在大阪生活过,真的很喜欢那里,我很想念大阪
Osaka sounds like an amazing place.
And i personally dig okinawa a lot too.
Im doing my best to learn the language, so in the future i hope to be able to get a job in japan and fulfill that dream lol
大阪听上去是一个很不错的地方,我个人也很喜欢冲绳,我正在努力学习日语,所以未来我希望可以在日本找到一份工作,实现自己的梦想,哈哈
Not really, you're probably lucky, but japanese people tend to be very racist and xenophobic, they're pretty proud of the little ethnicity diversity of the country and want to keep it that way, so they can be pretty hostile to anyone who's not Japanese
并不是这样的,你或许是运气比较好,但日本人往往是非常种族主义和仇外的,他们为自己国家高度同质化而感到骄傲,并希望可以一直保持这种状态,所以他们对外国人充满敌意。
I lived in Japan for 5 years and the color schemes in schools, work, houses, and even walking along the sidewalks are depressing.
我在日本生活了五年,学校、公司、房子甚至是人行道上的配色都让人感到压抑。
I lived in Japan two and a half years and loved it. Yeah, there were frustrations, but overall it was great. It's cleaner, safer, with more trustworthy honourable people than anywhere.
我在日本生活了两年半,非常喜欢日本。是的,我在日本也遇到过挫折和沮丧,但总体来说这里的生活还是很不错的。日本更加干净,安全,有着比任何地方都值得信赖和可敬的人。
This actually applies to moving to any new place. The novelty wears off and the honeymoon ends. Then everything is negative, irritating, or dull. Eventually we get to accept things the way they are.
其实我们对任何新地方的感觉都是这样的,当新鲜感褪去,蜜月也就结束了,所有一切给人的感觉都是这么的消极,讨厌和枯燥。最终我们接受了事物原本的面目。
This is true for every country. We all need to adjust to be able to fit in the society
每个国家都是这样的,我们都需要调整,以适应这个社会
I lived in Japan for 3 years. It was ok to me. I'm tall and pretty strong so most of the people just left me alone. I managed to help some people while I was there who were in trouble. Made a few friends.
我在日本生活过三年,对我来说在日本的生活是不错的。我长得又高又壮,所以大部分人都不会来打扰我,当我在那里的时候,设法帮助了一些有困难的人。我交到了一些朋友。
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I spent a year in Japan. I had sooo much fun and made some amazing friends that I’m still in contact with. I love Japan and have visited a few times since and will continue to visit for my entire life.
我在日本生活过一年的时间,过的很开心,交到了一些很不错的朋友,至今依然保持着联系,我喜欢日本,从那以后,我又去了几次日本,而且接下来的人生中我还会继续到日本去。
I have always wanted to move to Japan. I know its a lot different from the US. I respect and understand the culture. I love all things Japanese.
我一直想要搬到日本去,我知道日本和美国有着很大的不同,我尊重并理解日本文化,我喜欢日本的所有一切。
While I’m not a traveler myself, the owner of the company i worked for travelled extensively for both business and vacations. He once told me that out of all the places he visited, Japan was the only place he felt unwelcome.
我本人并不是一个旅行者,我工作的那家公司的老板在出差和度假期间去过很多的地方,有一次他和我说,在他去过的所有地方里面,日本是唯一让他感到不受欢迎的地方。
Yes that’s true Japanese people don’t like people from other countries living there
是的,日本人不喜欢其他国家的人在日本生活
Most people really underestimate just how different different cultures are.
大多数人都低估了不同文化之间的差异。