QA问答：印度人才流失的原因是什么？（下）
What are the reasons for brain drain in India?
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人才流失的原因：
1、缺乏就业机会使毕业生移民到能让他们成功的地方。
2、相同工作的低工资也引发了这一过程。
3、政治结构中的政治不稳定为人才外流创造了有利条件。
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What are the reasons for brain drain in India?
印度人才流失的原因是什么？
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Brain drain can be contented as draining of talented or skilled people in a country, who choose to use their talent or skill for another country for self betterment.
Brain drain issue in India is gaining a huge popularity now a days. There are plenty of reasons and proofs for the topic.
Reasons:-
1)Lack of proper pay scale for talent.
India people are paid according to their degrees not according to their talent or hardwork, at some point of time people tend to understand that he needs to be paid better, so he starts searching for employer who pays him better.people with 10–15 years of experience are easily welcomed by foriegn companies to work for them
2)misuse of designation titles by some startups.
As startup culture is growing in India, same way misuse of titles are also growing in India by startups.
3)false promise for sake of votes by political parties.
I dont think i need to tell in detail about this.
4)lack of public infrastructure.
No need of explanation, slow speed internet or availability of high speed internet which is unaffordable by middle class people.
Roads with potholes
Bribe taking govt officials
Offhour powercuts
Lack of proper working conditions
Over crowded trains/busses
Cleanliness in govt hospitals
5)Typical Indian judging mentality
6)caste based reservation system rather than financial bases reservation system
7)typical time consuming govt works
People have to stand in Q for couple of hours just to get buss pass,this frustrates some people who value time.
moral ethics of some individuals to give back something for his country,so its upto him/her whether they want to build their career in India or abroad
Ps-all the above are my personal opinions
Thanks
人才外流可以指一个国家有才能的或专业技能的人才的外流，他们选择将自己的才能或技能，用于另一个国家以实现自我提升。
如今，印度的人才流失问题越来越受关注。关于这个话题有很多原因和证据。
原因：
1） 缺乏合适的人才薪酬标准。
印度人的薪水是根据他们的学位而不是根据他们的能力或努力来决定的，在某些时候，人们倾向于认为自己应该得到更好的报酬，所以他开始寻找给他更好报酬的雇主。外国公司很欢迎有10-15年工作经验的人为他们工作
2） 一些初创公司滥用头衔。
随着初创企业文化在印度的发展，初创企业对头衔的滥用也在增长。
3） 为了政党的选票而做出的虚假承诺。
我不认为我需要详细地讲述这件事。
4） 缺乏公共基础设施。
不需要解释，不需要低速互联网，也不需要中产阶级负担不起的高速互联网。
坑坑洼洼的道路
贿赂政府官员
非工作时间断电
缺乏适当的工作条件
拥挤的火车/公共汽车
政府医院的卫生问题
5） 典型的印度评判心态
6） 以种姓为基础的保留制度而非财政基础的保留制度
7） 典型的耗时长的政府工作
人们不得不站上几个小时才能拿到公交通行证，这让一些重视时间的人感到沮丧。
有些人的道德操守是为了回报国家，因此，他们是想在印度还是国外发展自己的事业，这取决于他/她自己。
以上都是我的个人看法。
谢谢！
I can tell you few reasons. Lack of respect and acknowledgement being the predominant role player.
People say we got independence in 1947 and we celebrate it each year, by getting a holiday, flying kites, burning firecrackers and by getting small flags pinned to our shirts by strangers on roads. (I love it how ironically none of the way of celebration is any productive for the country). So coming to the point, I like to think I have decent enough brain with good enough skills and I am student at one of the prestigious institute of the country. But I get screwed up each and every single day by number of people, authorities, bank clerks, security gaurds and even by the cleaning guys of my locality. If you talk to every single one of them about politics, every single one of them irrespective of how educated they are, will tell you how govt. is screwed up and that’s why we are not developing. But the true reason that I think is lack of patriotism and mutual respect. No no. I am not talking about patriotism where u get to stand up in cinema halls before a movie. I am talking about the one where you are concerned that your actions affect the whole nation. For example if you start your 10′o clock job at 10:20, that is one action where you just pulled your country back by 20 mins.
我可以告诉你几个原因。缺乏尊重和认可是主要的原因。
人们说我们在1947年获得了独立，我们每年都庆祝独立，通过放假、放风筝、燃放鞭炮，以及在路上让陌生人把小旗别在我们的衬衫上。（我喜欢这件具有讽刺意味的事情：所有的庆祝方式对这个国家都没有任何成效）。说到这里，我常常认为我有足够好的头脑和足够好的技能，我是这个国家一所著名学院的学生。但我每天都被很多人、当局、银行职员、保安人员，甚至我所在地区的清洁工搞得一团糟。如果你和他们中的每一个人谈论政治，他们中的每一个人都会告诉你政府是如何搞砸的，这就是我们没有发展的原因。但我认为真正的原因是缺乏爱国主义和相互尊重。不，不，我说的爱国主义，不是去电影院看爱国主义电影。我说的是你要意识到你的行为会影响到整个国家。例如，如果你在10:20开始你10点钟的就应该开始的工作，这样一个行为，你就会把你的国家向后拉了20分钟。
In my campus there is a small hospital where the doctor comes in late. And they have unofficial tea break every now and then. They will give you medicines without proper diagnosis (infact even without touching). Thankfully there aren’t too many serious cases but hey, they are a doctors for godsake. When asked, staff will tell you that it’s a govt institute and so hospitals will work as in govt style.
Then I find sweepers of the hostel smoking below the stairs where they give a small dose of smoke to every single student crossing those stairs. When asked they just lie to my face. That there is no cigarette (actually its a bidi). And hey who am I to say if I can’t say anything to my fellow students to stop smoking.
Then I will find that the dining mess workers intentionally serve less food with some limitations in quantity so that they and the whole staff can get free food from my money. Not that I don’t like them, but each semester fee amount is increasing by 1-2k. I am helpless because the person-in-charge bluntly told me to not waste his time and stop bothering him. In fact he intimidated me in a close room, so no proof and nothing. And I am helpless.
现在我只想谈谈我目前生活中的一些挣扎。
在我的学校里有一家小医院，医生经常迟到。他们偶尔会有非正式的茶歇时间。他们会在没有正确诊断的情况下给你药物（事实上，甚至没有触碰到你）。谢天谢地，没有太多严重的病例，但是，看在上帝的份上，他们是医生。当被问到时，工作人员会告诉你这是一个政府机构，所以医院会像政府机构一样工作。
然后我发现宿舍的清洁工在楼梯下吸烟，他们给每一个穿过楼梯的学生一点烟。当被问到时，他们就当着我的面撒谎，说没有香烟（实际上是电子烟）。嘿，我有什么资格去让我的同学戒烟呢？我无话可说。
然后我会发现餐厅的工作人员故意提供较少的食物，这样他们全体员工就可以从我的钱中获得免费食物。并不是说我不喜欢他们，但是，每个学期的费用都要增加1-2k。我很无助，因为负责人直截了当地告诉我不要浪费他的时间，不要再打扰他了。事实上，他在一个封闭的房间里恐吓我，但是没有证据，什么都没有。我很无助。
Not getting scholarship from last six months and paying all the bills on last saving that I did. Govt. officials handling the scholarships are too lazy or too loaded up with work to even reply to queries.
Family got stuck in a fraudulant case and had to pay a huge amount to get rid of the law system, where apparantly the biggest thieves were the lawyers themselves.
Not with a heavy build so anyone, i mean any single unknown guy can try to intimidate me or my family. It could be from bus, some other public transport or someone with his private vehicle.
Fellow colleagues screw me up behind back by stealing my work and trying to ruin my career with no one to listen to me.
Cannot marry my girlfriend/boyfriend from other cast because of social conventions that were set hundreds of years ago.
身居要职的人都卷入了巨额腐败。无法了解细节。
在过去的六个月里，我没有拿到奖学金，用我的存款支付了所有账单。处理奖学金的政府官员太懒或工作太繁重，甚至无法回答问题。
家人陷入了一个欺诈案件，不得不支付巨额费用以摆脱法律系统，显然最大的窃贼是律师本身。
我的意思是任何一个不知名的人都可以试图恐吓我或我的家人。它可能来自公共汽车、其他公共交通工具，或者开着他的私家车的人。
同僚们在背后诽谤我，偷走了我的工作，并试图在没有人听我说话的情况下毁掉我的事业。
由于几百年前的社会习俗，我不能和其他种性的女朋友/男朋友结婚。
My poor parents who had all their dreams stuck on me who gave all their lives so that I could be someone better are dissappointed. They are the ones who are the only reason for my success and I will always owe to them. I love my country. So dont get me wrong, but I have not felt freedom in long time. I can’t get help, as I am not strong and there are people who depend on me and my future. But I have to be silent until I am successful. One thing I know for sure I am nobody here. Just a sheep in crowd. Who will be intimidated by my so called brothers, but given an opportunity I would like to get rid of this hypocrisy, where people around me are the only barriar between me and success and even at the cost of them making me responsible for one more brain drain.
电信公司、银行、信用卡、购物中心、食品业、杂货店、一些假药、我的宿舍管理员、我所接触的大多数上级，每一个都让我感到无助。
我可怜的父母把他们所有的梦想都寄托在我身上，他们为了让我成为更好的人付出了他们的所有。他们是我成功的唯一原因，我将永远感谢他们。我爱我的国家。所以不要误会我，但我已经很久没有感觉到自由了。我不能得到帮助，因为我不强壮，有人依赖我和我的未来。但在我成功之前，我必须保持沉默。有一件事我可以肯定，我在这里是无名小卒，就像人群中的一只小绵羊，谁会被我所谓的兄弟们吓倒。如果给我一个机会，我想摆脱这种虚伪，我周围的人是我和成功之间唯一的障碍，他们让我为另一次的人才外流负责。
Lack of Patriotism. People didn't see country as mother. Not want to liquidate the debt of this country.
Reservation system. Talented people not get place that they deserve.
Education system. Poor quality education in primary school which go as it up to graduation.
Bad leaders. The politican not having the proper vision to lead the people in the right direction. Always looking for vote bank.
Last but not the least, people are money oriented, they saw the money as everything, though some contradiction is there, that people are not getting good salary, but if above four points would get solved then this will automatically mitigate.
1、缺乏爱国主义。人们不把国家看作母亲。不想清偿这个国家的债务。
2、保留系统。有才能的人得不到他们应得的位置。
3、教育系统。小学教育质量低下，一直持续到毕业。
4、糟糕的领导。政治家没有正确的眼光来领导人民走向正确的方向。他们只在意选票。
5、最后但是最重要的一点是，人们是以金钱为导向的，他们视金钱为一切，尽管存在一些矛盾，人们没有得到好的工资，但如果上述四点得到解决，那么这将自动缓解。
India is no country for wise men. It is overcrowded here and mostly not with pleasant people. To overcome the disadvantages of overpopulation we try to make it up for ourselves with unethical, rude and unpleasant ways. Most people don't have the patience or basic sense of civic duties to act in a civil way.
印度不是一个适合明智的人生活的国家。这里人满为患，大多数人都不喜欢这里。为了克服人口过剩的弊端，我们试图用不道德、粗鲁和令人不快的方式来弥补自己的不足。大多数人没有耐心或基本的公民责任感，无法以文明的方式行事。
If we are going to discuss about brain-drain then perhaps there is no-one, who would not want to stop it. But in my point of view it has to be stopped but not forcefully means I would like to say that you don't have the right to kill anyone's ability.
For example: Kalpana Chawla was keep ability to go on space but because of brain drain problem you didn't want allow her to go outside the country then I think that is wrong because you wants to kill her ability. Now in all over world everyone knows that Kalpana Chawla was the first Indian-American astronaut and first Indian woman in space.
But that doesn't mean that I allowed brain drain but I want to remove in such way that other person's also come here for job.
And many persons says that there is lack of money in India so brain drain arises.
But I want to give some data:
1. Indian coal allocation scam (10673 billion Rs.).
2. 2G Spectrum Scam (1766. 45 billion Rs.).
3. Karnataka Wakf Board Land Scam (2000 billion Rs.).
Now tell me India doesn't have money?
India has enough money for development of country and for stop the brain drain but the politician used it only for scam not for development.
"When one rupee was sent from central government then only 10 paisa are utilized in direct way. ".
--Rajiv Gandhi.
So I would say if corruption decreases from the country and politician works for the welfare of country not for own's welfare then definitely brain drain will be reduced.
如果我们要讨论人才外流，那么也许没有人不想阻止它。但在我看来，它必须被阻止，但不意味着你有干掉其他人的权利。
例如：卡尔帕纳·查拉有登上太空的能力，但由于不想人才流失，你不想让她出国，那么我认为这是错误的，因为你想扼杀她的能力。现在全世界的人都知道卡尔帕纳·查拉是第一位印度裔美国宇航员，也是第一位进入太空的印度女性。
但这并不意味着我允许人才外流，但我想以这样一种方式，让其他人也来这里工作。
许多人说，印度缺乏资金，因此人才外流。
但我想提供一些数据：
1.印度煤炭分配骗局（106730亿卢比）。
2.2G频谱诈骗（17664.5亿卢比）。
3.卡纳塔克邦Wakf董事会土地诈骗案（2000亿卢比）。
现在告诉我印度没有钱？
印度有足够的资金用于国家发展和阻止人才外流，但这些政客只是把这些钱用于骗局，而不是用于发展。
“当中央政府发送一卢比时，真正被使用的只有10派萨。”。
--拉吉夫·甘地。
所以我想说，如果腐败能从国家中减少，政治家为国家的福利而不是自己的福利工作，那么人才外流肯定会减少。
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Other than less money as a lot of people here have pointed out, let me add one more point and a major one (according to me).
Lack of interesting work.
US/UK or other developed nation has been sending their dirty jobs to India since ages. Earlier we used to take up call center jobs of other countries, now we take the back-end IT support for them. It's horrible and totally uninteresting.
We don't have any designing, conceptualization or thought process involved in our work. We get a set of instructions from them and we have to implement that by the coding standards given by them. There's no creativity involved. After a certain amount of time, it becomes horribly boring and that's when the engineer flips out and takes a rapid decision of doing an MBA and hoping desperately that in the managerial position the scenario will be different. No, it's not.
Then comes the depression and angst and we move to U.S. that atleast there we'll find something exciting to do.
So, for a person like me, who doesn't want to become an entrepreneur, the situation is very very sad.
除了这里很多人指出的没有钱之外，让我再补充一点和一个重要的问题（根据我的说法）。
缺乏有趣的工作。
长期以来，美国、英国或其他发达国家一直在向印度提供肮脏的工作。早些时候，我们曾从事其他国家的呼叫中心工作，现在我们为他们提供后端IT支持。这是可怕的，完全没有意思的工作。
我们的工作中没有任何设计、概念化或思维过程。我们从他们那里得到一组指令，我们必须按照他们给出的编码标准来实现。没有创造力。经过一段时间后，它变得非常无聊，这时工程师突然做出了一个快速的决定，要攻读MBA，并绝望地希望在管理岗位上情况会有所不同。但是，结果是一样的。
然后是大萧条和焦虑，我们搬到美国，至少在那里我们会发现一些令人兴奋的事情可以做。
所以，对于像我这样不想成为企业家的人来说，情况非常令人难过。
Causes of Brain Drain
Lack of employment makes graduates emigrate where they are highly successful.
Low salaries for the same jobs compared to the native country also initiates this process.
Political Instability in political structure creates conducive situation for Brain Drain.
Internal Conflicts like Communal conflicts often lead to war like situations affecting the overall stability.
Higher Studies also lure students who are unable to find the same in their respective countries. Such students generally never return back to their homeland.
Tax system of certain countries like high personal tax rate, including capital gains tax, and high corporate tax rate represent one the biggest cause of brain drain.
Better Opportunities and Facilities are also the cause of Brain Drain. These opportunities and facilities include ample funding, availability of jobs and encouraging entrepreneurial environment. Availability of work in high-skill occupations is well paid as compared to their counterparts who remained in their Native country
Outcome of Brain Drain
Loss of meager professionals in countries which are financially weak.
Brain drain threatens the economic prospects and competitiveness of an affected country. Diminished.labour force and migration of high income tax payers often results in missed opportunities, reduced growth, lower employment and reduced overall tax revenue.
Creates more Inequality in the world as advanced economies receive further benefits and the backward economies continue to be at the receiving end.
Brain drain is loss to countries of origin, because it deprives these countries from the innovations of their professionals. Such countries have become culturally and technologically dependent on the West.
人才流失的原因：
1、缺乏就业机会使毕业生移民到能让他们成功的地方。
2、相同工作的低工资也引发了这一过程。
3、政治结构中的政治不稳定为人才外流创造了有利条件。
4、内部冲突，如社区冲突，往往导致类似战争的局势，影响整体稳定。
5、高等教育也吸引了那些在各自国家找不到相同教育的学生。这样的学生通常不会回到他们的祖国。
6、某些国家的税收制度，如高个人税率（包括资本利得税）和高公司税率，是造成人才流失的最大原因之一。
7、更好的机会和设施也是人才流失的原因。这些机会和设施包括充足的资金、就业机会和鼓励创业的环境。与留在本国的同行相比，高技能职业的工作报酬较高。
人才外流的后果：
1、在经济疲软的国家，缺乏专业人才。
2、人才外流威胁到受影响国家的经济前景和减少了他们的竞争力。劳动力和高收入纳税人的移民往往导致错过机会、增长放缓、就业率下降和总体税收减少。
3、随着发达经济体获得更多的好处，而落后经济体继续处于接受端，世界上的不平等加剧。
4、人才外流是原籍国的损失，因为它剥夺了这些国家专业人员的创新能力。这些国家在文化和技术上都依赖西方。
India is still a ‘developing country’ because of this ‘brain drain’. Genius Indian brains are migrating to developed countries like USA, China etc. where technology are well developed and established. Well I am a software engineer in India, I have seen this thing in IT also. Indian has just few product developing companies as compared to other countries. Reasons : Stupid policies, less opportunities etc.
由于这种“人才外流”，印度仍然是一个“发展中国家”。天才印度人才正在向美国、中国等发达国家迁移，这些国家的技术非常发达和成熟。我是印度的一名软件工程师，我也在其中看到了这一点。与其他国家相比，印度只有很少的产品开发公司。原因：愚蠢的政策，更少的机会等。
There is POLITICS and more POLITICS at every workplace.
The process of politics is so vicious that people kind of make holes in the ship they are traveling so that the other people will drown and since they know they made a hole they will jump ship before it happens.
每一个工作场所都有政治和更多的政治。
政治的过程是如此邪恶，以至于人们在他们旅行的船上挖了个洞，这样其他人就会淹死，因为他们知道自己挖了个洞，所以会在事情发生之前跳船。
I think there are two reasons in the order of priority :
Lack of opportunities in India. For high end jobs; research, IT innovation and businesses, finance management etc the opportunities to have a fulfilling and enriching career and also earn handsomely are significantly better abroad vs in India.
Significant improvement in quality of life outside in terms of everyday life — infrastructure, transport, clean air, better education, safe and less crowded environment, less corruption etc etc.
我认为按优先顺序有两个原因：
印度缺乏机会。高端职位、研究、IT创新和商业、财务管理等——与印度相比，国外有更好的机会获得充实、丰富的职业生涯和丰厚的收入。
在日常生活方面，户外生活质量显著提高——基础设施、交通、清洁的空气、更好的教育、安全和不那么拥挤的环境、更少的腐败等。
According to me the main cause for brain drain are Indian parents as they don't allow their children to choose their career of their choice. As a result,it leads to wastage of human talent. Is life only all about earning money? Is there only two jobs left in India; doctor and engineer? Jobs like archeology,wildlife etc should be encouraged
据我所知，人才外流的主要原因是印度父母，因为他们不允许孩子选择自己想选择的职业。结果导致人才流失。生活只是为了挣钱吗？印度只剩下两份工作；医生和工程师？应该鼓励从事考古、野生动物等工作。