QA:日本还是技术领先的国家吗?
Is Japan the leading country in technology?译文简介
网友:日本现在能否恢复过去的技术优势是一个很大的问题。未来的五到七年,中国和美国将要竞争世界技术霸主的地位。在分析了人工智能和量子计算在内的十种技术的专利申请数据之后,《日经新闻》2017年得出结论认为中国将在其中九个领域称雄。
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日本还是技术领先的国家吗?
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Nope. Now it is a big question if Japan could restore its former technological supremacy:
China and the U.S. are competing to be the world's technological master 5–7 years from now. After analyzing patent application data in 10 categories, including artificial intelligence and quantum computing, in 2017 Nikkei has concluded that China will reign supreme in nine categories:
日本现在能否恢复过去的技术优势是一个很大的问题。未来的五到七年,中国和美国将要竞争世界技术霸主的地位。在分析了人工智能和量子计算在内的十种技术的专利申请数据之后,《日经新闻》2017年得出结论认为中国将在其中九个领域称雄。
I am a little surprised that Europe does not place higher in quantum computing. They have a long history in it, and are currently very active (Germany, France, Italy, The Netherlands, Austria, Scandinavia). Maybe individual countries alone can’t make the list.
Also Australia-New Zealand have a long history and are quite active.
The US is leading in this field, no doubt.
令我感到有点惊讶的是欧洲在量子计算方面排名没有那么高。他们在这方面有着悠久的历史,目前德国,法国,意大利,荷兰,奥地利和斯堪的纳维亚在该领域非常的活跃。或许单独一个国家无法上榜。而且澳大利亚和新西兰一直以来都在研究量子计算,而且相当活跃。美国是该领域的领导者,这是毫无疑问的。
Have to wonder though, just how different would that infographic be if all of the EU member states’ patent totals in all of these fields were added up and counted collectively, rather than only counted individually on a state-by-state basis? Would there be any of those fields in which the EU wasn’t at least in the top three? And how many of these fields would it be in first place for…?
我想知道如果欧盟国家在这些领域的专利数量合在一起计算,而不是按单独国家计算的话,这张排名会有多大的不同?在哪些领域欧盟无法进入前三?又在哪些领域,欧盟可以成为第一名?
Misleading. These are just patents. Take the Covid vaccine. China’s vaccines were old technology and nowhere near as advanced as the US/German vaccines and not as good as the British/Russian/Indian vaccines.
这个排名有误导性。这些只是按照专利进行排名的而已。以新冠疫苗为例,中国的疫苗使用的是旧技术,没有美国和德国疫苗的先进,甚至连英国俄罗斯和印度的疫苗都比不上。
The Chinese vaccines appear to confer better protection against severe infection, hospitalization and death, as well as conferring true long-term immunity without the need for a limitless number of booster jabs. Sure, the US/German MRNA vaccines, and the genetically-engineered British/Russian/Indian vaccines (utilizing only small portions of the COVID-19 genome), may well be “more advanced”. But looking at the big pharmaceutical corporations who’ve produced them, what’s their highest priority- to end the COVID-19 pandemic, and save lives? Or to maximize their profit margins, and value of their shares on the stock market?
中国的疫苗似乎对严重感染、住院和死亡有更好的保护,并能带来真正的长期免疫力,而不需要无数次的加强注射。当然,美国和德国的MRNA疫苗和英国俄罗斯印度的基因工程疫苗或许要更加的先进。但看看生产这些疫苗的大型制药企业,它们的最高优先项是什么,是结束新冠疫情拯救生命吗?还是说为了让自己的利润以及股票市值最大化?
Get the Pfizer vaccine if you like.
Myriam Bourla, wife of Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, died on Wednesday (10/11/2021) from complications related to Pfizer's (BNT) COVID-19 vaccine.
The mRNA technology is not a mature technology. Until the COVID-19 outbreak, such a technique remained at the experimental stage. Such techniques, untested by extensive experimental and clinical data, come with a host of unknown risks.
China's inactivated vaccine technology may be older, but it is mature enough that humans have been using it for decades to avoid enough risks.
如果你那么想要辉瑞疫苗,那就去打好了
2021年11月10日,辉瑞CEO阿尔伯特·布尔拉的妻子米利亚姆·波拉因辉瑞疫苗并发症去世(译注:这个应该是网上的假新闻)
MRNA技术并不成熟。在新冠疫情爆发的时候,这个技术依然处于实验阶段。这个技术未经过广泛的实验和临床数据检验,伴随着一系列未知的风险。
中国灭活疫苗技术或许比较陈旧,但这项技术非常成熟,已经用了几十年的时间,可以避免相当多的风险。
Traditional vaccines actually win the overall cost-effectiveness game.
BTW: the more advanced, the more risky… we don’t even know how would it play in 5 years.
传统疫苗实际上更具有成本效益。顺便说一下,越先进的疫苗就越危险。我们根本就不知道五年之后会怎么样。
Inactivated Virus Vaccines is considered safer and more effective on people with compromised immune system.
灭活疫苗对免疫系统受损的人更安全更有效
Well, it's been a long time since the last person died of covid in China. ……I'm there.
中国已经很久没有新冠死亡案例出现了。我就在中国
Would you know if one did? Its not particularly hard for an authoritarian government to hide information .
如果有人死了,你会知道吗?对于一个威权政府来说,隐藏信息并不是什么很难的事情。
How are your lockdowns going?
你们那封锁的怎么样了?
USA, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are the original technological leaders
China is just copied all of them and sold it in lower prices
美国,德国,日本和韩国是最初的技术领导者。中国只是CX了他们的技术,然后再以极低的价格出售产品
We all stand on the shoulders of giants, without exception.
In addition, before the Birth of the United States, China's original technologies include printing, compass, gunpowder, paper and so on. As descendants, we enjoy the creation and invention of our predecessors, but we will not rest forever.
我们无一例外都是站在巨人的肩膀上成功的。而且,在美国诞生之前,中国就发明了印刷术,造纸术,火药和指南针等技术。作为后人,我们现在享受着先人的发明创造,但我们永远不会停下脚步
Once upon a time, the German and British accused US of stealing their technologies.
Then the US accused the Japanese and Korean of stealing US technologies.
Now, others are accusing China of stealing their technologies.
These accusations never end.
Just wait, the day will come when China says XYZ copied China.
很久之前,英国人和德国人指责美国人盗窃自己的技术
然后美国人指责日本人和韩国人偷自己的技术
现在其他人又指责中国偷他们的技术
这样的指责永远不会结束
等着吧,总有一天,中国也会指责某某国家偷中国的技术
This is based on patent applications, not actual products?…
这是基于专利的申请数量,而不是实际的产品?
How many products in your life ain’t made in China? Compare that with the number of USA products you have got.
在你的生活中,有多少产品不是中国制造的?对比一下中国产品数量和美国产品的数量就知道了
In terms of manufacturing capacity, there’s no debate, but the only high tech Chinese developed product I own is a Mavic 2 drone.
Lower and mid tech manufacturing is mostly about labor and material cost. This is where China has lots of experience and presently excels at.
I am not aware of any other consumer product where Chinese R&D is considered cutting edge.
就制造能力而言,中国的确是很厉害,但我手上有的是中国研发的唯一高科技产品就是Mavic 2无人机。中、低技术制造业主要涉及劳动力和材料成本。中国在这个方面拥有很多的经验而且很擅长。但我不知道中国还研发了其他哪些高端的消费类产品。
You can’t compare one country with multiples.
Does Japanese provide top notch smart phones?
Does USA produce high speed trains?
Does Germany produce 5G network equipments?
你不能拿中国一个国家和多个国家进行对比?
日本可以生产顶级的智能手机吗?美国可以生产高铁吗?德国可以生产5G网络设备吗?
At last a true challenger to US (after USSR) has emerged.
苏联之后,美国真正的挑战者终于出现了