在印尼喝酒犯法吗？
Should Drinking Alcohol Be A Crime In Indonesia? | STREET DEBATE
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在印尼喝酒犯法吗？
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Apparently, drinking a beer is a far more serious issue than child marriage.
显然，喝啤酒比童婚严重得多。
Yeah, I think child marriage is more serious issue because its disgusting and outdated
我认为通婚更严重，因为恶心，而且已经过时了
IKR. Indonesia is going backwards.
印度尼西亚正在倒退
indonesia:
banned the alcohol product ✔️
give better education ❌
印尼：禁止酒精产品是对的，提供更好的教育是错的
You deserve a million likes
我要给你一百万个赞
True
没错
What is the relationship between alcohol and education in Indonesia?
There is, namely alcohol makes the nation's generation stupid
在印尼，酒精和教育有什么关系
如果有的话，那也是酒精会把国家的下一代人变笨
This bill is so stupid
这项法案真是太蠢了
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Indonesia's education is slowly improving, especially with the new Minister of Education and departments in the Ministry of Education (e.g Vocational School department) that are making all sorts of improvement to the education system, especially to the Vocational education system.
印度尼西亚的教育正在缓慢地改善，特别是新的教育部长和教育部各部门(如职业学校部门)正在对教育系统作出各种各样的改进，尤其是对职业教育系统。
Actually i don't know about which type of education you mean is it the school education or the parents education.
Because the second one i didn't see in Indonesia many parents don't have the ability to be parents many smokers many alcohol addicted where is the parents role education here .?!
some kids even scolded their parents .
If people can't educate better no to marry
事实上，我不知道你说的是哪种教育，是学校教育还是家庭教育。
因为我发现很多印尼父母很不称职，他们吸烟喝酒，将父母教养孩子的职责放在一边。一些孩子甚至还会骂自己的父母，如果人们不会好好管教孩子，就不要结婚
Ban alcohol for its negative effects , but let 7 yo smoke 3-5 packs of cig a day .
要禁止酒精的负面影响，但允许你一天抽三到五包烟
Smokers not make someone lost own mind but alcohol does
吸烟不会让人失去理智，但酒精会
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@Qylk but cigarette smoke is very harmful to others.
但是吸烟对他人非常有害。
@Zai Abiyuka yeah a smoker is not good for one's health or for others but an alcoholic is on a different level
是的，吸烟对自己或他人的健康都不好，但喝酒就不同了
@Qylk true
没错
cigarette driving vs drunk driving, which one more dangerous?
吸烟驾驶与酒后驾驶，哪一种更危险?
Religious group.......influence....soon pork is going to be bann.....
宗教团体的影响，很快猪肉也将被禁
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It's exactly because it's too widespread that makes banning cigarette impossible
正是因为太普遍了，所以禁止吸烟是不可能的。
@rea rade i have read news about a forest and some places on fire because of someone throw cigarettes, and in my country (Indonesia) they teach us since primary school that passive smoker(which is breathing the air that has polluted with cigarettes) is far more dangerous than active smoker.
我看过一些新闻，是有关乱扔烟头导致森林起火，在我们国家印度尼西亚，在小学的时候就学过，被动吸烟的危害比主动吸烟的还要大
@Qylk There are more passive smoker death than victim of a drunk person
被动吸烟者的死亡人数比酗酒而死的人数更多
In Indonesia, many underaged people Smoke. The government doesn't ban smoking even though it's illegal in Islam
在印度尼西亚，有许多未成年人吸烟。政府没并有禁止吸烟，尽管这在伊斯兰国家是违法的
This bill will absolutely destroy Indonesia's tourist industry.
这个法案绝对会毁掉印尼的旅游业。
Yes, how many non muslim tourists go for a dry holiday?
没错，有多少非穆斯林会在假期的时候不喝酒？
The thing with prohibition is that it creates a black market for alcohol since the demand will always exist. The byproduct is that cartels will be able to control its distribution which not only puts people's lives at risk, it also benefits the criminals instead of the restaurants or liquor stores.
禁酒令的问题在于这会创造出一个酒精黑市，因为需求是永远存在的。这样做的副作用就是让垄断机构控制酒精分销，这不仅使得人们的生命陷入危险状态，而且除了犯罪分子获利以外，餐馆和卖酒的商店都无利可图
"drunk people can harm the people around them"
As can sober people?
"醉酒的人会伤害周围的人"
清醒的人就不能吗？
drunk can make someone lost own mind
醉酒可以使人失去理智
drunk driving definitely more harmful than sober driving
酒后驾驶肯定比清醒驾驶更有害
@Closh FPS do u know how many accidents are cause by stupid sober people?
你知道有多少事故是由愚蠢的清醒的人造成的吗?
@Closh FPS Actually, it's simple. Don't ban the alcohol, but give regulation not to drive after drinking, even if the person not drunk.
很简单。不禁酒，但要规定，即使没有喝醉，也不要酒后驾车。
Its so ridiculous to watch people who blame alcohol because they see rape cases are rising, when theyre doing the same rapes without alcohol
看到人们把强奸案增加怪到酒精上真是太荒谬了，没有酒精，一样会有强奸案发生
You know it's indonesia when a government minding the citizen's business
你知道这是在印尼，政府只是关心公民
wow even America can't control the sale of firearms
在美国，人家连卖枪都不管
Russians would find this blasphemous
俄罗斯人会认为这是一种亵渎
Not only Russian, all civilized world will.
不仅是俄罗斯人，所有的文明世界都会这样认为
This will affect a number of industries, especially tourism, restaurant, and hospitality. Not sure how many people work in these industries in Indonesia but they will definitely get hit first.
这将影响到许多行业，特别是旅游业、餐饮业和酒店业。不知道印尼有多少人在这些行业工作，但他们肯定会首先受到打击。
This comment deserves more likes
这条评论值得多多点赞
Yeah most people don't want to take vacation to place where you can't drink
是的，大多数人都不想去一个不能喝酒的地方度假
Well everything is being hit by covid especially tourism..
由于新冠疫情，所有一切都受到了打击，尤其是旅游业
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Trust me tourists will not get any restrictions from drinking alcohol in Indonesia. This bill is meant only to regulate the consumption of alcohol in public for Indonesian especially for kids/teenagers so they can't easily buy those stuff
相信我，游客在印尼喝酒不会受到任何限制。这项法案只是为了规范印尼人在公共场合的酒精消费，尤其是儿童/青少年，这样他们就不能轻易买到这些东西
I love indoesia, from every side. But the government, u know.
我喜欢印尼，各个方面都喜欢，但政府，你知道的
It's like people forgot about prohibition in NY during the 1920's. Banning alcohol will never work.
好像人们已经忘记了20世纪20年代纽约的禁酒令。禁酒是行不通的。
obviously the government just completely ignorant to history and dumb
显然印尼政府对历史完全无知而且还很愚蠢
Right. Like in the U.S. in the 20s, it will lead to underground sales and possibly to organized crime. It's the same will all prohibited substances.
没错。就像上世纪20年代的美国一样，禁酒令会导致地下交易，甚至可能导致有组织犯罪。违禁出售其他物品也会导致类似的结果
@Hadrianvs 9 Exactly!
没错
True. It can create a dent in their tourism industry too
没错。这也会对他们的旅游业造成影响
That's because most Americans are not Muslim and it had a drinking culture centuries before prohibition. Indonesia will only be helped by this.
这是因为大多数美国人不是穆斯林，而且在禁酒令发布前的几个世纪美国就有了饮酒文化。禁酒令对印尼是有好处的
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"Out of so many issues, why is this priotized?" that guy said my exact thought.
“有那么多的问题要考虑，为什么要优先考虑这个”那个人说出了我的真实想法
We’ll see who the Al Capone of Indonesia will be.
让我们看看印尼的阿尔·卡彭会是谁。
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As an Indonesian, I’m sure this bill will be retracted. Clearly Indonesia haven’t learned from prohibition in America
作为一个印尼人，我相信这个法案是会被撤销的。显然，印尼没有从美国的禁酒令中吸取教训
Indonesia is majority Muslim, it is not the USA.
印尼大部分是穆斯林，和美国不同。
Organized crime are going to have joyride with this ban.
这个禁令下达后，有组织的犯罪将迎来春天
Speakeasy are being built as we speak lol
我们说话的时候，地下酒吧正在兴起，哈哈
This would impact the tourism industry
这将影响旅游业
Yes it definitely will
旅游业绝对会受到影响
next video,
"should Indonesia ban breathing in public?“
下一个视频
“印度尼西亚应该禁止在公共场合呼吸吗？”
Sh*t, I can't stop laughing with your comment
看了你的评论，我忍不住想笑
1920's America called and they wanna tell you that prohibition doesn't work
20世纪20年代的美国想告诉你禁酒令不起作用
1920's prohibition in the US is no joke, this is why history is so important.
20世纪20年代的禁令在美国可不是开玩笑的，这就是为什么历史如此重要的原因。
they want to ban alcohol because of negative health effects, yet they have some of the worst smoking rates in the world.
由于饮酒对健康的不利影响，印尼想要禁酒，然而他们的吸烟率在世界上是最高的
志瑜杨
美国试过了，发现没有用。
Smoking has far worse health impact. Why don't they ban that?
吸烟对健康的影响要严重得多。他们为什么不禁止吸烟呢?
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Because they like it. They're addicted to it. Alcohol in the other hand... Not much.
因为他们喜欢吸烟。他们已经上瘾了。另一方面，爱喝酒的不多
Some of the most profitable companies in Indonesia are tobacco companies, that's why.
印尼最赚钱的一些公司是烟草公司，这就是原因。
Because atleast smoking dont make u lose your mind, but alcohol does. Imagine driving while smoking vs driving while drunk. Which one is more risky and dangerous?
因为至少吸烟不会让你失去理智，但酒精却会。想象一下一边开车一边抽烟和一边开车一边喝酒。哪一个更危险?
@bulan ayu which kills more people every year? smoking or drinking?
每年死于吸烟的人多，还是死于吸烟的人多？
@bulan ayu both is bad
吸烟喝酒都不好
It's better to tax it to offset the cost of the negative effects, probably.
最好是征税，或许可以抵消负面影响产生的成本。
It’s already taxed severely
已经被课以重税了
@Ryu Tanada How much? Seems like they only tax imports.
税率多少？好像他们只对进口产品征税
Alcohol tax is actually a major income for many countries. I don't know what it's like for Indonesia, I imagine it's not as extreme as some other countries, but it will still be a loss of money for the government which I find weird
酒税实际上是许多国家的主要收入来源。我不知道印尼是什么情况，我想它不会像其他国家那样从酒精中赚那么多的钱，但没想到却在赔钱，我觉得很奇怪
their tourist will be 0!
没有游客会去印尼了
From what I’ve heard, it doesn’t applies to foreigner visiting
据我所知，法案并不适用于外国游客
If al capone and friend still alive until now, indonesia is big market for him if this rule true.
如果卡彭和他的朋友还活着的话，印尼对他来说是一个巨大的市场。
"Can you imagine going to jail for drinking beer?"
你能想象因为喝酒而坐牢吗?”
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Good job Indonesia. The drunkies are pissed
印尼干得好。醉鬼们很生气
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If health is the concern, why not ban smoking first of all? Has Indonesia really no bigger problem than drunk drivers?
如果是因为健康问题，为什么不首先禁烟呢?印尼真的没有比酒后驾车更严重的问题了吗?
because the largest tax contributor in Indonesia are cigarette... so of course the govern will not banned it
因为印尼最大的税收来源是香烟，因此，政府当然不会禁止它、、
When the tourist come to Indonesia... The will be laugh at us.
当游客来到印度尼西亚，他们会嘲笑我们的。
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i would love to see how it affects the millions of tourists to bali every year :D
我想看看它会对每年来巴厘岛的数百万游客造成怎样的影响
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Bali should just fight for independence, like Timor Leste did. They're Hindus.
巴厘岛应该争取独立，就像东帝汶那样。他们是印度教徒。
@Angry Kittens i strongly agree
我强烈同意
Rip Indonesia Democracy
印尼的民主
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I bet 90%+ of lawmakers who propose this bill consune alcohol themselves. It's not uncommon to see hypocritical politicians in indonesia.
我敢打赌，提出这个法案的立法者90%以上自己也喝酒。虚伪的政客在印尼并不少见。
Maybe the people trying to ban it should do research on prohibition in the US, and how that failed miserably.
也许试图禁酒的人应该研究一下美国的禁酒令，看看它是如何失败的。
It just an issue to cover another issue, it gonna dissaapear next year sure
印尼只是用一个议题去覆盖另一个议题，禁酒令明年肯定会消失
welcome to my country.
欢迎到我的国家印尼。
Fun fact : even tho, the rate crime in indonesia still high.
有趣的事实:尽管如此，印尼的犯罪率仍然很高。