韩国人怎么看越南人？
How do the Koreans view the Vietnamese?
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之前我们看了越南人看韩国人，现在让我们看看韩国人怎么看越南人吧。
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韩国人怎么看越南人？
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I am glad to answer this question, I believe I know Vietnam and Vietnamese in general more than most of Koreans do - I’ve stayed in Ho Chi Minh where my father currently lives in.Therefore, I might have somewhat biased opinions (towards positives) on this issue, but I will try to be obxtive as much as possible.1. Innocent and kind people:Koreans think that Vietnamese people are mostly hospitable, and helpful. I felt exactly the same when I visited Vietnam, people smile more often, and don’t hesitate to help other people (especially to foreigners).It is a bit different for most Koreans, people are rather be cold-minded, goal-oriented, very much individualistic (self-centered), busy, and competitive each other. However, it’s not because Korean culture or Koreans themselves are like that, but because many of Koreans live in the cities - 2. Great foods (ever!):The Vietnamese traditional “Pho” is liked by all the Koreans, I would say. Vietnamese foods are very similar to Korean dishes, we love noodle soups, sea foods, and vegetables. Even though I like all the Asian foods in general, I can’t imagine eating Chinese, Singaporean, Thai, Malaysian, and Japanese foods for every meals, but if it is Vietnamese foods, there wouldn’t be any problems.3. Deligence:We know that Vietnamese are very diligent people as much as Koreans are. Both societies were heavily influenced by “Confucianism culture” in the society in general. Accordingly, diligence is one of the most important virtues, both people tend to pursue it.4. One of the most prospective societies:There is no doubt on this. I would say all the Koreans will agree that Vietnam is the most promising country among developing societies. Due to this expectation, there are lots of “Korean money” invested into Vietnam, not only private, also many of public sectors.Many people wish we could share our know-hows on shaping, and developing the societies to Vietnam, and also wish Vietnam could become a fully developed society in the near future as we did. It might be partly due to the a sense of guilty from Vietnam war (we all know what Korean soldiers did to many of Vietnamese people…), and also a strong sense of kinship - we were also totally devastated by Korean war, and it took lots of efforts to build up society again.Negatives:Even though Vietnam is truly vibrant, and promising society, there are some negative characteristics as most of the people from a third world have (which I won’t mention here). However, those stereotypes exist not only in Korea. At least, those stereotypes towards Vietnamese (and other South East Asian countries…) exist in the two other countries I’ve ever lived as well - Australia and Switzerland.Also, Koreans normally don’t really care about those seriously in a daily life. As long as you respect other people, and behave in a well-mannered way, you will be respected equally. “Politeness” is very important virtue in Korea, people would not disregard you simply because of your nationality, ethnicity, or any kind of backgrounds.In general:Despite of a negative prejudice towards how Koreans think of Vietnamese here in this page, I would say Koreans have pretty much good impressions and a sense of kinship towards Vietnam in general.
我很高兴可以回答这个问题，我相信我比大多数韩国人更了解越南和越南人——我和我父亲目前居住在胡志明市。因此，我在回答这个问题上可能会有一些偏见（正面的），但我会尽量客观。
1.越南人天真善良：
韩国人认为越南人大多热情好客，乐于助人，我去越南时也有同样的感觉，人们经常微笑，并且毫不犹豫地帮助其他人（尤其是对外国人）。这与大多数韩国人不同，他们比较冷漠、过分在意结果、非常个人主义（以自我为中心）、忙碌且相互竞争。然而，并不是因为韩国文化或韩国人本身就是这样，而是因为很多韩国人生活在城市里。
2. 越南食物美味：
我想说，所有韩国人都喜欢越南的传统菜“Pho”。越南菜与韩国菜非常相似，我们喜欢面条、海鲜和蔬菜，虽然我喜欢所有的亚洲食物，但我无法想象每顿饭都吃中国菜、新加坡菜、泰国菜、马来西亚菜和日本菜是什么样子，但如果是越南菜，就不会有任何问题。
3.越南人勤奋：
我们知道越南人和韩国人一样是非常勤奋的人，这两个社会总体上都深受“儒家文化”的影响，因此，勤奋是最重要的美德之一，两个国家都倾向于追求它。
4. 最有前途的国家之一：
毫无疑问，我想说所有韩国人都会同意越南是发展中国家里最有前途的国家，由于这种期望，有很多“韩国资金”投资到越南，不仅是私人的，还有许多公共部门投资。许多人希望我们能分享我们在塑造和发展越南社会方面的专业知识，也希望越南能像我们一样在不久的将来成为一个全面发展的社会，这可能是由于对越南战争的内疚感（我们都知道韩国士兵对许多越南人做了什么......），还有一种强烈的亲情感——我们也被朝鲜战争彻底摧毁了，为重新建设社会我们付出了很多努力。
不好的方面：
尽管越南是一个真正充满活力、充满希望的社会，但也有一些来自第三世界的人所具有的负面特征（我不会在这里提及），然而，这些刻板印象不仅存在于韩国。至少，那些对越南（和其他东南亚国家……）的刻板印象还存在于我曾经生活过的另外两个国家——澳大利亚和瑞士。
此外，韩国人通常并不真正关心日常生活中的那些。只要你尊重别人，举止得体，你就会得到同等的尊重。“礼貌”在韩国是非常重要的美德，人们不会因为你的国籍、种族或任何背景而忽视你。一般来说：尽管在此页面中对韩国人如何看待越南人存在负面偏见，但我想说韩国人总体上对越南人有很好的印象和亲切感。
I don’t know how “most” Korean think about Vietnamese. But most Korean my wife met, who first came to the country always look down to Vietnamese. Not only because we are poor, they thought Vietnamese are lazy, amateur in work, always want to steal money, etc. But for those who can work for a long time, they started to “blend in”, accept some of our culture, and work very well with the locals (of course there are bad Vietnamese people, but not the most or all).
All of above are what my wife told me. Just want to let you know.
我不知道“大多数”韩国人是如何看待越南人的，但是我妻子接触过很多韩国人，她告诉我很多第一次来到这个国家的韩国人总是看不起越南人，不仅因为我们穷，他们认为越南人懒惰，工作不专业，总想偷钱等等。但是对于那些想要长期在越南工作的人，他们会“融入”我们，接受我们的一些文化，并与当地人合作得很好（当然越南也有坏越南人，但只是很少一部分）。以上都是我老婆告诉我的，我想说的就是这些。
English is not my mother tongue; please excuse any errors on my part.Maybe envy and guilt.
Vietnam is a very independent country. They have achieved unification, One united country means a lot to koreans. It's so depressing that brother with the same blood is always pointing gun at our head. The division of Korea is the last remains of Cold War and we probably won't solve it forever because kim won’t give up his evil dictatorship and china won’t give up north korea. The two Koreas will always remain as buffer zones for superpower countries.
But the Vietnamese are very strong and independent people. Their economy is growing very fast these days. On the other hand, South korea is suffering from terrible birthrates and aging problems.And about guilt.. I always support democracy but many terrible things happened when we helped democratic South Vietnam. South Korea was filled with anger over communism because of Korean war. I want to apologize to the Vietnamese for the terrible things that happened in the war.
英语不是我的母语；所以请原谅我的语法错误。对越南我们有两种感受：嫉妒和愧疚。
嫉妒在于越南是一个非常独立的国家，他们实现了统一，一个统一的国家对韩国人来说意义重大，好郁闷啊，我们韩国血脉相同的兄弟老是拿枪指着我们的脑袋，朝鲜韩国的分裂是冷战的遗留问题，我们可能永远不会解决它，因为金不会放弃他的统治，中国也不会放弃朝鲜，朝韩两国将永远作为世界超级大国的缓冲区。但是越南人是非常强大和独立的人，这些年他们的经济增长非常快，而我们韩国正遭受着可怕的低出生率和老龄化问题。关于愧疚......我一直支持皿煮，但我们在帮助皿煮的南越时发生了许多可怕的事情，由于朝鲜战争，我想为战争中发生的可怕事情向越南人道歉。
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There are many South Koreans who live and have lived in Vietnam. I haven’t lived there but have visited couple of times as my father worked there for a while.These are just some notions South Koreans have of Vietnam and Vietnamese people. Therefore they may not accurate and they could be classified as bias.poor country / poor people / developing nation - unfortunately South Koreans tend to look down on Southeast Asians (fancy Asian vs jungle Asian theory)
unfortunate events have happened in the past. 1) mass killing of Vietnamese villagers by South Korean army during Vietnam War. Rumor has it that South Korean units did worse things to these people than the Americans. 2) Vietnamese mail-order brides getting bought to be married to South Korean farmers who can’t find a Korean wife. Many are horribly treated. (I can imagine! I would not want to be one of them.) Some are severely beaten and even to death. This has got to stop. Seriously.
“The economic dark horse of Asia”. South Korean firms and businessmen view the prospects of Vietnam very favorably. They see the old South Korea in Vietnam. They believe that Vietnamese people resemble Koreans in that they work hard, work fast and have a cut-throat attitude. They are go-getters and won’t take no for an answer. So with this work ethic, they just need good governance in order for them to accomplish developed country status. This is the reason South Koreans invest heavily on Vietnam.But what do we actually know about Vietnam? I would say besides from some food like pho, Vietnamese wrap, some tourist destinations like Ha Long Bay, Nha Trang, Saigon, Hanoi or the historically important such Ho Chi Minh, Viet Cong, the war, we do not know that much about Vietnam.
在越南定居和生活过的韩国人很多，我没有住在那里，但因为我父亲在那里工作的缘故，我去过越南几次。我想说的只是我对越南和越南人的一些看法，因此，它可能不太准确。
越南是一个满是穷人的发展中国家——而且不幸的是，韩国人往往看不起东南亚人。
越南过去发生过很多不幸的事件：
1）越南战争期间韩国军队对越南村民的大规模屠杀。有传言说，韩国部队对这些人的所作所为比美国人更糟。2）越南新娘被买来嫁给找不到韩国妻子的韩国农民。许多人受到了可怕的对待，（我可以想象！我不想成为其中之一。）有些人甚至被毒打致死，这必须停止。
越南是“亚洲经济”的黑马。韩国公司和商人非常看好越南的前景，他们在越南身上看到了过去的韩国，他们认为越南人与韩国人有相似之处，两者都努力工作，效率高，态度好，积极进取，因此，根据这种相同的职业道德，他们只需要经过良好的治理就能达到发达国家的地位，这就是韩国人在越南大量投资的原因。
说实话，我对越南的了解不多，除了像河粉、越南卷饼这样的食物，以及下龙湾、芽庄、西贡、河内，胡志明等一些旅游目的地，我对越南实际上知之甚少.
Respect - for its strong spirit of independence and tenacity in fighting outside invaders.Camaraderie - for having shared similar history of resisting invaders.Envy - for having united its country.Guilt - for partaking in the Vietnam war.Love - for generally friendly attitude towards Korea despite its role in Vietnam War
尊重——我们尊重其强烈的独立精神和顽强的抗击外来侵略者的精神。
同情——因为我们在抵抗入侵者方面有着相似的历史。
羡慕——因为越南统一了国家。
内疚——参与越南战争。
爱——尽管韩国在越南战争中扮演了重要角色，但越南对韩国总体上是友好态度，所以爱了爱了。
I would rather envy Korea instead - we did not unite the country in a freedom way. We chose slavery to exchange our unification with.
我其实宁愿像韩国一样——我们以没有自由的方式统一了这个国家，但是我们选择了奴隶制来交换我们的国家统一。
Most Vietnamese (especially the younger generation) don’t even know that Korea took part in the war.Anyway, we couldn’t care less even about the French and the American. The war was already decades ago.
大多数越南人（尤其是年轻一代）甚至不知道韩国参加了战争。
无论如何，即使是法国人和美国人，我们也毫不在乎了，因为战争已经是几十年前的事了。
我是越南人，住在胡志明市，大学刚毕业时在一家韩国公司工作了大约3个月，坦率地说，我爱世界各地的人，但韩国人和中国人是例外，韩国人是我永远的噩梦，因为他们的极端民族主义、傲慢、吝啬和苛刻的坏性格。
我讨厌韩国人，因为他们总是以非常不礼貌和不尊重的方式对待越南人，在我看来，我不在乎他们对越南人的看法，因为我会永远恨他们，我没有任何其他词可以表达我的感受，真的很烦他们的个性和行为。
Originally Answered: What do Korean people think about Vietnamese people?
South Korea is known for its extreme nationalism. From a very young age, students are taught that being Korean is a privilege and that they are the "best" there is. From my years befriending Koreans both from Korea and the Korean Americans, I feel as though SOME are racist. When I toured the South Korean transfer students at my school, there were 1 or 2 of them that were surprised that I was not Korean (I'm Vietnamese but I look Korean). They seemed kind of upset at it too. However, the rest of them didn't really care. Korean Americans on the other hand are almost 100% not racist. They treat everyone the same.However, I think it is common for East Asians (Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, etc) to look down on South East Asians (Vietnamese, Cambodians, Thai, etc) partly because they don't look alike. East Asians tend to spend more money on lightening their skin, have smaller eyes, and somewhat taller noses. South East Asians on the other hand come in all shades of color, have big eyes, and most have flat noses.
韩国以其极端的民族主义而闻名，从很小的时候，学生就被教导韩国人是一个优秀的民族，他们是那里的“最好的”。从我多年来与韩国人和韩裔美国人交朋友来看，我觉得他们大多是种族主义者。
当我拜访学校的韩国转学生时，总有一个或两个学生对我不是韩国人感到惊讶（我是越南人，但我看起来像韩国人）。他们似乎对此也有些不高兴，然而，其余的人并不真正关心这个，另一方面，韩裔美国人几乎都不是种族主义者，他们对每个人都一视同仁。
然而，我认为东亚人（韩国人、日本人、中国人等）看不起东南亚人（越南人、柬埔寨人、泰国人等）是很常见的，部分原因是他们长得不一样，东亚人倾向于在美白皮肤上花更多的钱，让眼睛更小，鼻子更高，但是东南亚人皮肤有各种颜色，眼睛很大，而且大多数人都有扁平的鼻子。
Originally Answered: What do the Koreans think about the Vietnamese?
I actually have a few Viet friends though they live in the United States. They often tell me that despite living there, Vietnamese culture still permeates through their lifestyle (i.e. conservative Asian culture v. American culture)As this is the only encounter I have with Vietnamese culture and people in general, I can’t really warrant an in-depth answer to this question. But generally, we Koreans look at Viets like most other nations from South East Asia. They love Korean culture and want to visit Korea too. I bet they have a rich history and I would really like to travel there some time in the future.Other Koreans have an inclination to be unconsciously racist towards people from there but I personally don’t care where you’re from as long as you’re not rude :)
Sorry if this was too short!
我实际上有几个越南朋友，虽然他们住在美国。他们经常告诉我，尽管住在那里，越南文化仍然渗透到他们的生活中（即保守的亚洲文化渗透进美国文化）由于这是我与越南文化唯一的接触，所以我无法保证能对这个问题进行真正的深入回答，但总的来说，我们韩国人看待越南就像大多数其他东南亚国家一样。
他们热爱韩国文化，也想去韩国。我敢打赌他们有着悠久的历史，我真的很想在未来的某个时候去那里旅行。其他韩国人有一种无意识的对那里的人的种族主义倾向，但我个人不在乎你来自哪里，只要你不粗鲁，如果你认为我的回答太短了，那对不起了！
I’ll talk about what I think about Vietnam in general.I like Vietnamese foods like pho and spring rolls.Some Koreans, especially those who couldn’t find their partner in the rural area, marry Vietnamese brides.Vietnam war.Vietnam is an underdeveloped country so they come to Korea to work.Most people think positively about Vietnam but some may look down on the Vietnamese people since they are poor and they live in a totalitarian country.
我将谈谈我对越南的总体看法。我喜欢越南菜，比如河粉和春卷。一些韩国人，尤其是那些在农村找不到伴侣的韩国人，会娶越南新娘为妻。
还有越南战争，越南是一个欠发达国家，所以他们来韩国工作，大多数人对越南持积极态度，但有些人可能会看不起越南人，因为他们很穷，而且生活在极权国家。
Here's a guess.Koreans only look up to Americans and most Caucasians - while they detest the Japanese - they strive to catch up to them in most things.As for the Chinese - Koreans believe they predate the Chinese in most things.As for the Vietnamese - everyone should respect them as the only Asian nation that kicked two major western military nations (US and France) ass decisively.But I suspect the Koreans - due to their macho mucho feelings over most Asian countries - look down on the Vietnamese.
这是一个猜测。韩国人只崇拜美国人和大多数白人——他们讨厌日本人——但他们在大多数事情上都努力赶上他们。至于中国人——韩国人相信他们在大多数事情上都早于中国人。
至于越南人——每个人都应该尊重他们，因为他们是唯一一个果断地踢了两个西方主要军事国家（美国和法国）屁股的亚洲国家，但我怀疑韩国人不这样想，因为他们的种族主义情绪作祟，他们看不起越南人。
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Here are the facts.
1. South Korea has a very big trade relationship with Vietnam. Vietnam imports more from South Korea except China. South Korea is the number 1 investor to Vietnam. (South Korea becomes largest investor in Vietnam) While these facts won't necessarily mean that South Korea loves or hates Vietnamese people, you have to think that South Koreans are at least respecting Vietnamese people as worthy of their billions of dollars in foreign investment. From what I know at the highest level of the government, the relationship is quite cordial even though South Korea did send troops during the Vietnam War. It was the current President Park's father, then president, who made a decision to send forces to fight the war.
Interestingly, the Vietnam War benefited the Korean economy so unlike the U.S. the word "Vietnam War" is regarded as positive to older South Koreans.
2. Vietnamese noodle restaurants are very popular. I have no idea how it got so popular especially among women. They are pricey and supposed to be trendy and upscale. If we looked down on the country, the chances are we won't touch the food.
3. You can probably careless about what the Koreans think about Vietnamese people because the Koreans have been disliked all the time but they are doing fine. The Koreans in Japan suffered greatly as they are often discriminated against and massacred for no reason. There are some Chinese and Taiwanese people who dislike South Korea because Koreans supposedly claimed that Chinese inventions as their own. As a Korean I've never heard of that other than maybe from the (nationalistic) Chinese media. After China forced South Korea to cut ties with Taiwan, Taiwan began hating South Korea for betraying them just as the rest of the world did. (It was the other ethnic Chinese in Beijing which forced Seoul to do just that.)
以下是事实。
1. 韩国与越南有很大的贸易关系。除中国外，越南从韩国进口最多。韩国是越南的第一大投资国。（链接：韩国成为越南最大的投资国) 虽然这些事实并不一定意味着韩国爱或恨越南人，但你必须知道韩国人至少尊重越南人，因为他们值得数十亿美元的外国投资。据我对两国政府高层的了解，尽管韩国在越南战争期间确实出兵过，但两国关系还是相当友好的。有趣的是，越南战争使韩国经济受益，因此与美国不同，“越南战争”一词对年长的韩国人来说是积极的。
2.越南面馆很受欢迎。我不知道它是如何变得如此受欢迎，尤其是在女性中，它们价格昂贵，时尚而又高档，如果我们看不起这个国家，我们很可能不会接触他们的食物。
韩国人对越南人的看法你可能不在意，因为韩国人一直被人讨厌，但他们过得很好。在日本的朝鲜人经常遭受无端的歧视和屠杀，深受其害。有一些中国人和台湾(地区)人不喜欢韩国，因为据说韩国人声称中国的发明是他们自己的，作为一个韩国人，除了从（民族主义的）中国媒体之外，我从未听说过相关的东西。在与台湾“断交”后，台湾开始憎恨韩国背叛他们，就像世界其他地方一样。
Here is a fact I remember from my Vietnamese classmate:
Koreans are nationalists and they always mention their country as a part of their great history.
From his understanding, neither Vietnam and Korea were lucky. As for Vietnamese, the Koreans look down on them although 1/4 Koreans are Vietnamese descent (Hwasong clan), since Vietnam is - communist, corrupt, poor and pathetic comparing to South Korea.
这是我从越南同学那里知道的一个事实：韩国人是民族主义者，他们总是提到他们的国家是他们伟大历史的一部分。在他看来，越南和韩国都不是幸运的，韩国与绝望的朝鲜分裂，韩国现在富了却无法团聚；至于越南人，韩国人看不起他们，因为与韩国相比，越南是腐败、贫穷和可怜的。
In short, South Korean people think Vietnam has been a strong country historically and they have a high potential in the future and they are very diligent. This is what I thought about Vietnam.
总之，韩国人认为越南在历史上是一个强国，未来潜力很大，而且非常勤奋，这就是我们对越南的看法。