网友讨论：德国和加拿大，哪个国家更加宜居？
Which is the best country to live in: Germany or Canada?
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网友：我在这两个国家都有过多年的生活经验，老实说，德国要更好一点，就长期来看，你的家庭在德国的前景会更好，加拿大和德国，中国注重制造业附加值不同，他们是极度依赖自然资源的国家。他们的经济100%依赖美国......
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I have lived and worked in both countries for many years.
I can honestly say that Germany is far superior and your family will have better long term prospects.
The Canadian economy is extremely reliant on resources and not manufacturing i.e. adding value like Germany and China. It is 100% reliant on the US to help drive it’s economy.
Very few European’s emigrate here anymore. The last big influx was after the second world war when Canada offered a safe haven. Today European countries are far more cosmopolitan and offer far more opportunities. Canadians are very proud of their volunteering especially food banks. In Europe and especially Germany there is no need for this as the state takes care of its poor. In Canada you see unemployed Accountants/Engineers working in liquor stores just to stop them going bankrupt.
我在这两个国家都有过多年的生活经验
老实说，德国要更好一点，就长期来看，你的家庭在德国的前景会更好
加拿大和德国，中国注重制造业附加值不同，他们是极度依赖自然资源的国家。他们的经济100%依赖美国
很少有欧洲人移民到加拿大。最后一次移民是在第二次世界大战，当时加拿大远离战火，可以为人们提供庇护。现在欧洲国家拥抱全世界，拥有更多的机会。加拿大人对本国提供的无偿服务非常自豪，尤其是食品银行。在欧洲，尤其是德国，完全没有必要这样做，政府会自己照顾好穷人。在加拿大，你会看到失业的会计师和工程师在酒类专卖店工作，以避免自己破产
Canadian’s average vacation is 2 weeks/ Germany 8 weeks. Most Canadians go to Cabins on lakes or travel to Mexico/US. Canada has extremely expensive air travel. In fact it often cheaper to fly to Europe than to fly internally.
Canada has 6 months of harsh weather. I have seen snow in every month of the year. During the summer months mosquitoes prevent you from enjoying the outdoors. Canada does have excellent winter sport facilities.
加拿大的平均假期是2周，德国是8周。大多数加拿大人会去湖边的小屋，或者去墨西哥/美国旅游。加拿大的航空旅行非常昂贵。事实上，飞往欧洲的国际航空往往要比国内航空要便宜
加拿大一年中有六个月的天气都很糟糕。今年每个月我都能看到下雪。夏天都是蚊虫，让你无法尽情去户外活动。但加拿大的冬季运动设施却非常不错
Canada has 6 months of harsh weather. I have seen snow in every month of the year. During the summer months mosquitoes prevent you from enjoying the outdoors. Canada does have excellent winter sport facilities.
加拿大的平均假期是2周，德国是8周。大多数加拿大人会去湖边的小屋，或者去墨西哥/美国旅游。加拿大的航空旅行非常昂贵。事实上，飞往欧洲的国际航空往往要比国内航空要便宜
加拿大一年中有六个月的天气都很糟糕。今年每个月我都能看到下雪。夏天都是蚊虫，让你无法尽情去户外活动。但加拿大的冬季运动设施却非常不错
Canada is a dull, safe, isolated country. They are very proud whenever a survey ranks them at the top. I see from another poster that Canada came second to Switzerland. I have visited this country too and I can confirm that it too is very dull. They both have very beautiful mountains and lakes but little in the way of culture. Unlike Germany many Canadian never leave their country and don’t know other cultures. Canada is definitely better than the US but not any country in Europe.
加拿大是一个安全，但枯燥，孤立的国家。无论在什么排名中，加拿大都能位列榜首，但有一次我从一张海报上看到加拿大排在瑞士之后。我也去过瑞士，但那里也很枯燥。瑞士和加拿大的山水很美，但就是缺乏文化气息。和德国人不同的是，许多加拿大人都没有出过国，不了解其他的文化，加拿大绝对要比美国宜居，但比不上任何欧洲国家
加拿大是一个安全，但枯燥，孤立的国家。无论在什么排名中，加拿大都能位列榜首，但有一次我从一张海报上看到加拿大排在瑞士之后。我也去过瑞士，但那里也很枯燥。瑞士和加拿大的山水很美，但就是缺乏文化气息。和德国人不同的是，许多加拿大人都没有出过国，不了解其他的文化，加拿大绝对要比美国宜居，但比不上任何欧洲国家
Germany has all the natural beauty of Canada but it has culture too. Finally, Canada has a huge problem with the first nations people. Millions of these people live on reserves (ghettos) isolated from the wider population. This is Canada’s dirty secrete that is little known outside of Canada.
德国既有加拿大的美景，又有文化气息。最后，加拿大在原住民问题上有很大的问题。数以百万计的原住民生活在保护区内，无法融入外界更广泛的世界之中。这是加拿大一个不为外人熟知的肮脏的秘密
德国既有加拿大的美景，又有文化气息。最后，加拿大在原住民问题上有很大的问题。数以百万计的原住民生活在保护区内，无法融入外界更广泛的世界之中。这是加拿大一个不为外人熟知的肮脏的秘密
Canada like the US is broken up into provinces. Unfortunately, these provinces are extremely powerful and often don’t cooperate. Trying to get things done Federally is difficult. Quebec is essentially another country and prevents the other provinces from building pipelines. The same applies to BC.
和美国一样，加拿大也分成许多省。不幸的是，这些地方省份实力都很强大，往往和中央不怎么合得来。联邦政府想要做成一件事非常困难。魁北克基本上就是一个国家，由于魁北克的阻挠，导致其他省份无法修建管道。不列颠哥伦比亚省同样如此
和美国一样，加拿大也分成许多省。不幸的是，这些地方省份实力都很强大，往往和中央不怎么合得来。联邦政府想要做成一件事非常困难。魁北克基本上就是一个国家，由于魁北克的阻挠，导致其他省份无法修建管道。不列颠哥伦比亚省同样如此
Canada has a tiny population and this means that most modern cities are many hundreds of kilometers apart. People generally don’t travel between cities. In Germany it is easy to visit other cities/towns/countries. Even if you do go to another city in Canada it will have the exact same stores and restaurants. There are a few exceptions Victoria/Montreal/Quebec city. The rest are all carbon copies.
加拿大人口很少，这意味着大多数现代城市相距数百公里。人们一般不会在城市之间旅行。在德国，人们去其他城市城镇或国家旅行都很容易。如果你到了加拿大的另一个城市，你会发现这里的商店和餐馆和之前你呆的那个城市没有什么两样。当然除维多利亚，蒙特利尔，魁北克市以外，其他的都是复制品
加拿大人口很少，这意味着大多数现代城市相距数百公里。人们一般不会在城市之间旅行。在德国，人们去其他城市城镇或国家旅行都很容易。如果你到了加拿大的另一个城市，你会发现这里的商店和餐馆和之前你呆的那个城市没有什么两样。当然除维多利亚，蒙特利尔，魁北克市以外，其他的都是复制品
If you like the cold, don’t travel and enjoy watching American TV you will fit right in here in Canada.
Most immigrants to Germany make it their home. Sixty percent of immigrants to Canada return to their home countries within 10 years and half of these return within the first 2 years.
I don’t mean to be negative just my honest opinion.
如果你喜欢寒冷的天气，不喜欢旅行，喜欢看美国电视剧，那么你就很适合呆在加拿大
大部分移民到德国的人会把这里当作自己的家。60%移民到加拿大的人十年内会重新回到自己的祖国，这些人中有一半会在头两年就回去
我并不想消极评价加拿大，但这就是实话
Most immigrants to Germany make it their home. Sixty percent of immigrants to Canada return to their home countries within 10 years and half of these return within the first 2 years.
I don’t mean to be negative just my honest opinion.
如果你喜欢寒冷的天气，不喜欢旅行，喜欢看美国电视剧，那么你就很适合呆在加拿大
大部分移民到德国的人会把这里当作自己的家。60%移民到加拿大的人十年内会重新回到自己的祖国，这些人中有一半会在头两年就回去
我并不想消极评价加拿大，但这就是实话
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This anonymous comment is more than extreme. Neither country is far superior over the other. My preference is Canada only by a margin and mainly because of the “live to Work vs Work to Live” principle. The hidden cost of living here in Germany can be shocking too. If asked where to raise a family it would be 100% Canada. If asked where to work as a young person 100% Europe. And where to retire 100% Canada.
这篇匿名文章真是极端。两个国家之间没有一个比另一个更加优越。我更喜欢加拿大，主要是因为考虑生活和工作哪一个更重要的原则。德国的隐性生活成本高的令人震惊。如果要问在哪里生儿育女，答案肯定是加拿大。如果问年轻人去哪里工作，100%选欧洲。如果要问在哪退休，那100%是选加拿大。
Canada’s economy is NOT 100% reliant on natural resources, nor the United States. It trades wirh most areas of the world, including Europe. It manufactures many products, including some that can only be found in a few places in the world, such as vaccines and medical isotopes. Look it up.
加拿大的经济并不是百分比依赖自然资源，也不是完全靠美国。加拿大与世界大部分地区都有贸易往来，其中也包括欧洲。加拿大生产很多产品，某些产品只有少数国家和地区才能生产，例如疫苗和医用同位素
Here are few facts for you.
Canada is heavily depending on US for everything. Canada can’t survive without US.
Canada’s main export partner is US (76% of all international trade, with EU it’s just 7% )
Canada’s main import partner is also US ( 56% of all trades. With Eu it’s just 10%)
Many Canadians are thinking canda is superior than US in economy . But it’s actually the opposite. Canada will collapse without US.
you can read more facts in the below lix.
你可以了解一下下面的事实
加拿大凡事都高度依赖美国，没有美国，加拿大无法生存
加拿大的主要出口国是美国（占出口贸易的76%，欧盟只有7%）
加拿大的产品也主要进口自美国（占比56%，欧盟只有10%）
许多加拿大人认为加拿大在经济上比美国发达，但事实是完全相反。没有美国，加拿大就会崩溃
下面的链接你可以了解一下
You don't have to give me these facts. I'm a former economist, and have lived here all my life. It's true that Canada is heavily dependent in the U.S. But that's vice versa, too. The U.S exports much of its products to us, mainly because of geography. That's why trucking is so key, and continued during the pandemic.
Speaking of that, N95 masks couldn't even be produced in the US without Canadian wood chips. And Canada is the chief producer of radioactive isotopes. In the world.
你不需要给我提供这些资料。我以前是经济学家，在加拿大生活了一辈子。加拿大的确高度依赖美国，但美国也同样依赖加拿大。由于地理原因，美国大量的产品出口到我们加拿大。这就是为什么卡车运输如此重要的原因，就算疫情期间也是如此。说到疫情，如果没有加拿大的木屑，美国根本生产不出N95口罩。而且加拿大还是世界上放射性同位素的主要生产国。
所有这些都证明你引用的那些资料并不足以证明加拿大是一个需要美国救助的穷表亲。世界更愿意和加拿大交流，而且这样的意愿变得越来越强烈。美国国内有很多的问题，虚假的自豪感无法帮你解决这些问题。
Well you have to learn German to be able to live there and Germany also is pretty cold.
必须要会德语才能在德国生存。而且德国也很冷
You couldn't be .ore wrong, 100% Dependant o. The US? What a joke clearly you know little about Canada's economy and when it comes to natural resources Germany has a pathetic ammount comparatively. Canada has the third largest natural oil reserves and red or second in uranium, we produce so much excess electricity from Niagara falls that we divert some to the US. There's also the fact that sea ice in the Arctic is melting and the northwest passage (which is Canadian, anyone who says otherwise should look at a map) will become a major shipping route under our control, bringing ever more economic development
你完全说错了，100%依赖美国？真是笑话，你对加拿大的经济真是一无所知，说到自然资源，德国真是少的可怜。加拿大的石油储量位居世界第三，铀储量位居世界第二。我们生产的电力多到足以向美国出口。还有一点就是，北极的海冰正在融化，西北通道(这是加拿大的，任何不同意的人都应该看看地图)将成为我们控制下的主要航运路线，这将给加拿大带来更大的经济机遇
Whoever said that Canada is the place to retire…you obviously dont know what you are talking about! Canada is very expensive and most retirees cannot afford to live off their pensions hence they emigrate to Mexico or other countries.
If you do have a job, depending on the job, at the end of the month, you may remain short on money. Every second Canadian is one pay check away from being homeless or bankrupt. Really. I have been living in Canada for 20 years and this is my honest opinion.
谁说加拿大适合养老，你显然不知道自己在说什么。加拿大物价昂贵，大部分退休人员无法靠退休金生活，因此他们只能移民到墨西哥或其他国家。就算你有工作，到了月底，你也存不下多少钱。加拿大人离破产或无家可归就只差一张工资支票。这都是真的，我在加拿大生活了20年，这是我的肺腑之言
OMG I’m sorry to say this but Germany is completely behind in so many aspects.
Since its a very conservative culture, Germans like to pay cash, there is a very small percentage of restaurants that allow you to pay with card and it has to be debit card. Definitely feels like technology hasn’t step in the country. Plus, nothing is digitalized, most documents are printed (public and private companies alike). Green green, they are not. Service is cold and rude, no wonder why waiters don’t get any tip.
虽然抱歉，但我还是要说德国在很多方面都完全落后了
德国文化非常保守，德国人喜欢用现金支付，能用信用卡付款的餐馆都不多，而且还必须得是借记卡。感觉德国这个国家没有任何科技感。另外，没有什么是数字化的，大多数文件都要靠打印。德国人得服务态度冷漠又粗鲁，难怪他们的服务员拿不到小费。
I was agreeing with your points until you said Switzerland is a dull country. Honestly, the location for winter Olympics, the most stable economy in the world,a tax haven,etc. Just can't be dull.
And yes a country having huge natural resources can survive alone but not a country who depends on trade. In a time of conflict, a country with self sufficient resources with survive much better than a trade dependent country.
在你说瑞士是一个枯燥得国家之前，我是同意你的观点得。老实说，瑞士是冬奥会得举办地，拥有世界上最稳定得经济，还是避税天堂，这里怎么可能会枯燥
拥有大量自然资源得国家靠自己就能活下来，但依靠贸易得国家靠自己是活不下来得。在冲突时期，一个资源自给自足的国家比一个依赖贸易的国家可以生存得更好。
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