韩国第一架KF-X原型机已组装完成92%，将在4月份问世
[South Korea] Assembly of first KF-X prototype at 92% completion; will be rolled out in April
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韩国将于下个月晚些时候推出其自主研发的下一代战斗机的首架原型机，即众所周知的韩国战斗机实验飞机(KF-X)。
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SACHEON, South Gyeongsang Province ― South Korea is set to roll out the first prototype of its indigenously developed next-generation fighter jet, widely known as the Korean Fighter eXperimental (KF-X) aircraft, late next month.
庆尚南道沙川报道——韩国将于下个月晚些时候推出其自主研发的下一代战斗机的首架原型机，即众所周知的韩国战斗机实验飞机(KF-X)。
A total of six prototypes are in the final stages of assembly at the Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) headquarters in Sacheon, Gyeongsang Province. Test flights will be carried out next year, following ground testing after the April roll-out.
位于庆尚道的韩国航空航天工业总部(KAI)，总共有6架原型机处于最后的组装阶段。在4月推出后，将进行地面测试，明年进行试飞。
位于庆尚道的韩国航空航天工业总部(KAI)，总共有6架原型机处于最后的组装阶段。在4月推出后，将进行地面测试，明年进行试飞。
Industry officials expressed expectations that the KF-X would not only help accelerate domestic production of fighter jet parts but also bring about a considerable economic effect, creating jobs for about 110,000 people during the full development period planned through 2028. Since the KAI embarked on the KF-X development project in 2016 after winning the contract from the government the previous year, the project has created jobs for more than 10,000 people as of 2020, according to the company.
业内官员表示，预计KF-X不仅将有助于加快战斗机零部件的国内生产，还将带来可观的经济效应，在全面开发期间（计划持续到2028年），将为约11万人创造就业机会。据该公司称，自2016年KAI从政府获得合同后开始KF-X开发项目以来，截至2020年，该项目已经为超过10000人创造了就业机会。
业内官员表示，预计KF-X不仅将有助于加快战斗机零部件的国内生产，还将带来可观的经济效应，在全面开发期间（计划持续到2028年），将为约11万人创造就业机会。据该公司称，自2016年KAI从政府获得合同后开始KF-X开发项目以来，截至2020年，该项目已经为超过10000人创造了就业机会。
Officials also expressed expectations that the KF-X fighter jets will compete in the global market with fifth-generation fighter jets such as the U.S. aerospace giant Lockheed Martin's F-35 and F-22, based on price and technology competitiveness. According to the KAI, the KF-X is designed as a 4.5-generation jet whose basic hardware and platform could be used for further development and conversion into a fifth-generation one with improved "stealth" technologies.
官员们还表示，基于价格和技术竞争力，KF-X战斗机将与美国航空航天巨头洛克希德·马丁公司的F-35和F-22等第五代战斗机在全球市场上展开竞争。据KAI介绍，KF-X被设计为4.5代喷气机，其基本硬件和平台可用于进一步开发，并转换为具有改进版“隐形”技术的第五代喷气机。
官员们还表示，基于价格和技术竞争力，KF-X战斗机将与美国航空航天巨头洛克希德·马丁公司的F-35和F-22等第五代战斗机在全球市场上展开竞争。据KAI介绍，KF-X被设计为4.5代喷气机，其基本硬件和平台可用于进一步开发，并转换为具有改进版“隐形”技术的第五代喷气机。
"As the KF-X has been equipped with hardware to become a stealth fighter, we are currently exploring ways to apply stealth technologies to the jet, although we have yet to specify details for further developments as the military has yet to present the details necessary for further developments after Block I and Block II stages of the KF-X development project," Jung Kwang-sun, director general of the KF-X Program Group under the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), told reporters who were visiting KAI headquarters, Feb. 24.
“由于KF-X已经装备了可以成为隐形战斗机的硬件，我们目前正在探索将隐形技术应用到这种喷气式飞机上的方法，但我们还没有明确进一步开发的细节，因为军方还没有在KF-X开发项目的第1和第2阶段之后提供进一步发展的必要细节，”2月24日，韩国国防采办项目管理局下属的KF-X项目小组主任Jung Kwang-sun对访问KAI总部的记者说。
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“由于KF-X已经装备了可以成为隐形战斗机的硬件，我们目前正在探索将隐形技术应用到这种喷气式飞机上的方法，但我们还没有明确进一步开发的细节，因为军方还没有在KF-X开发项目的第1和第2阶段之后提供进一步发展的必要细节，”2月24日，韩国国防采办项目管理局下属的KF-X项目小组主任Jung Kwang-sun对访问KAI总部的记者说。
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The KF-X project is an "evolutionary development" project which is divided into two phases. The first phase, or the Block I stage, is about developing the basic system of the fighter jet from 2016 to 2026. The second phase, or the Block II stage which would be carried out from 2026 to 2028, is about adding more weapon systems.
KF-X项目是一个“进化型开发”项目，分为两个阶段。第一阶段，即Block I阶段，是从2016年到2026年开发战斗机的基本系统。第二阶段，或称Block II阶段，将从2026年到2028年进行，在于增加更多的武器系统。
KF-X项目是一个“进化型开发”项目，分为两个阶段。第一阶段，即Block I阶段，是从2016年到2026年开发战斗机的基本系统。第二阶段，或称Block II阶段，将从2026年到2028年进行，在于增加更多的武器系统。
While the core equipment of the KF-X has been developed with domestic technologies, including active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, infrared search and track (IRST) equipment, electro-optical target tracking (EO TGP) devices and electronic warfare (EW) suite, the target ratio of localization is 65 percent, in terms of the total costs of the parts used for the jet.
虽然KF-X的核心设备是用国内技术开发的，包括有源电子扫描阵列(AESA)雷达，红外搜索和跟踪(IRST)设备，光电目标跟踪(EO TGP)设备和电子战(EW)套件，但本土化的目标比例为65%，这是根据用于喷气机的部件的总成本计算的。
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虽然KF-X的核心设备是用国内技术开发的，包括有源电子扫描阵列(AESA)雷达，红外搜索和跟踪(IRST)设备，光电目标跟踪(EO TGP)设备和电子战(EW)套件，但本土化的目标比例为65%，这是根据用于喷气机的部件的总成本计算的。
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With 10 stations on the jet, about 50 different weapons combinations that weigh up to 7.7 tons can be carried. The total fuel capacity of the jet is 5.3 tons and it has aerial refuelling capability.
这种喷气机上装有10个挂点，大约50种不同的武器组合，可携带重量高达7.7吨。这种喷气式飞机的总燃料能力是5.3吨，并且具有空中加油能力。
这种喷气机上装有10个挂点，大约50种不同的武器组合，可携带重量高达7.7吨。这种喷气式飞机的总燃料能力是5.3吨，并且具有空中加油能力。
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This looks absolutely stunning
看起来非常惊艳。
Impressive pace and work. Credit where due.
令人印象深刻的节奏和工作。值得肯定。
Full FADEC I believe for the F414 engines. Great platform, a first in Asia (outside China) for a stealth design....
我相信它的F414引擎是全FADEC（全权数字式发动机控制）。很棒的平台，是亚洲(中国以外)的第一款隐形设计……
A beautiful piece of engineering.
一个漂亮的工程杰作。
Wow that's gorgeous.
Tiny country off to the side of the world with not a lot of natural resources and look at how they have developed and advanced. All through sheer determination, hard work and will power. I wish Pakistanis had just 10% of the work ethic and drive of the Koreans.
哇，很漂亮。
韩国是世界另一边的一个没有太多自然资源的小国，看看他们多么的发达和进步。这一切都要靠决心、努力和意志力。我希望巴基斯坦人的职业道德和干劲能有韩国人的10%就好了。
Would this be considered a full blown 5th gen Stealth aircraft or more low observable 4.5+ gen?
Seems to be a great design but does not have internal weapons bay and ordnance is carried on external hardpoints. What kind of RAM coating does it use?
这是完全成熟的第五代隐形飞机，还是4.5代+的低可视隐形飞机?
似乎是一款伟大的设计，但没有内部武器舱，武器装在外部挂载点上。它使用的是哪种RAM涂层?
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Block 2 is planned to be full STEALTH. The development of block 2, particularly the software has already been started. The design has already considered internal weapon with 6 AA missiles.
第二批计划完全隐形。第二批的开发，特别是软件的开发已经开始。其设计已经考虑使用6枚AA导弹作为内置武器。
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Nah.. Here we will destroy the people who are actually working for good by imposing absurd policies like quota system and discrimination based on ethnicity , cast , language or birdari..
South Korea is a homogenous country where they don't have such issues ... They are more evolved and not primitive like us.
做不到，在我们国家，我们将通过实施荒谬的政策，比如配额制度和基于种族、种姓、语言或伯达里语的歧视，摧毁那些真正在做好事的人。
而韩国是一个单一民族国家，他们没有这样的问题……他们进化的更好，不像我们这样原始。
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This plane is stealth like without internal weapons bay....why didnt go all in stealth plane I wonder...
这架飞机看起来是隐形的，却没有内部武器舱……为什么不搞全隐形飞机?
Despite it doesnt have internal weapon bay in block 1, but the overall RCS will be much reduce compared to 4 generation design like Rafale. And dont forget it does have semi internal weapon for 4 missiles if you look on the belly. For STEALTH configuration it can fly quite STEALTHY with 4 missiles in the belly. Here
Other reasons:
1. To make it less complicated and the full STEALTH version will be developed in block 2 (according to the plan, and yes it has allready been developed now). Need to inform you that the design has already considered internal weapon bay. You can see sticky KFX/IFX thread to read from the engineers words themselves
2. Indonesia needs long range fighter and we need additional fuel tanks. It is due to our vast territory, both sea and land. Korea also consider China and Japan as threat, so they are also benefiting from this design.
3. We can see even USA is still buying F 15 EX, it shows less STEALTH fighter is still useful in real combat.
尽管第一批没有内部武器舱，但总体RCS（雷达横截面）比4代机型如“阵风”要小得多。而且别忘了，如果看它的腹部，就知道它有可以发射4枚导弹的半内置武器仓。在隐身配置上，它可以在腹部装有4枚导弹的情况下相当隐形地飞行。
其他原因：
1. 降低开发的复杂程度，完全隐形的版本将在block 2中开发(根据计划，是的，现在已经在开发了)。需要说明的是，设计已经考虑了内部武器舱。可以看到KFX/IFX的相关贴子看看工程师自己的话。
2. 印尼需要远程战斗机，而且需要额外的油箱。这要归功于我们幅员辽阔的陆地和海洋。韩国也把中国和日本视为威胁，所以他们也从这个设计中受益。
3.我们可以看到美国仍然在购买f15 EX，这表明隐形能力较低的战机在实战中仍然有用。
Less stealthy fighter is only useful against non stealthy aircraft. If against full stealth aircraft. You will be eaten for lunch.
不隐形的战斗机只对不隐形的飞机有用。如果对抗全隐形飞机，就是小菜一碟。
Wonderful work by Koreans, very hard-working and determined and friendly as well, met a lot of them in my workplace, they are very nice, to say the least.
韩国人做得很好，非常努力，有决心，也很友好，在我的工作场所遇到过很多韩国人，至少可以说他们很不错。
Does Indonesia own the intellectual property? Can it export without South Korean permission?
印尼拥有知识产权吗?它能在没有韩国许可的情况下出口吗?
doesnt look much stealthy from above config though ....but the 4 AAMs are pretty much attached to belly that might be better for stealthy profile good for Air to Air stealthy role but if south korea on thr first try can manufacture that pretty sure coming iterations will be easily matching west...
south korea has very advanced industry so expected..
但是从上面看不太隐形……配置但是4枚防空导弹几乎都安装在腹部，这可能更有利于隐形性能，有利于空对空任务，但如果韩国第一次尝试就能造出来，那么很肯定的是，接下来的迭代将很容易赶上西方……韩国有非常先进的工业，所以我很期待……
Why does every new stealth aircraft look like a rip-off of an F-22?
为什么每一种新的隐形飞机看起来都像F-22的仿制品?
Despite our aerospace experts are contributing to design and R&D with substantial amount of experts/engineers (52 experts since 2011, increases into 114 in 2019), but due to our financial contribution is only 20 % and the promised acquisition is only 48 planes so look like we dont have IP right and dont have export license (it is what we are negotiating).
Despite so, financially we will get 20 % of all sales and contribute making parts for all KFX/IFX. The full production is only for IFX (making parts, assembling, integration) while for order outside Indonesia, we only supply parts and possibly regional maintenance.
All Indonesian engineers has come back to Indonesia since March 2020 and waiting for renegotiation result.
尽管我们的航空专家和大量的专家/工程师正在为设计和研发做出贡献（从2011年的52名专家，增加到2019年的114名），但由于我们的财政贡献只有20%，而且只承诺购买48架飞机，所以我们大概没有知识产权，也没有出口许可(这是我们正在谈判的地方)。
尽管如此，从财务上讲，我们将获得所有销售额的20%，并为所有KFX/IFX提供零部件。我们的全部产品只能用于IFX(制造部件，组装，集成)，而对于印尼以外的订单，我们只提供部件和可能的区域维护。
所有印尼工程师已于2020年3月返回印尼，等待重新谈判结果。
The quality of this jet looks great.
Form follows function
这架飞机的质量看起来很好。
功能决定外形。
The build quality looks immaculate, perfect. At Western Standards for sure. They have achieved a lot given their size and the cost of the programme. A 4.5+ gen homegrown is better than not having it, and it gives them the foundation on which to attempt a 5-6 gen hybrid platform for the next iteration.
Interesting privacy cover mask on the MFD !!!! It is always the fist thing i look at and there is not much to see there.
The symbology on the HUD looks alot like the F16.. i guess form follows function and your experience..
建造质量看起来完美无瑕。当然是以西方的标准。考虑到该项目的规模和成本，他们已经取得了很大成就。自产4.5代以上总比没有好，这也为他们尝试下一种5-6代混合平台打下基础。
有趣是进气口上罩着罩子!!!!我总是第一眼看到那玩意，而那里没什么可看的。
HUD上的符号看起来很像F16……我想外形要遵循功能和经验……
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without internal weapon bay disappointed
没有内置武器舱，失望。
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Latest photos from Korea Aerospace Industries assembly line featuring KF-X and Light Armed Helicopter were unveiled yesterday. These images were accompanied by several important upxes regarding the overall program.
As of now, 8 prototype aircraft are being assembled simultaneously and four of them are already in late or final stages. 6 will be used for flight testing while 2 will be used for ground testing. 2 prototypes will be two-seater variants.
The first prototype aircraft is about 92% assembled and will be unveiled in April. First flight is expected to occur on July, 2022 following a year of ground testing. 2nd 3rd prototypes will finish assembly by the end of the year and 4th ~ 6th by next year. Overall development is scheduled to be completed by 2026 following operational deployment of KF-X.
As of first prototype aircraft, localization rates of four “core technology” are as follows:
AESA Radar: 89%
IRST: 37%
EO TGP: 82%
EW Suite: 77%
Lastly, KF-X will reportedly be painted same color as ROKAF’s F-15K (dark grey).
KF-X is a 4.5th gen fighter jet being developed by Korea Aerospace Industries in partnership with Lockheed Martin for the Republic of Korea Air Force. Featuring dimension of 16.9m x 4.7m x 11.2m, KF-X is larger than F-16 and is of similiar size as F-18. Development of KF-X began in earnest on January 2016 and the assembly process began in 2019 after Critical Design Review (CDR) was completed in 2018. KF-X will operate alongside more advanced F-35A in ROKAF inventory.
Light Armed Helicopter (LAH) is based on the Airbus H155B1 (EC155), which is a modernized version of older AS365 Dauphin, and is being developed to replace the Republic of Korea Army's aging MD500 Defender helicopters.. KAI took over the manufacturing license for the model and is developing both military (LAH) and civil (LCH) models. Meanwhile, Airbus has shifted its focus to its latest H160 helicopter.
这是韩国航空航天工业的最新照片，展示了昨天公布的KF-X和轻型武装直升机。这些图像是伴随着该项目的几个重要更新出现的。
到目前为止，8架原型机正在同时组装，其中4架已经进入后期或最后阶段。6架将用于飞行测试，而2架将用于地面测试。还有2架原型机将是双座的变种。
第一架原型机的组装完成度约为92%，将于4月亮相。在经过一年的地面测试后，第一次飞行预计将于2022年7月进行。第二、三架原型将在年底完成组装，第四、六架原型将在明年完成组装。总体开发计划在KF-X作战部署后的2026年完成。
截至首架原型机，四项“核心技术”国产化率如下:
AESA雷达:89%
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EO TGP:82%
电子战套件:77%.
最后，据报道KF-X将被漆成与韩国空军F-15K相同的颜色(深灰色)。
KF-X是韩国航空航天工业公司与洛克希德·马丁公司为大韩民国空军合作开发的4.5代战斗机。尺寸为16.9米*4.7米*11.2米，KF-X比F-16大，尺寸与F-18相似。KF-X的开发于2016年1月正式开始，在2018年完成关键设计审查(CDR)后，组装过程于2019年开始。KF-X将与更先进的F-35A一起进入韩国空军运行。
为取代大韩民国陆军老化的MD500“防御”直升机，韩国正在以空客的H155B1 (EC155)为蓝本——较早的AS365“海豚”的现代化版本——开发轻型武装直升机(LAH)。KAI接手了该机型的制造许可证，并正在开发军用(LAH)和民用(LCH)型号。与此同时，空中客车公司将注意力转移到其最新的H160直升机上。
89% of the radar? That's impressive. What's imported?
89%的雷达?真是令人印象深刻。进口了什么?
It seems South-Korea is going for a long term strategic investment in defense industry and home grown capabilities.
韩国似乎正在对国防工业和国产能力进行长期战略投资。
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They're the first line of defense, wish them the best.
他们处于国防产业的第一线，祝他们一切顺利。
Anyone else think the KF-X looks like a cross between the F-35 and F-22?
It's certainly useful to see SK building up a more prominent aerospace industry but what exactly are their goals here? Just to create a jobs program or replace foreign sales and simplify logistics?
还有人认为KF-X看起来像F-35和F-22的混合体吗?
看到韩国建立一个更突出的航空航天产业，当然很有用，但他们的目标到底是什么?仅仅是创造一个就业计划，或者取代国外销售和简化后勤?
Mostly logistics.
Everytime a problem occurs in a american plane, we often have to wait months to fix it cause we don't have clearence.
Selling would be pretty dope tho. We've conqured the land and sea, the only thing left is air.
主要是后勤。
每次美制飞机出现问题，我们通常都要等上几个月才能得到解决，因为我们没有得到许可。
不过，军售将会很酷。我们已经征服了陆地和海洋，只剩下天空了。
It's part of the ROK's $300 billion military modernization program - where everything from new naval carriers, to new tanks, to new subs, new missiles, and new drones are developed inhouse. This KFX jet was first meant to replace the old Vietnam War era F-4 and F-5 jets, but the decision makers decided why stop there, why not South Korea have their own stealthy jet? South Korea also developed their own AESA radar, after the US side refused the tech transfer. The engine is a General Electric engine to start, while the South Korea is secretly developing their own engine and hope to replace it in few years. This new KFX jet will position between the 4th gen F-15 and the 5th gen F-35 to start, but they are planning block 2 and block 3 stages where it will become a full fledged 5th gen stealth fighter. The first service date is scheduled for 2026, while the first prototype will begin testing in April or May of this year.
这是韩国耗资3000亿美元的军事现代化计划的一部分，包括新海军航母、新坦克、新潜艇、新导弹和新无人机等一切，都是在韩国国内研发的。这架KFX战机最初是为了取代越南战争时期的F-4和F-5战机，但决策者心想，为什么要仅止于此呢？为什么韩国不拥有自己的隐形战机么？在美国拒绝技术转让后，韩国也开发了自己的AESA雷达。其发动机从通用电气发动机起步，而韩国正在秘密开发自己的发动机，并希望在几年内将其替换。这架新的KFX战机将定位在第4代F-15和第5代F-35之间，但他们正在计划第2和第3阶段，它将成为成熟的第5代隐形战斗机。首架服役日期预计在2026年，而首架原型机将在今年4月或5月开始测试。
Doesn’t stealth require geometry to be different? Can they actually add stealth to an existing frx?
隐形不是需要不同的几何形状吗?他们能否在现有机体中添加隐形功能?
Block 3 KF-X will have a fully functional internal weapons bay. The first blocks will have weapons mounted externally, but the later models can carry them internally for stealth.
It's not without precedence to "add" stealth to an airfrx, Boeing tried it on the Advanced Super Hornet and F-15 Silent Eagle, but it's obviously better to design it in from the start. South Korea are in a slightly better position in that the actually structural shaping mostly follows conventional stealth principles, and they'll be improving the materials and electronic side of things over time. It probably won't come close to Lockheed's or Northrop's stealth platforms, but it'll be a good start, better than the 4th gen platforms like Typhoon and Rafale.
第三批次的KF-X将有一个功能齐全的内部武器舱。第一批次将在外部挂载武器，但后来的型号可以在内部携带武器实现隐形。
在现有机体上“添加”隐形功能并非没有先例，波音公司曾在先进的超级大黄蜂和F-15“沉默之鹰”上尝试过，但显然从一开始就进行隐形设计会更好。韩国的情况稍好一些，因为实际上结构塑造主要遵循传统的隐身原则，而且他们将随着时间的推移改善材料和电子方面的东西。它可能不会接近洛克希德或诺斯罗普的隐形平台，但它将是一个良好的开始，好于第四代平台，如台风和阵风。
Yeah if the F-35 has an RCS of less than 0.01 M2, then KF-X probably will ultimately end up with a frontal RCS of 0.1 M2 or so. That's still a huge deal, it will more than cut detection ranges in half in comparison to existing airfrxs. That's still a massive tactical advantage.
是的，如果F-35的RCS小于0.01平方米，那么KF-X最终的RCS可能是0.1平方米左右。这仍然是一个很好的买卖，与现有的机体相比，这将让探测范围减少一半以上。这仍然是一个巨大的战术优势。
Yup, especially if you think about what aircraft (F-4s and F-5s) these are meant to replace.
是的，尤其是当我们想到它打算用来取代哪些飞机(F-4和F-5)时。
It's a major upgrade for sure. I will be curious to see what sustainment costs look like if we ever get that info.
I doubt unit cost will be lower than F-35's, but it seems to be a simpler aircraft in a lot of ways (at least at this stage) so it could be it'll cost a lot less to operate.
Lifecycle costs are 70% of the price of an aircraft, after all. If you can get those costs down, you're getting a better deal than you would with a lower unit cost usually.
这肯定是一个重大升级。我很好奇它的成本会维持到什么水平，不知道能不能得到相关信息。
我怀疑其单位成本会比F-35低，但它在很多方面似乎是一种更简单的飞机(至少在现阶段)，所以它的操作成本可能会低很多。
毕竟，一架飞机的生命周期成本是其价格的70%。如果你能降低这些成本，相比于通常较低的单位成本，是更划算的事情。
South Korea is secretly developing their own engine
韩国正在秘密开发他们自己的发动机。
Let's just call it, officially South Korea keeps mums on it, due to the inevitable negative blowbacks. But there are a lot of writeups, reports, blogs, and news articles in Korean, on discussing the engine program that's supposed to not exist.
我们姑且称其为，由于不可避免的负面影响，韩国官方对此保持沉默。但是有很多韩语的文章、报道、博客和新闻文章都在讨论这个本不应该存在的引擎计划。
More like a modernized super hornet imho
我觉得它更像是现代化的超级大黄蜂。
I don't think Korea can manage to keep the cost down nearly as well with planes as it can with ships. Lack of domestic aviation industry is a fundamental problem. If they could it would be a competitive product.
Of course provided the foreign components aren't a ball and chain.
我不认为韩国能像造船业那样把飞机成本控制得很低。缺乏国内航空业是一个根本性的问题。如果他们可以，这将是一种有竞争力的产品。
当然要假设外国零件不会成为拖累。
They can if they are sourcing the components they can’t domestically produce. Especially if they’re getting the technology transfer through co development.
如果将国内无法生产的零部件外包出去，他们就能做到。特别是如果他们通过合作开发获得技术转让的话。
Naturally. Lockheed Martin is one of the lead participants to this project, and sent 100+ Engineers to support KAI.
The goal is to replace the aging F-4 and F-5 (yes, the F-5s) fleet of 120+. Eventually the Block 2 will replace KF-16's.
自然。洛克希德·马丁公司是这个项目的主要参与者之一，并派出了100多名工程师来支持KAI。
其目标是取代120多架老化的F-4和F-5(是的，是F-5)机队。最终，Block 2将取代KF-16。
Is there a chance that LM may use this plane to sell in US and other countries?
LM是否有可能拿这种飞机在美国和其他国家销售?
Even knowing S Korea's technology, and manufacturing prowess, I'm still impressed.
即使了解韩国的技术和制造能力，这件事仍然让我印象深刻。
Honestly? I wouldn't mind if the US just bought some of these as a stop-gap to the F-35/F-22/F-16 storm that is brewing, and I'm sure Korea would love to get the defense off-set.
It won't happen, obviously, but I wouldn't mind if it did.
真的吗？我不介意美国少量购买一些，作为对正在酝酿的F-35/F-22/F-16风暴的权宜之计，我相信韩国会很高兴得到这种能够抵消国防采购的装备。
这显然不会发生，但真的发生了，我也不介意。
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American arms manufactures would lose their mind, could you even imagine?
美国武器制造商会疯掉的，你能想象吗?
It was developed in partnership with Lockheed and you could have an American company manufacture them domestically under a different designation.
它是与洛克希德公司合作开发的，美国可以让一家美国公司在其国内以别的名义进行制造。
Manufactured there? Absolutely. Licensed to be built in the US (like how we license Ship hull designs to ROK)? Maybe. Still would be a fight though.
在那里制造？绝对是的。许可在美国制造（就像我们许可在韩国制造船体一样）？也许吧。但依然会有争吵。
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Considering that LM is involved in this, it may get a pass and build in US.
考虑到洛马参与其中，它可能会得到一个许可，并在美国国内制造。
Politically infeasible for the US side. There will be howls of protests if that was to happen.
However, South Korea probably has a fair shot at bidding for the US military's replacement of the old Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle, with ROK's new AS21 "Redback" which is currently leading the bid for Australia's armored vehicle replacement program.
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/as21-redback-infantry-fighting-vehicle/
对美国来说，这在政治上是不可行的。如果真的发生了，抗议的喧嚣将沸反盈天。
然而，在竞标美军替换旧的布拉德利步兵车的采购案上，韩国可能得到一个公平的机会，韩国的新AS21“Redback”目前是澳大利亚装甲车辆替换计划的主要竞标者。
Lockheed Martin has been making the 'it will be cheaper' promise since before day 1 of the F-35 program, and it has yet to be true. The DOD is losing patience, and has hinted at scrapping the whole thing in favor of new fighter program that has more in common with the F-16 than it does with the F-35.
从F-35项目开始的第一天起，洛克希德·马丁公司就一直承诺“它会更便宜”，但这一承诺尚未实现。美国国防部正在失去耐心，并暗示要放弃整个计划，转而支持更加接近F-16（而非F-35）的新战斗机项目。
No one is suggesting "scrapping" the F35 program? If you think they are please provide a source, I would like to know
没有人建议“废除”F35项目吧?如果你认为有，请提供一个来源，我想知道。
If this succeeds it will be a good news for NATO countries that cannot afford the latest Gen 5 fighter like the F-35
如果这一计划成功，对那些买不起F-35等最新5代战斗机的北约国家来说，将是一个好消息。
Is this thing any cheaper than an F-35?
这东西比F-35便宜吗?
It better be. It exists purely because operating 200+ F-35 was not feasible for South Korea.
最好比F-35便宜。它的存在纯粹是因为在韩国运行200多架F-35战机不可行。
It doesn't have to be.
Life cycle cost is 70% of total cost. You can pay more for domestic products and still have major savings over the lifetime of the jet.
其实并不一定是这样。
生命周期成本占总成本的70%。你可以在国产装备上花更多的钱，但在飞机的整个使用寿命期间仍能节省很多钱。
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In theory it would be worth it for ROK even if it wasn't because a sizeable bunch of its cost would stay inside its economy.
理论上，这对韩国来说是值得的，即使不值得，也有相当大一部分成本将留在韩国经济内部。
Yes but they're talking about foreign buys for NATO countries.
是的，但是他们说的是北约国家的外部采购。
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Presumably as production numbers increase and the plane is developed further, costs will drop. The question is, will they drop enough to make it an attractive option for foreign customers?
据推测，随着产量的增加和这种飞机的进一步开发，其成本将会下降。问题是，它们的价格是否会下降到足以让它成为对外国客户有吸引力的选择?
The question is it cheap enough replace F-16 and older gen compared to F-35.
问题是，与F-35相比，它是否足够便宜，以取代F-16和更早的飞机？