【下】民调显示：脱欧派选民认为英国解体是脱欧值得付出的一项代价

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thatguy988z
Singapore is a logistics hub for South East Asia and a member of ASEAN. it plays a pivotol part in supply chains which the UK does in some regard currently, but this will not be case after leaving theme customs unx.
Hong Kong has China, luxembourgh has the EU. Dubai has its oil wealth and Abu Dhabi. We will have nobody.
The only thing these places have in common is they are effectively city States. They have no roads bridges or highways, to maintain outside their tiny boundaries, no pockets of isolated out of city deprived communities to keep on life support, Little defence spending, no agricultural subsidies. The, UK has precious few natural resources whilst United States and australia have a continents worth each to sell.

新加坡是东南亚物流中心，也是东盟成员国。它在供应链中扮演着重要的角色，而英国目前在某些方面也正是如此，但在退出王国联盟后，情况就不一样了。
香港有中国，卢森堡有欧盟。迪拜有石油财富，阿布扎比也有。而我们不会有任何人。
这些地方唯一的共同点就是它们都是高效的城市国家。他们没有道路、桥梁或高速公路，只能在自己的小范围内维持生活，没有孤立的城市贫困社区要维持生活，几乎没有国防开支，也没有农业补贴。英国的自然资源少得可怜，而美国和澳大利亚却各有一整块大陆的资源待售。

DrasticXylophone
We are relying on London which is not a bad bet globally

我们依赖伦敦，在全球来说这是个不错的选择



MlghtySheep
they will be more at the mercy of foreign powers, since they can play them off against each other.
You been playing too much civ or something? I''''m talking about the real world here.

“它们将更容易受到外国势力的摆布，因为它们俩可以被挑拨离间了
你是不是玩《文明》玩多了？我说的是现实世界。

DrPepperThanks
In the real world there are no permanent allies, just self interest

在现实世界中，没有永久的盟友，只有自我利益

ColonelYuriSocial Democrat
The real world is much more complicated than simplistic tough talk like that.

现实世界要比这种简单的强硬言论复杂得多。

RuskovShill007
I think it would also work the other way around : a huge majority of Europe would love to see the Brexiters get out of the EU. That include most of the UK, NI, Scotland, parts of Wales and England, including the whole of London.
At this point, there is no amount of trade that makes them worth staying.

我认为这也会起到反作用：绝大多数欧洲人都希望看到脱欧派离开欧盟。包括英国大部分地区、苏格兰、威尔士部分地区和英格兰，还包括整个伦敦。
在当前，没有多少贸易让他们值得留下来。

Steelydan62
Plus Brexit and the fallout will kill every euroskeptic movement on the continent overnight.

再加上英国脱欧及其余波，将在一夜之间扼杀欧洲大陆上的每一场欧洲怀疑论运动。



TheMiceHut
it definitely is. if Brexit has proven anything its that we’re better off going our own separate ways. Scotland and Ireland are trying to hold us to ransom by wanting to remain and wales have made it clear they don’t want to be a part of our future either. we don’t need them post Brexit.

这肯定是。如果英国脱欧已经证明了什么，那就是我们最好走自己的路。苏格兰和爱尔兰想通过想留欧来勒索我们，威尔士也明确表示他们不想成为我们未来的一部分。英国脱欧后我们不需要他们。

cherubeal
It''''s a good thing if this happens after Brexit. The three countries will have to compete to attract people and England will have to up its game to be more attractive that Ireland or Scotland.Let''''s hope post Brexit Britain is up to scratch.
It''''s probably going to be a disaster for all of them, but at least you get to pick the favour.

如果这发生在英国脱欧之后，那就是一件好事。这三个国家将不得不通过竞争来吸引人才，而英格兰将不得不提高自己的竞争水平，以比爱尔兰或苏格兰更具吸引力。让我们希望脱欧后的英国能达到标准。
这对它们全体来说可能是一场灾难，但至少你可以选择自己喜欢的。

GrubJinPolitically homeless
If it''''s a choice between honoring a democratic vote, or allowing the entire nation to be entire hostage by a region with a population smaller than the West Midlands, knowing full well the precedent that would set, then I know my choice.

如果是尊重一个民主的投票，还是让整个国家被一个人口比西米德兰兹郡还少的地区所绑架，并且很清楚这会树立一个先例，是一项单选，那么我知道我的选择。

Swiftshaw
Makes sense. An end of English rule in Britain is long overdue.

有道理。英国人的统治早该结束了

odkfn
We’re not asking for our vote to sway it, we want another vote which is logical given the lies and hyperbole the initial vote was based upon. It leaves still wins after that then fine. But right now it’s like honoring a vote for a curry vs a Chinese dish, but when you get the curry it’s actually just literal shit with rice. Yes, you can still eat your curry out of principle, but I’m sure you’d rather have the Chinese instead.

我们并不是要求用我们的投票来左右它，考虑到最初的公投是基于谎言和夸张，我们想要的是另一场合乎逻辑的公投。如果结果还是脱欧，那好吧。但现在，这就像是在为一份咖喱VS一份中国菜而投票，但当你得到了咖喱后，它实际上就是屎拌饭。是的，出于原则你仍然可以吃掉你的咖喱，但我确定你宁愿吃中餐。



randomcallsign
There''''s a difference in sentiment between a group of people that want to leave because their region was historically independent, and another one that lied to a certain political position but in order to accomplish it is willing to burn it all down. It''''s a rather stark difference.

一群人因为他们的地区历史上是独立的而想要离开，而另一群人则是为了实现自己的政治立场而愿意将其全部毁于一旦，这两群人的情绪是不同的。这是一个相当明显的区别。

HailSatanHaggisBalls
Independence in inevitable. Only the timescale is up for debate.

独立不可避免的。要讨论的只是什么时候独立而已。

MinorAllele
I agree with you, but I do wonder what that independent Scotland will look like. Are Scots *really* significantly different politically than the rest of the UK - or will we just end up with a similar situation as down south - Edinburgh centric economy with a right of centre govt in power.
Independence, like Brexit, will probably lead to short to medium term hardships in terms of national finances. I do wonder how this newly formed independent Scotland will treat the most vulnerable in society once money gets a bit more tight.

我同意你的看法，但我确实想知道独立后的苏格兰会是什么样子的。苏格兰人“真的”在政治上与英国其他地区有显著的不同吗？还是说我们最终会陷入与以南爱丁堡为中心的经济加上中间政府掌权相似的局面。
独立，就像英国脱欧一样，可能会导致国家财政在短期到中期出现困难。我很想知道，一旦资金变得更加紧张，这个新独立的苏格兰要怎么对待社会上最弱势的群体。

fttw
The evolution from ''''things will be so much better when we leave'''' to ''''things being so much worse is a price worth paying'''' has been a sight to behold. I''''m totally ashamed to have to be associated by nationality with these total lunatics.

从“当我们离开的时候，事情会好得多”到“事情变得更糟是值得付出的代价”，这一演变过程值得一看。我为自己的国籍和这些疯子联系在一起感到可耻。

weedexperts
They are idiots but you can''''t tell them that. Everyones opinion is legitimate and equal.

他们是白痴，但你不能这么告诉他们。因为每个人的意见都是合理和平等的。



JosquiusEuropean, British, Bernician
They seem to have a problem comprehending scale. To them their town is huge and Britain is a sizable chunk of the world. They just don''''t get how small we are. This trouble with scale is also seen in their inability to comprehend billions, millions, and the national budget.

他们似乎在理解规模上有问题。对他们来说，他们的城镇就很大了，而且英国占了世界的相当大一部分。他们就是不知道我们实际上有多小。规模的问题还表现在他们无法理解数十亿、数百万以及国家预算。