网友讨论:为什么有那么多的越南劳工死在了日本?
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网友:作为日本人,我为诸多日本企业对待他们的方式感到羞愧。我为这些人以及所有其他国家的工人感到难过......
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为什么有那么多的越南劳工死在了日本?
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As Japanese,I’m ashamed that lots of Japanese companies are treating them like this. I feel sorry for these guys and all of workers from other countries
作为日本人,我为诸多日本企业对待他们的方式感到羞愧。我为这些人以及所有其他国家的工人感到难过
I don't get it! Why Japanese Society treat white People like god but other Asian People so badly?
We are fellow Asians!!! In Western Media (Hollywood) they don't respect Asians. Didn't Japanese People realize this issue?
This is so pathetic. I don't get it bro...
我不明白,为什么日本社会把白人当成了上帝,但对亚洲人却那么恶劣?
我们是亚洲同胞。西方媒体(好莱坞)不尊重亚洲人。日本人难道没有意识到这个问题吗?这真的很可悲,我不明白为什么会这样
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@Tam Huynh
Cuz they were conquered by Whites. Almost nuked to oblivion. Hence the genetic kowtow to Whitey.
因为他们被白人征服了,几乎被核武器给摧毁了,因此他们生来就对白人卑躬屈膝
WHATTA SHAME!!!!
真是耻辱
America is also bad the poor are treated worse then dogs if I had money to move I would
美国也很糟糕,穷人的待遇连狗都不如,如果我有钱的话,一定会搬走
Percival Hans in the western media, they make fun of Asian people base on the stereotypes but that changing and has been for awhile! But very slowly.
在西方媒体上,他们根据刻板印象取笑亚洲人,但这种现象正在发生变化,虽然缓慢,但有一段时间了。
it´s not the japanese companies, it´s the whole culture.
这不是日本企业的问题,而是日本整个文化有问题
@Tam Huynh They´re still racist and despective towards us, and treat us as inferior to them.
他们仍然是种族主义者,鄙视我们,认为我们低人一等
In Malaysia too, they require local to work like a cow and no overtime paid,
在马来西亚也是一样,他们要求当地人像牛一样的工作,但不给加班费
They worship white men like a god
If u dont understand their language ,they will mock you. most of japanese ppl has double faces.they pretend to kind,polite on others.u can see their truly faces if u are work in service area.
他们把白人当成上帝一样的崇拜
如果你不懂日语,就会受到嘲笑,大部分日本人都有两副面孔。他们对别人假装友好、有礼貌。如果你在服务领域工作的话,就会发现他们的真面目
Actually lots of Vietnamese people live in Japan and doesn't care with the social rules therefore it makes bad images for some Japanese people. For examples, my apartment was full of Vietnamese people and they littering, take out the garbages whenever they want and doesn't even care to separate the garbages. If you live in Japan you will need to separate the garbages into organic, non-organic, metal, plastics, pet bottle, paper all of those things properlly and wait until the garbage day to come. whenever I go to work in the morning I can even smell the garbage around 30 meter from my apartement.
实际上,有很多的越南人在日本工作,但他们不关心日本的社会规则,因此给一些日本人留下了很不好的印象。比如,我住的公寓里面有很多的越南人,他们随时随地的乱扔垃圾,垃圾也从不分类。如果你在日本生活,那么你需要将垃圾分类为有机垃圾、非有机垃圾、金属垃圾、塑料垃圾、宠物瓶垃圾、纸张垃圾等等,然后等待垃圾日的到来。每当我早上去上班的时候,甚至可以闻到离我公寓30米左右的垃圾的味道。
It's not companies, it's Japanese PEOPLE.
不是日本企业的问题,而是日本人的问题
5:09 "Some Japanese coworkers would finish smoking their cigarettes and throw the butts at our faces"
Clearly better education doesn't make you a better person
5:09“一些日本同事抽完烟后,会把烟头扔到我们脸上。”
显然,就算接受了更好的教育也不能让你成为更好的人
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chances are both parties are uneducated. most vietnamese labors who have to work overseas have not graduated high school. low skill labors i mean.
有可能是双方都没有受过什么教育,大部分不得不出国工作的越南人甚至高中都没有毕业。我的意思是他们是低技能劳动力
@Altair Dont talk anything you are not sure. The vietnamese labors can talk decent Japanese, they are not uneducated.
没把握的话就不要说。越南劳工的日语说的很好,他们不是没有受过教育的人。
@M T lmfao even a non Japanese can tell the level of japanese being spoken here. Knowing some basic conversational japanese is not "educated". Any tourist is capable of the same thing.
就算不是日本人也能看出来他们的日语水平是怎么样的。知道日语中的一些基本会话并不代表你就受过教育。任何游客同样也可以做到
Japan is well educated people and all about respect, but treated foreigners workers like slave and animals, there is something WRONG here.
日本人受过良好的教育,尊重他人,但却把外国劳工当作奴隶和动物一样对待。这里面一定有问题
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The Japanese are the most racist on earth. They seriously think that they are the best in the whole world and have wake up call after visiting other countries .
日本人是世界上最种族主义的,他们真的认为自己是世界上最优秀的,在访问了其他国家后,才会清醒过来
those japanese "coworkers" could be uneducated as well that is why they act rude to cover their insecurity
那些日本同事可能也没有受过教育,为了掩盖自己的不安全感,所以才会表现得那么粗鲁
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Racist bastards
种族主义的混蛋
What a shame to treat these foreign workers in this despicable manner?
以这种卑劣的方式对待这些外国工人,真是可耻。
籾川弘和
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如果你讨厌日本,那就不要去那里,那是他们的国家
9,081 hate crimes against Asians in the U.S. reported between March 2020 and June 2021, 63% of victims are women.
Ethnicity of Victims.
Chinese, 43.5%.
Korean 16.8%.
Filipino 9.1%.
Japanese 8.6%.
Vietnamese 8.2%.
2020年3月到2021年6月之间,美国发生了9081起针对亚裔的仇恨犯罪,其中63%的受害者是亚裔女性
受害者种族比例:华裔43.5%,韩裔16.8%,菲律宾裔9.1%,日本裔8.6%,越南裔8.2%
I am also working in Japan for 2 years now and I feel very bad because I have chosen Japan, thinking that the future will change when I move to Japan, but it's really not what I thought. If I could choose again I wouldn't choose Japan and would stay in my country of Vietnam
我现在在日本工作了两年,我的感觉很不好,我在选择日本的时候,认为一旦搬到了日本,我的未来就会有所改变,但情况和我所想的并不一样。如果我可以再次选择的话,我不会选日本,我会呆在自己的国家越南
My country (Indonesia), was once colonized by Dutch for 350 years, then Japanese took it over for 3,5 years only. But there's a saying "it's better to be colonized by Dutch for 350 years rather than Japanese for 3,5 years" they were so cruel when it comes to money and business. They tortured and forced people to work to death. They have killed thousands of people
我的国家印尼被荷兰殖民了350年,后来又被日本殖民了三五年。但印尼有句话是这么说的,被荷兰殖民350年也比被日本殖民三五年要强“。日本人在搜刮财富上面实在是太凶狠了。他们折磨并强迫别人工作到死。而且还杀了成千上万的人。
They were so cruel to chinese too ...their history is too dark
他们对中国人一样也很残忍,他们的历史很黑暗
looking back at japan history thing are realy have a bad reputasion like rape,murder,mass genocide and war crime but i think they are very sorry about it
回顾日本历史,真的是臭名昭著,充满了强奸、谋杀、大规模种族灭绝等战争罪行,但我认为他们现在对此已经深感抱歉了
I guess cruelty inside their culture couldn't be erased at all.
我认为他们文化中的残酷本性是无法消除的
not thousands but i believe at least is more than hundred thousands. only in one small place (mandor) near my place took 21000 lives (japan claim only 1000)
不是上万,我相信至少有十万以上的印尼人死在了日本人手里,在我家乡一个小地方就有21000人死在了日本人手里,但日本声称自己在那里只杀了1000人
Here in Philippines too face so much cruelty in the hands of Japanese soldiers.
日本士兵对菲律宾人也非常的残忍
same in Korea.. Japanese had killed lots of people and bled tons of blood of Korean for about 35years colonization. We still remember but they forgot what they had done....
朝鲜也是一样,在35年的殖民统治中,日本杀了很多的朝鲜人,流了很多的血。我们依然记得,但他们自己已经忘了
But the funny thing is i think half of teenagers in south east asians are weeaboo lol
但有趣的是,我认为东南亚一半青少年都很哈日,哈哈
So because of that, japan was bomb by usa?
所以美国就是因为这个原因才去轰炸日本的吗?
I'm indonesian, and i know who is colonizing us know.
我是印尼人,现在我知道谁曾殖民过我们了
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They also starve,like,3 million Vietnamese to dead (1945).
1945年,他们还饿死了300万越南人
I’m a Vietnamese and I know a lot of people around me who is maybe my classmate at the primary/secondary school or even my relatives are planing and spending so much money to seek a chance to come to Japan for working as a worker. I realized that coming to Japan for work even if that is a low-level job is also proud in my hometown. They completely don’t aware of the real-life in Japan. They’ve just dreamed of a new life in a modern country with a job with a high salary, and they can earn much money to send to their families. But the reality is… as we have seen…
我是越南人,我知道周围有很多人,像是小学初中同学或自己亲戚,都正在计划花钱找机会到日本打工。我知道,去日本即便只能找到低端工作,也足以在家乡扬眉吐气了。他们完全不知道日本的真实生活是怎么样的。他们只是梦想着可以在现代国家拥有一份高工资的工作,开启新的生活,然后赚很多的钱,再寄回家里。但现实却是,,,,正如我们所见到的那样,,,,
Actually, the reality is as hell...
I'm also working in Japan and clearly understand the environment working in here :D
Hope that one-day there is no VNese guy who has to working abroad with terrible bosses, bad companie.
But it seems like dream will never come true :(
实际上,现实就是地狱。我也在日本工作,很清楚这里的工作环境是怎么样的。希望有一天,越南人不用再不得不出国替那些黑心老板和企业工作
但似乎这是一个永远都无法实现的梦一样。
Same what Philipines Indonesian also think like that
菲律宾人和印尼人也这样想
These are the dark sides of japan that the media doesn’t want to talk about.
日本的这些阴暗面,媒体都没有提
Actually, it reveals on the Japanese TV shows for few months ago. then we citizens were really surprised and regarded as big issue in Japan.
Now government is beginning to move for it, but I can't be able to forgive this status.
实际上,几个月以前,日本电视台就揭露了这种情况。然后我们公民真的很惊讶,认为这是日本的一个问题。
现在政府正在开始采取行动,但我还是不能原谅这种状况
True every country has them. some know how to Keep it a secret
没错,每个国家都有阴暗面,只是有些国家知道如何保守秘密
There's worse in other Asian countries.
亚洲其他国家更糟
They should go to South Korea, ploblem solved
他们应该去韩国,这样问题就解决了
@super nova Already too many alien workers here including illegally staying ones.
韩国已经有很多的外国劳工了,包括非法滞留的
including its history
日本历史也很黑暗
I believe things on this video is a truth, my younger brother had returned from Japan after 3 years, he have became an other person and more rude after contacted some bad japanese guys in his company.
我相信视频里面的事情是真的,我弟弟在日本呆了三年后回来了,在和他们公司的不良日本人接触后,就像变了一个人一样,非常的粗鲁。
My cousin went to work abroad in Japan 5 years ago. In many factories, workers-Vietnamese are often hitted by boss and managers. There are many dark sides in Japan. Don't look at the book by it's cover.
我表哥五年前去日本工作。他在许多工厂都呆过,越南工人经常被老板和经理殴打,日本有很多的阴暗面,不要被它的外表所蒙蔽了
Maybe only vietnamse. I heard many indonesian workers doesnt have bad exprience like that.
或许只有越南人,我听说许多印尼的工人都没有这样的遭遇
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When I was young, I have a dream to work in Japan because my friends were made great money from there. Today, I am so grateful that my dream have never been come true.
我年轻的时候,曾有过一个梦想,那就是去日本工作,因为我的朋友在那里赚了很多的钱,现在我很庆幸自己的梦想没有实现。
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Heart bleed for Vietnamese brothers. Avoid to go to Japan. Don't die in foriegn land for nothing.
为越南兄弟感到痛心,尽量不要去日本,不要白白死在国外。
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Be strong, my Asean brothers!
I heard that factories are going to your country, Vietnam. Hope that your country will prosper after foreigners put their factories in your country! Love from Philippines
坚强点,我的东盟兄弟
我听说很多工厂正在向你们越南转移,希望外国企业在你们国家设厂之后,你们国家可以繁荣起来。来自菲律宾的爱
Japanese government even used Vietnamese trainees for Fukushima clean-up.
日本政府甚至在福岛核电站的清理工作中使用了越南培训生
I don't know why they are that harsh to Vietnamese brothers/sisters. Vietnam is a very nice country I even like to work and live in Vietnam if I had a chance.
我不知道他们为什么要对越南人那么苛刻。越南是一个非常不错的国家,如果有机会的话,我甚至想去越南工作生活
They didn't mention why or how they all died though...?
但他们都没有提到越南人的死因
I’m living here as a foreigner and worked with Vietnamese people. most of them are rude and don’t follow the rules and surprisingly they didn’t even know it to themselves.
我是在日本生活的外国人,和越南人一起工作,大部分越南人都很粗鲁,不遵守规则,奇怪的是,他们自己都不知道这一点
So sad to hear these young Vietnamese men and women losing their lives to help support their families back home. RIP
这些年轻的越南人为支持自己在越南的家人而失去了自己的生命,听到这些我很难过
Vietnamese people are very hard working people. I see them a lot in Poland, they open a convenient store and work 16 hours per day, 7 days per week. The living conditions in Vietnam is harsh, that’s why they’re immigrating everywhere. I went to Vietnam I was shocked how bribery and corruption is normalized in Vietnam. Good luck Vietnam.
越南人非常的勤劳,我在波兰见过很多的越南人,他们在波兰开便利店,每周七天,每天工作十六个小时。越南的生活条件很恶劣,所以他们才到处移民。我去过越南 ,被那里盛行的腐败给震惊了,祝你好运,越南
Someone says There's no discrimination in Japan
But sadly I have to say that's completely wrong
Japan is one of the most insensitive country about discrimination
有人说日本没有歧视,但遗憾的是,我必须要说这是完全错误的,日本是世界上对歧视最不敏感的国家之一。