QA问答：如果石油耗尽，沙特阿拉伯会变成像索马里或非洲国家那样的穷国吗？如果他们的石油耗尽了，他们还能像西欧、加拿大或美国那样保持经济繁荣吗？
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?
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如果石油耗尽，沙特阿拉伯会变成像索马里或非洲国家那样的穷国吗？如果他们的石油耗尽了，他们还能像西欧、加拿大或美国那样保持经济繁荣吗？
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Ola Olasunkanmi, lives in Vancouver, BC
“Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?”Check you question for proper wording or phrasing. Africa is not a country. There are more than 50 countries over here, and not all of them are what you'll call poor.There are more poor people living in Asia than Africa. For instance, India alone has more poor people than all of Africa combined.
“如果石油耗尽，沙特阿拉伯会变成像索马里或非洲国家那样的穷国吗？如果他们的石油耗尽了，他们还能像西欧、加拿大或美国那样保持经济繁荣吗？”检查一下你的问题的措辞是否恰当。非洲不是一个国家，非洲有50多个国家，并不是所有国家都像你所说的那样贫穷。生活在亚洲的穷人比非洲的更多。例如，仅印度就比整个非洲的贫困人口加起来还多。
“Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?”Check you question for proper wording or phrasing. Africa is not a country. There are more than 50 countries over here, and not all of them are what you'll call poor.There are more poor people living in Asia than Africa. For instance, India alone has more poor people than all of Africa combined.
“如果石油耗尽，沙特阿拉伯会变成像索马里或非洲国家那样的穷国吗？如果他们的石油耗尽了，他们还能像西欧、加拿大或美国那样保持经济繁荣吗？”检查一下你的问题的措辞是否恰当。非洲不是一个国家，非洲有50多个国家，并不是所有国家都像你所说的那样贫穷。生活在亚洲的穷人比非洲的更多。例如，仅印度就比整个非洲的贫困人口加起来还多。
And to answer your question directly, the mindsets of the population within each geographical location you cite are diametrically different, especially towards demands for public goods. Westerners often have, should I say, a docile attitude towards government when things don't go their way. They want so much to believe the good side of things, and so when things do not go well, when things like inequality prevail, still they show enormous restraint and optimism towards their governments and systems of governance.Asians, especially those in the Indo-Arabic sub-continent, are a bit like some countries in Africa, in that they are less willing to tolerate hardship or inequality induced by government incompetence or similar causes.
直接回答你的问题，在你所提到的每个地区，人们的心态是完全不同的，特别是对公共产品的需求。我应该说，对于西方人来说，当事情不按他们的意愿发展时，他们对政府的态度往往是温顺的。他们非常希望相信事情好的一面，所以当事情进展不顺利时，当不平等现象盛行时，他们仍然对政府和治理体系表现出极大的克制和乐观。
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Hence whether Saudi Arabia can have a western model society or as you put it, go the way of Africa, depends on what the government does, especially now that its oil reserve is still flowing. What measures it takes to consolidate riches being gained from these reserves so that once they run out the country can still maintain its quality of life.
亚洲人，尤其是那些在印度-阿拉伯次大陆的亚洲人，有点像非洲的一些国家，因为他们不太愿意忍受由政府无能或类似原因导致的困难或不平等。因此，沙特阿拉伯能否拥有一个西方模式的社会，或者像你说的那样，走上非洲的道路，取决于政府的做法，尤其是在沙特的石油储备仍在增长的情况下。沙特采取什么措施来巩固从这些储备中获得的财富，以便一旦这些财富耗尽，这个国家仍能保持其生活质量。
亚洲人，尤其是那些在印度-阿拉伯次大陆的亚洲人，有点像非洲的一些国家，因为他们不太愿意忍受由政府无能或类似原因导致的困难或不平等。因此，沙特阿拉伯能否拥有一个西方模式的社会，或者像你说的那样，走上非洲的道路，取决于政府的做法，尤其是在沙特的石油储备仍在增长的情况下。沙特采取什么措施来巩固从这些储备中获得的财富，以便一旦这些财富耗尽，这个国家仍能保持其生活质量。
If Saudi Arabia is unable to do that, especially if it so happens that in the post-oil reserve era you mention, the wealth becomes concentrated in the hands of a few, then you can bet on it that chaos would ensue.So it all depends on the government and whether any post oil era visions they have makes accommodations for the rest of the population to be taken care of.1.3K viewsView Upvoters
如果沙特阿拉伯做不到这一点，特别是如果发生你提到的后石油储备时代，财富变得集中在少部分人手里，那么你可以打赌，混乱会随之而来。所以，这一切都取决于政府，以及他们是否有任何后石油时代的愿景，让其他的人民得到照顾。
如果沙特阿拉伯做不到这一点，特别是如果发生你提到的后石油储备时代，财富变得集中在少部分人手里，那么你可以打赌，混乱会随之而来。所以，这一切都取决于政府，以及他们是否有任何后石油时代的愿景，让其他的人民得到照顾。
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你的问题有一点错误。不是当沙特阿拉伯耗尽石油的时候，而是当他们耗尽剩余石油的时候。他们的石油供应不会增加，但他们的石油消费量却在增加，而他们的石油储量却固定不变。大约6年前，沙特领导层进行了计算，结果很可怕。
问题是这个王国用石油发电，用发的电来淡化海水，这需要大量的电力。他们还以极低的价格向民众出售石油。公民可以获得一次性住房补贴（以前大约7.5万美元，不确定现在是多少），还可以享受免费的大学教育。问题是这两条曲线在哪里相交，哪一年没有多余的石油可以用来出售以使得其人民不会陷入绝境？这方面的问题有很多研究，但我能找到的答案是2100年左右，也就是80年后。
现在，请记住，整个世界正在摒弃内燃机，我当然希望在20年后几乎不会有新车使用汽油。当然我们仍然需要发电或生产氢气……石油可能仍然会发挥作用，但不会到达我们今天使用的量。沙特阿拉伯将面临挑战，但原因并非你所想的那样。沙特人民的一个主要问题是，女性刚刚开始被允许工作，但相当比例（约25%）的男性处于失业状态。
很多男性不知道如何参与工作……大量的外国劳工被引进，加上政府发放的大量救济金，以至于王室荒废了相当大比例人口的人生。参与工作的公民一般都很努力，但很多人缺乏关键的解决问题的技能，他们非常迂腐和程序化，但许多人缺乏创造性的解决问题的方案。这些技能对于沙特阿拉伯扭转国家重心以避免这次危机来说是至关重要的。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?Saudi Arabia is heading towards the blx of extinction .They mainly depend on crude for their dependence .Most of the gdp constitute s from sale of crude and religious tourism .As crude is saturated and in near days no more a resource , it is surely going to feel the pain .The present ruler has been abducted with jhamal khasoggi case .Most of Asian community is heading back to the home country and rules and visa have been tighten .Even the business community from the Asian are being sent back and troubled in business .
Saudi Arabia is not having a positive relations with usa and europe .Saudi is having autocratic style of leadership and no freedom to express .
Saudi Arabia is having cnclicts with neighbouring Arab countries .Now Saudi has crashed the oil market . In short Saudi is running in a huge recession and may surely head towards a depression and the cities would be empty , no people , no expats . As the native Saudi origins are few . The charm would go away .The only Saudi could revive is thinking beyond religion and crude .This is my view .
沙特阿拉伯正走向灭绝的边缘，他们主要依赖原油，大部分GDP来自原油销售和宗教旅游。由于原油供给已经饱和，在不久的将来（石油）不再是一种资源，沙特肯定会感到疼痛。现在的统治者被卡舒吉案件绑架了。大多数亚洲人都回到了自己的国家，签证和规则也变得更加严格，甚至亚洲人的商业团体也被遣送回国，在生意上遇到了麻烦。沙特阿拉伯与美国和欧洲的关系也不是很好。
沙特的领导风格是独裁的，没有表达自由。沙特阿拉伯正在与阿拉伯邻国建立联系，现在沙特已经使石油市场崩溃。简而言之，沙特正在经历一场巨大的经济衰退，而且肯定会走向萧条，城市将会空空如也，没有人，没有外国人。因为土生土长的沙特人很少。在我看来，沙特唯一能恢复活力的道路是跳出宗教和原油进行思考。这是我的看法。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?In the moment they are used to have most work done by poor workers from Pakistan, Nepal, Philippines etc. And their wealth is paid by oil export and Mekka tourism. But they are also investing in future technologies like King Fahd University, have stakes in foreign companies and own nice real estate in the UK, Spain and USA.If oil demand runs out and Saudi Arabia is in economic stress, they may soon change their traditional attitudes. They may learn how to do all the things that were done by foreign workers. They can mobilize additional workforce by allowing women to work. They may change from carbon electricity to sun powered green electricity and become a major exporter of this electricity. Powered by green electricity they may produce large volumes of hydrogene which they ship to other countries.The Corona virus is a chance for Saudi Arabia, to start the described needed changes of their society and economy (foreign workers go home, Mekka tourists don’t come).
目前，沙特习惯于让来自巴基斯坦、尼泊尔、菲律宾等国的贫穷工人来完成大部分工作，他们的财富来自石油出口和麦加旅游，但他们也在投资法赫德国王大学等的未来技术，在外国公司持有股份，在英国、西班牙和美国拥有不错的房地产。如果石油需求枯竭，而沙特阿拉伯正处于经济压力之中，他们可能很快就会改变他们的传统态度。
他们可以学习外国工人做的所有事情，他们可以通过允许妇女工作来调动更多的劳动力，他们可能会从化石电力转变为太阳能等绿色电力，并成为绿色电力的主要出口国。在绿色电力的驱动下，他们可以生产大量的氢，然后运往其他国家。对于沙特阿拉伯来说，新冠疫情是一个机会，可以开始进行所描述的社会和经济变革（外国工人回家了，麦加游客不来了）。
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Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?Fat chanceOnly low oil prices will not make it poor. It have huge sovereign investments and is investing in developing different revenue streams.Remember that Saudi’s oil is cheapest to produce. It can easily sustain while others oil producers will collapse. It will boost oil prices - benefit Saudi.BUT The reality will manifest if low prices lead to civil unrest as a result of cut in social expenditure / subsidies and stoppage of infra development projects leading to unemployment even among the local youth.The cheap oil sources then may fall in hands of Taliban or ISIS like people with no benefits to the citizens.It will scare the Royals who will have to settle in America, Europe and Canada. But they will leave with all the wealth leaving almost nothing for the rest.Same thing happened when Chinese Royals left China and settled in Taiwan.Yes. Them Saudi Arabia will join the rank of poor Middle East countries.But the chances are remote.592 views
可能性很小。只有低油价不会让沙特变穷，因为沙特拥有巨额主权基金，并正在投资开发不同的收入来源。记住，沙特的石油是最便宜的。当其他产油国崩溃时，沙特可以轻松维持下去。这（供给减少）将推高油价——对沙特有利。但是，如果低油价导致社会支出和补贴的削减以及基础设施发展项目的暂停导致失业，甚至导致当地年轻人造成国内动乱，那么现实将会如你所言。
廉价的石油资源可能会落入塔利班或ISIS的手中，对沙特公民没有任何好处。这会吓到皇室成员，他们将不得不搬到美国、欧洲和加拿大定居，但他们会带着所有的财富离开，几乎什么都不会留下。同样的事情也发生在中国皇室离开中国（大陆）定居台湾的时候。沙特将加入贫穷的中东国家行列，但这种可能性很小。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?Africa is very rich in resources. So if Saudi Arabia loses it’s oil resources, then yes it might become poor, but not necessarily. I hear they have great economic plans to curb this and shift more to service and tourism.Now back to the question it will not get poor like Africa or Somalia perse, because countries in Africa have instability either because of war or political instability with rival factions.But African countries even Somalia is very rich in resources some would say they even have equivalent amount of oil deposits as Saudi Arabia or even more and even other resources.So if they run out of oil they will not become like African countries or economically well of like Western countries, because the demographics is very different.Also I don’t believe that Saudi Arabia will ever become poor since they house the holy cities of Islam, Makka and Madina. A religion with almost 2 billion adheres.633 viewsView Upvoters
非洲的资源非常丰富。因此，如果沙特阿拉伯失去了石油资源，那么沙特可能会变得贫穷，但不一定。我听说沙特有很庞大的经济计划来遏制这种情况，更多地转向服务业和旅游业。现在回到你的问题上来，沙特不会变得像非洲或索马里那样贫穷，因为非洲国家要么因为战争，要么因为敌对派系的斗争而导致国家不稳定。
但非洲国家甚至索马里的资源都非常丰富，有人会说他们甚至拥有与沙特阿拉伯相当的石油储量，甚至更多，还有其他资源。因此，如果沙特耗尽石油，他们不会变得像非洲国家一样，也不会像西方国家一样经济发达，因为人口结构非常不同。我也不相信沙特阿拉伯会变得贫穷，因为他们拥有伊斯兰圣城马卡和麦地那，有近20亿人信仰这个宗教。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?
Noooooooo.Saudi’s law makers are far ahead. The de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman took the leadership in the restructuring the country’s economy, introducing “Vision 2030”, the country's strategic orientation for the next 15 years. Vision 2030 plans to reform Saudi's economy towards a more diversified and privetised structure. It details goals and measures in various fields, from developing non-oil revenues and privatization of the economy to e-government and sustainable development.A $500 billion economic zone to cover an area of 26,000 square kilometres on Saudi Arabia's Red Sea coast, extending into Jordan and Egypt. Neom aims to attract investment in sectors including renewable energy, bio technology, robotics and advanced manufacturing.The announcement followed plans to develop a 34,000 square kilometre area across a lagoon of 50 islands on Saudi Arabia's Red Sea coastline into a luxury tourism destination with laws on a par with international standards. In a further effort to boost the tourism industry.
“如果石油耗尽，沙特阿拉伯会变成像索马里或非洲国家那样的穷国吗？如果他们的石油耗尽了，他们还能像西欧、加拿大或美国那样经济繁荣吗？”，不会。沙特的立法者已经走在前面了。沙特阿拉伯王储穆罕默德·本·萨勒曼领导了该国的经济结构调整计划，提出了“2030愿景”(Vision 2030)，这是该国未来15年的战略方向。2030愿景计划对沙特的经济进行改革，使其走向更加多元化和私有化的经济结构。
这一计划详细说明了从发展非石油收入和经济私有化到电子政务和可持续发展等各个领域的目标和措施。这是一个价值5000亿美元的经济区，位于沙特阿拉伯红海沿岸，占地26000平方公里，延伸至约旦和埃及。沙特未来的目标是在可再生能源、生物技术、机器人和先进制造等领域吸引投资。此前，为进一步促进旅游业的发展，沙特计划将一块3.4万平方公里的横跨沙特红海海岸线上的50个岛屿组成的泻湖区域开发成一个豪华旅游目的地，并适用国际标准的法律。
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Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?Western Europe, Canada or the US have an economy purely based on skilled labor. Those countries innovate a lot, have the best universities on this planet and export goods and services the world needs. All these things came because of centuries of hard work and knowledge accumulated from generation to generation.In the case of Saudis, they just extract everything and sell. They don’t even refine the oil. The society lacks value in education and hard work. The country is built by poorly paid migrants.There is plenty of crude oil, we won’t run out of it. After a few decades, we will mostly use better alternatives like solar, wind and nuclear. And China, Japan and the companies in the US have heavily invested in electric cars. During that time, Saudis either will have to switch their tourism like desert/camel tourism.
The transition will be slow, most likely future Saudis will see this coming.532 viewsView Upvoters
西欧、加拿大或美国的经济完全建立在技术工人的基础上。这些国家创新很多，拥有世界上最好的大学，出口世界需要的商品和服务。所有这一切都是数百年的辛勤劳动和一代又一代的知识积累的结果。就沙特人而言，他们榨取一切，然后出售。他们甚至不提炼石油，社会缺乏教育和努力工作的价值观，这个国家是由低收入的移民建立起来的。
（地球上）有大量的原油，我们用不完的。几十年后，我们将主要使用更好的替代能源，如太阳能、风能和核能。中国、日本和美国的公司也在电动汽车上投入巨资。在此期间，沙特人不得不改变他们的旅游方式，比如在沙漠用骆驼旅行。过渡将是缓慢的，未来的沙特人很可能会看到这一点。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?Saudi citizens produce very little of value, they don’t even run their own oil fields. Most enjoy payment for what others found under their land.It is a strange irony that one of the few Saudi’s who worked and created things of value (wealth) was Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, father of Osama bin Laden. Mohammad evidently was from a poor family and worked to create a successful construction company after WWI. Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden - WikipediaWithout many more people like Mohammed bi Laden Saudi Arabia will revert to being a poor country inhabited by a few people with a great deal of money once the oil runs out. But that may take a long time.952 viewsView Upvoters
沙特国民自己进行的生产的价值很少，他们甚至不经营自己的油田。大多数人因为别人在他们的土地下发现的东西而享受报酬。这是一个奇怪的讽刺，穆罕默德·本·阿瓦德·本·拉登是奥萨马·本·拉登的父亲，他是为数不多的工作并创造了有价值的东西（财富）的沙特人之一。穆罕默德显然来自一个贫穷的家庭，他在第一次世界大战后努力创建了一家成功的建筑公司——维基百科。如果没有更多像穆罕默德·本·拉登这样的人，一旦石油耗尽，沙特将会变成一个只有少数富人居住的贫穷国家，但这可能需要很长时间。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?
"Successful countries do not have oil at all."——Fahd Amer Al-Ahmadi，Saudi Author.
The future is for the countries that implement technologies such as quantum computing, vertical farming, electric cars, robotics , artificial intelligence, renewable energy to the well-being of its economy.The good news, Saudi Arabia, is prepared and preparing for that day.
The US became an oil exporter, nothing happened to Saudi Arabia
14th of September 2019, Iran’s terrorist attack on Saudi Oil Facilities. Nothing happened to Saudi Arabia
On the 29th of April 2020, oil prices hit below zero low. And nothing happened to Saudi Arabia, absolutely nothing. We are not afraid of oil reserves to run out. Over supplies are way more dangerous to the Saudi economy.171 views
成功的国家根本没有石油。——沙特作家Fahd Amer Al-Ahmadi。未来是那些将量子计算、垂直农业、电动汽车、机器人、人工智能、可再生能源等技术应用于本国经济的国家。好消息是，沙特阿拉伯正在为那一天做准备。美国成为石油出口国，沙特阿拉伯却什么都没发生。2019年9月14日，伊朗对沙特石油设施发动恐怖袭击，沙特阿拉伯什么也没发生。2020年4月29日，油价跌至零以下的低点。沙特阿拉伯什么也没发生，绝对没有。我们不怕石油储备耗尽，供应过剩对沙特经济来说要危险得多。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?When the oil runs out, the money runs out. Saudi Arabia has little else to offer the world except the Muslim holy places, which will endure as a significant destination for religious pilgrimage.Other than that . . . SA has camels and dates, neither of which are big moneymakers. The population will become extremely restive when its pampered lifestyle can no longer be supported by oil wealth.Fortunately for the House of Saud, this will not happen anytime soon. Demand for oil is softening, but the world’s population is growing and becoming more affluent, and it isn’t buying electric cars. SA has a long way to run.854 viewsView Upvoters
石油用完了，钱也就用完了。除了穆斯林圣地之外，沙特阿拉伯几乎没有什么能奉献给世界的，而这些圣地将一直是宗教朝圣的重要目的地。除此之外……沙特有骆驼和椰枣，但这两种都不赚钱。当石油财富不能再支撑人们娇生惯养的生活方式时，人们将变得极度焦躁不安。对沙特王室来说幸运的是，这不会很快发生。对石油的需求正在减弱，但世界人口正在增长，越来越富裕，人们并没有都在购买电动汽车。沙特（要想经济转型）有很长的路要走。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?
That’s the $20,000 question.The current Saudi regime is desperately trying to develop new areas of production and technology in Saudi Arabia.But without a hard-working, skilled workforce, Saudi Arabia can’t prosper without the oil.724 viewsView Upvoters
这是一个价值两万美元的问题。虽然当前的沙特政权正拼命努力在沙特开发新的生产和技术领域。但是，没有勤劳、熟练的劳动力，没有石油，沙特阿拉伯就无法繁荣。
Will Saudi Arabia become a very poor country like Somalia or Africa if oil runs out? Can they become just economically well just like Western Europe, Canada, or the United States if their petroleum run out?
i doubt they will progress to a developed economy. It will depend on what happens to the guest workers who operate the economy. Its not likely that they will want to stay in an autocratic exclusionary state where they cannot become citizens, and the remaining emirati are largely rentiers, not known to be energetic, innovative, and industrious.
我怀疑沙特能否发展成为发达经济体，这将取决于运转经济的外来工人的情况。他们不太可能想要留在一个无法成为公民的专制排外的国家，而剩下的人大多是食利者，缺乏活力、创新和勤奋。