QA问答：为什么有些人是无神论者？

Murari Das, Studying Bhagavad Gita for 40 years.
People think that God doesn’t exist because they have not learnt about God properly. It’s the same in many other fields also. Due to ignorance and a poor education people make mistakes. They are sincere, and they actually believe what they think is true, but they are wrong.Without learning properly about God people jump to conclusions. They think there is a problem of evil. They think that no one has ever seen God. They think that there is no evidence of God. They think that ‘ancient’ Gods don’t exist anymore. They think that this world is supposed to be a nice place where everyone can enjoy life and be happy, and if God doesn’t facilitate that then He doesn’t exist.They think so many things, but just because they are sincere in what they think that doesn’t mean that they are right.God is real, He visits the planet from time to time. He communicates with people on the planet. He arranges everything that happens and He leaves instructions on how to know Him. He arranges the creation of the universe, He maintains it and He destroys it. He is present in the heart of every living entity and fulfills their desires with an impartial attitude. If you don’t want to see evidence of God you won’t. If you do want to then you will. This is all arranged by God. He doesn’t care if people acknowledge Him or not. Material nature acts and reacts without caring about a person’s beliefs. If a pious person touches fire they will get burnt the same as if a sinful person does. This is controlled by the laws of material nature. If a person acts kindly to others then in a future life others will be kind to them, and if they act cruelly towards others then in the future others will be cruel to them. This is controlled by material nature which doesn’t care what a person believes, only how they act.Once God is removed then everything falls apart. Without God there is no explanation of why everything exists. There is no explanation of what to do with your life. There is no explanation of what is beyond this universe. There is no explanation of life and consciousness and what happens after death. There is no explanation of why the world works the way it does. In fact very little is known about how the world works at all. There are simply theories and hypotheses that can’t be tested and can’t be proved. Without God there is no sensible explanation for what we see.Some people aren’t bothered by not having decent answers to questions. They don’t spend much time thinking about them just as animals don’t think about them. A few are interested but if they don’t believe that God exists, then for the most part they listen to what others say about life and the universe. Very few have the luxury of being able to investigate for themselves. Mostly they are busy earning and spending money for themselves and their families, and they let others investigate and then listen as they tell them what they have discovered. The days go past and people busy themselves with their job and their home and having fun and enjoying the wonderful entertainment opportunities that are available today, spending their money and looking forward to something in the future or rejoicing that they have removed a problem from the past.It never occurs to them that there might be a reason why humans can understand and discuss philosophical and metaphysical questions while animals can’t. Many of them are happy to call themselves animals, (but it’s best not for you or I to do that, then it’s taken as an insult). It never occurs to them that thousands of years ago people were smarter than they are today. A modern conservative estimate is that mankind has been on the planet for 200,000 years, and now in the last 100 years we have suddenly become enlightened in the matter of God? As the planet becomes less and less habitable due mankind’s wonderful progress people still think that we are more intelligent than those men 10 - 15,000 years ago, who believed in God, and respected nature as a living force and took care to preserve the natural order of things for future generations.This ‘I don’t believe God exists’ movement will be short lived, not more than one or two generations, because what intelligent person will believe that there is no inherent purpose to life, no inherent morality to life, no inherent order to the universe, no way to guarantee a safe and happy life for themselves and descendents, and no way to know what lies beyond our senses?

回答一：
穆拉里达斯，研究《博伽梵歌》40年.
人们认为上帝不存在是因为他们没有正确地认识上帝.
在许多其他领域也是如此，认识不到，他们就以为不存在.
由于无知和缺乏教育，人们常会犯错误。
他们很真心，他们迷行自己想的就是对的，实际上，他们错了.
世人认识不到上帝，就率性地下结论说上帝不存在.
世人觉得，世间还有邪恶，就说明没有上帝（注：因上帝是至能至善的）.
世人认为没人见过上帝长啥样，觉得根本就没有上帝存在的证据.
他们认为“古代”的神已经不存在了。
他们认为这个世界应该是一个美好的乐土，每个人都可以享受生活和幸福，
如果（万能的）上帝连这点都帮不了人类，那么（号称至善的）他就不存在.
他们思考很多，然而，仅仅因为他们的想法是真诚的并不意味着他们是正确的.
上帝是真实存在的，他不时造访这个星球，和地球人交流.
所有的事情，都由他安排发生的，他留下如何认识他的指示。
上帝安排宇宙的诞生，他维护宇宙，他摧毁宇宙.
他存在于每一个生命实体的心中，
以公正的态度满足他们的欲望.
如果你不想看到上帝存在的证据，你就看不到那些证据.
如果你想，那也能看到上帝存在的证据.
这一切都是上帝安排的.
他不在乎别人是否承认他。
自然物质有自己的物性，并不因某个人的想法而改变.
诚信上帝的人跳进火坑，
也会被烧死的，这个和罪人被烧死没什么区别.
跳火坑就被烧死，这个是自然法则.
如果一个人对别人好，别人也会对他好的，
如果对别人残忍，那么别人会对他残忍的。
这是物质本性，物质本性不在乎一个人信不信上帝.
只在乎人们的行为.
上帝一旦消失，世间一切立马分崩离析.
没有上帝，就无法解释万物为何存在.
没有上帝，就无法解释你生活的意义.
没有上帝，就无法解释这个宇宙的运行方式.
实际上，我们对这个世界如何运转知之甚少。
解释的理论和假设是有一些，
但是，这些理论和假设，都经不起验证的.
没有上帝，我们所看到的一切，都无法合理地解释.
有些人懒得思考问题，他们就像动物一样不去想.
而有些人则不同，他们喜欢思索，
如果他们认为上帝不存在的话，他们就只能听别人对生命和宇宙的看法了.
很少有人能自己去探查问题.
多数世人都忙着赚钱养自己和家人，
让他人去探索，然后自己去聆听.
普通人的日子都是一天天的浑噩着过，
忙于工作和养家. 享受娱乐，享受花钱，期望未来，为解决掉某个问题而高兴.
他们从来不去思考，为什么人类能够理解和讨论哲学.探索形而上学的问题，而动物却不能.
他们中的许多人喜欢宣称自己为动物.
(但这样做对你我都不好，会被视为一种侮辱).
他们从来没有想到几千年前的人比现在的人聪明.
现代的保守估计是，人类在这个星球上已经存在了20万年，
而现在，在过去的100年里，我们突然在上帝的问题上变得开明了。
随着人类的伟大进步，地球变得越来越不适合居住，
而人们仍然傲慢地以为我们比10 - 15000年前的人更聪明.
那时的古人，他们相信上帝，尊重自然是一种有生命的力量，
并为后代小心地维护事物的自然秩序.
“我不相信上帝存在”这种思潮必将是昙花一现，流传个一两代人就会消亡的.
因为智慧的人会知道，
如果没有上帝的话，人类的生活就没有内在的道德，
就没有内在的宇宙法则，
我们、以及我们的后代的幸福生活就没有保证.
没有上帝的话，就没有办法知晓感官以外的意识.

Wagner Lipnharski
Interesting enough, gods are dying for millennium, one after another, still dying, millions believed in old gods, now dead. Now billions believe in thousands gods, and there are some many because no one is real enough to survive alone. They are all dying and being replaced with simple and pure science discoveries. Gods are fully necessary to fulfill the holes of ignorance and lack of reasons for the life itself, to give hope and obedience for the in need. As lucid answers are being acquired, less darkness covers the ignorance, and the world becomes more illuminated by the knowledge and certainty of the real answers about life origins and evolution. Religions are starving at the blx of its own demise, only ditatorial religions that forbid questioning and intellectual discoveries still propagating its crude dominant force. A good religion should provide freedom by faith and knowledge, not slaving its followers by force and fear to be killed if questioning. Those are, of course, not good or real gods, they were created by the human evil and madness, to enforce artificial power through a bad fearful religion, that only the weak would submit. It may take a while, but those will disappear in the shadows of ignorance, as usual, since nothing is forever, specially what lacks the truth. The world never had so many questioning the truth about all gods, atheism was never so strong and continues to grow. It is just a matter of time. The financial exploration of the weak believers in favor of the religions and the ones controlling it, is more than proof of the discredit and real reasons behind it. Next time your God comes to visit this planet, call CNN to interview him, they are prone to fake news, anyway.

评论：
有趣的是，在千禧年里，众神都在赶着去死，
一个接一个，前赴后继地赶死，拥有数百万粉丝的神，现在已经死了.
现在，有几十亿信众的各位神仙，很多却是虚构出来的，只能一个一个地去死.
神在赶死，纯粹的科学则崛起.
相信世间有神，倒也有利处，因为这样可以弥补生命本身的无知，给生命提供个理由.
还可以给人以希望，让想臣服于神的人去臣服.
当真相渐显，蒙蔽了无知的黑暗会渐退，世界愈发光明.
当关于生命之谜的起源和进化越发科学、正确时，
宗教就在它走向灭亡的短暂生涯中香火零落.
只有那些不允许质疑和智力发现的宗教，仍在传销其原教旨的法力.
一个好的宗教应该用信仰和知识来让人选择信或不信，
而不是用暴力武力来恐吓信众.
好的宗教，就应该不惧因质疑而露出原型.
但是，那些恶、假的由人虚构出来的神，会通过恐怖的邪教来施行它的法力.
只有脆弱的信徒才皈依它.
让世人不再相信有神在，则需要点世间.
神也会消亡的，因为世间没有什么是永恒的，特别是非真理的东西.
这个世界并没有很多人质疑神仙，无神论并不是那么强势.
不过，无神论渐渐地增强起来了. 这是时间问题.
宗教里，普通教众被控制宗教的人进行经济剥削，就是一种不光彩的事，也是神存在的真实原因.
下次你的上帝来访问这个星球的时候，记得打电话给CNN采访他，他们很容易就会收到假新闻.

Murari Das
Original Author · Feb 11, 2018
Name me one God you know of that has died and I’ll read your second sentence.

楼上，说出一个你知道的已经死去的上帝，我再看你的第二句话.

Wagner Lipnharski
All the greek and egyptian gods for starters. You do know history, right? Now, what was your next question?

楼上，希腊和埃及诸神！ 你知道历史吧? 现在，提你的下个问题.

Murari Das
I know some history. I know that something can’t die unless it is alive, so if the Greek and Egyptian gods have died, they must have been alive once. So the question is who saw them die?

我知道一些历史。我只知道，只有活着的东西才会死，所以，如果希腊和埃及的神死了，那么，他们一定曾经活着。
所以问题是谁看到了他们的死亡?

Wagner Lipnharski
Well, yeah, maybe in your language “to die” only applies to a living thing. Even in this case “ideas” can die, and never being alive. Radiation decay is a way for die. We can say a mechanical or electronic device is dead, even not being alive. But that''s okay. You got the idea.
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也许在你的语言里"死"只适用于活着的东西。
按照你的思维，“思想”也会消亡，永远不曾存在过.
辐射衰变是死亡的一种方式。
我们可以说一个机械或电子设备死了，但机械和电子设备可不曾活过吧.
但是没关系。你懂的。

Thomas Daniel Nehrer
All people are atheists. Mankind has concocted at least 2500 gods over the ages. Most people don''t believe in 2499 of them -- making them atheists many times over.
People generally only believe in the one or many god(s) they were taught to believe in as children. And that god, only seems to exist because the person believes in it. In effect, whatever you believe in seems to be true. That''s because the mind interprets reality to conform to its held notions.That and that alone is why gods seem to exist. In reality, in this interactive venture we call life, there is no external causality, no external creator.If you look at your life without beliefs to distort your perception, you''ll notice that you attract patterns. Your health, your relationships, your success or failure all unfold in distinct patterns. You create/attract those patterns and do so based on your own inner nature. In my books, I explain how to delve into the subconscious, find inner roots to outer problems and change them there. When you''ve eliminated the inner mechanisms within your own mindset, the problematic situations you''d been attracting change in response.That inner-outer connection has been in place your whole life. But you haven''t noticed it, because you learned growing up that external forces and sources make things happen to you: gods, luck, fate, the government, bacteria, conditions, bad people, rich people, fortune -- all these are blamed for causing events.As life impacts you, though, it was your own propensities that attracted both the good and bad.So, most in western culture learn via Christianity that there''s a creator god who made things, including you, and still interferes in life''s flow. Once you believe that, it seems true.Many people realized through analysis or experience that, whoa!, there really isn''t any Big Brother out there making things happen. Shedding archaic religion, you pass into an atheist phase. Generally, you buy into science. But it is also a belief structure that looks valid -- as long as you believe in it.Science lays causality on external forces and sources. Most atheists, in my experience, shed religion, but get hooked by science.If you keep going, you''ll notice that you, yourself create your experiential reality. And that you can change it qualitatively by changing within.So, people are atheists because gods -- none of ''em, from Thor, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Ba''al, El, Yahweh, Allah, Lakshmi, Marduk, Apollo, you name ''em, on to God with the capital "G", none of them exist, except in the minds of believers.That''s why people are atheists.

回答二：
所有的人都是无神论者.
几千年来，人类捏造出来的神仙少说也有2500个.
而其中的2499个神，是没人相信他的. 所以，不信神的人几乎是信神的人的2499倍.
人们通常只信一个或多个神，他们从小就被教导要信这些神.
而上帝呢，之所以存在，就是因为有人相信他存在.
实际上，任何东西都是这样，你信就有，不信则无.
这是因为，你一旦信了它，你的脑子就会用它去套上现实世界.
这就是上帝存在的根本原因.
事实上，我们叫做“生命”的东西，
并没有外部造物主造出来的，和外部也没有因果关系.
如果不是信仰扭曲了你的感知的话，你会注意到自己的生命形式的.
你的健康，你的人际关系，你的成功或失败都以不同的形式展现的.
你的生命轨迹，是你的内在本性注定了的.
在我的观点中，我解释了如何深入潜意识，找到外在问题的内在根源并改变它们。
当你消除了自己思维模式中的内在机制，你所面对的有问题的情况就会引起相应的变化。
这种内在与外在的联系贯穿了你的一生。
但你没有注意到它，因为你在成长过程中，
你习惯了自己的生活是归咎于外部因素：神、运气、命运、政府、细菌、环境、坏人、富人、财富.
但是，真相确是，内因决定了你的生活.
所以，在西方文化中，大多数人通过基督教了解到，有一个造物主上帝，他创造了万物，包括你，
它还干涉你生命的轨迹.
一旦你信了上帝，它似乎就是真的存在.
许多人通过分析或体验意识到，哇!在美国，真的没有什么“老大哥”能让事情发生.
抛弃了古老的宗教，你就进入了无神论的阶段。
一般来说，你选的会是科学.
但科学也是一种信则有，不信则无的一种信仰.
科学把因果关系建立在外力上.
以我的经验，大多数无神论者都抛弃了宗教，被科学所吸引.
如果你继续下去，你会注意到你自己创造了你的经验现实。
你可以通过改变内在来改变它.
所以，人们成为了无神论者，因为任何神都是虚构的.
从雷神，宙斯，阿胡玛兹达，巴阿勒，艾尔，耶和华，安拉，拉克希米，马尔杜克，阿波罗，你能叫出名字的，到大写的“G”的神，都只存在于信徒心中.
这就是为什么人们变成了无神论者。.

Daniel Metivier
Why are some people atheists?
People are Atheist because they do not belief that there is any irrefutable, creditable, independently verifiable, obxtive evidence to support the existence of any of the multitude of gods that Theists believe in. How we became Atheists is varied:1) some Atheists became an Atheist after years of being a Theist but finding too many contradictions and outright impossibilities within their faith... this was my path.2) born in a country where religion is not important (see Jonas Linder''s response for a list of these countries).3) you were born in a country that forbids religions like North Korea (yes I know publically they say they have freedom of religion but they also claim there is freedom of speech so...).4) your parents were atheist so they were not raised with a religious dogma but learned to question and seek their own answers...this was my son''s path, my daughter was a Wiccan but is currently not in a coven.5) some were raised by Theists but never bought into any of it. They may have played the part of a Theist but they never really believed.

回答三：
为什么有些人是无神论者?
人们是无神论者，
因为他们不相信有任何无可辩驳的、可信的、可独立核实的、客观的证据来支持有神论者所信仰的众多神灵的存在.
我们如何成为无神论者，原因是多种多样的:
1.一些无神论者在成为有神论者多年后变成了无神论者，
因为他们发现自己信仰的神，有太多谬误的地方了，是完全不可能存在的……这是我从有神变无神的经历.
2. 那些出生在世俗占主导地位的国家的人，也会变成无神论者.(参见Jonas Linder对这些国家的列表).
3.你出生在一个禁止宗教信仰的国家，比如朝鲜
(是的，我知道他们公开宣称有宗教信仰自由，所以你懂得……)
4. 你的父母是无神论者，
所以他们不是在宗教教条的熏陶下长大的，
而是学会了质疑和寻求自己的答案……这是我儿子变成无神论者的经历，
我的女儿则是一个巫术崇拜者，不过她现在没有参加女巫集会.
5)有些人是由有神论者养大的，但从不相信有神论者。
他们可能扮演了假装信神而已，实际上，他们从未真正的相信.

Michael Lloyd Lee
Why do some people think that God does not exist?People who think god does not exist generally fall into one of two major groups plus a few in a minor third group:Not Indoctrinated As A Child.Actually Read The Books/Thought About It.Bad Things Happened The first group when they finally do come across the concept largely (but not always) dismiss the concept as quickly as you would dismiss the concept of Fred The Shoulder Unicorn. The whole concept just makes no sense unless you are told about it by someone you trust at a young age (or you are bribed into it at an older age). Many Chinese and many of the next generation of Europeans will fall into this bucket.The second group find that the concept of god simply does not make sense. Either because they read the holy books and find they don''t make sense or they simply question the logic of ‘god’. Either way they come to the conclusion that logically god can not exist. Many of the current generation of Europeans fall into this bucket.The third group are a tiny group that theists love to bang on about. They do exist, but are in my experience rare. They can not accept that an all powerful, loving god would allow either bad things in general to happen, or a certain bad thing to that happened to them happen.A final kind-of group exists. The I Just Don''t Cares. Technically it is not that they don''t believe, they just don''t care enough to think about it. They believe that the question of if god exists or not does not affect their daily life. So they don''t think about it.

为什么有些人认为上帝不存在?
认为上帝不存在的人，通常分为两大类，
还有少数人属于第三小类:从小没受过教育的人.
受过教育的人，第一种人，他们以接触到“上帝”这个概念，他们就不喜欢了.
这就像你不喜欢“弗雷德的独角兽”这个概念一样.
除非你很小的时候，有人信得过的人给你灌输这个概念过.
这样，“上帝”这个概念对这种人来说，就毫无意义了.
许多中国人和许多下一代欧洲人就是属于这种人.
第二种人是：发现上帝这个概念根本就没有意义的人！
他们读圣经后，毫无触动，或者是对圣经的逻辑很怀疑.
不管怎样，读圣经后，他们得出的结论都是：从逻辑上讲，上帝是不可能存在的.
现在的欧洲人，很多就属于这种人.
第三种人是一小部分有神论者喜欢吹嘘的人.
他们认为上帝有是有，但是在他们的生活中是很少出现的.
这种人无法接受：一个全能、全善的上帝怎么可以还允许世间有邪恶的事情发生？
最后，还有一种人是漠不关心的人.
严格来说，这种人并不是不信神，而是说，这种人不关心上帝存不存在的问题，他们懒得去思考这个问题.
他们觉得上帝是否存在的问题不会影响他们的日常生活。所以他们不去想它。

Zagros Madjd-Sadjadi
Originally Answered: Why are some people atheists even though we don''t know whether a God exists or not?Thanks for the A2A.I am not an atheist but I would turn around the question: Why are some people theists even though we don’t know whether a God exists or not?The fact is that you what people believe to be true is based on what they believe, nothing more and nothing less, and people believe for a variety of reasons in a lot of things.However, here is the dirty little secret that neither atheists nor theists will tell you: you really can’t prove everything that you believe - you have to accept at least some things on faith alone. However, that doesn’t mean that you should automatically believe EVERYTHING or even SOME THINGS that others believe.What do I mean by this? Well, prove that you exist. Now you might start by saying, “I think, therefore, I am.” Okay, prove that you think. I can keep going back until finally I will find something that you will claim is so obviously true that you claim it be self-evident (what is known as an axiom). I can then deny your self-evident claim. After all, obxtive reality may not exist (and thus you do not exist) — we could all be “brains in a vat.”https://www.iep.utm.edu/brainvat/Or we could be just part of some huge simulation (Sims 35432, anyone?):Are We Living in a Computer Simulation?Or perhaps, most disturbing of all, could we all just be part of Donald Trump’s dream?r/nosleep - WARNING: We Are All Living in Someone Else’s Dream, and We Need to Find the ProtagonistThat is really what atheists are doing when they deny the axiom that theists employ that God exists. “I don’t believe you,” says the atheist and we are stuck. Unless everyone agrees on the axioms with which you start, you can’t actually prove anything at all to them NOR SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO SO.Now what this ALSO means is that the atheistic CLAIM that one SHOULD NOT believe that which cannot be proven is fallacious. We ALL believe some things that cannot be proven — that is exactly what those axioms are. In reality, neither atheism nor theism has a sufficiently better argument to defeat the other. If one did, with the exception of a few people who just won’t accept the axioms, virtually all of us would be either theists or atheists.Now atheism does have one thing going for it and that is that it has one fewer axioms than theism does. It all boils down to this axiom:Theistic axiom: God created the universeThat doesn’t mean that atheism has a knock-out punch though. Many (but not all) atheists might try this preference method called Occum’s Razor, which ironically was created by a theist for theistic purposes:Occum’s Razor: “Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be sexted.”Now that seems intuitively obvious to a lot of people but that doesn’t make it true. Indeed, the problem with it is how it is applied. After all, one can use it to argue that God does not exist (get rid of that assumption/axiom) OR one can use it to argue that God manipulates EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME EXACTLY IN THE ORDER THAT WOULD MAKE US THINK THAT THERE ARE NATURAL LAWS (after all, that makes things even simpler!).You see, so long as theists start with an axiom that there is a god (or gods), atheists will get nowhere with theists and as long as atheists do not start with that axiom, theists will get nowhere with atheists.It all boils down to what you think is self-evident. I happen to believe in a god that I believe to be self-evident. Now it is not the one that you probably believe in, however. My conception of a god is that it either started the universe from outside the universe (deism) OR, IF the universe itself is external, then it is one with the universe (pantheism).In other words, I define “god” as either whatever created the singularity or the singularity itself that provided the genesis to the Big Bang.Of course, even my conception of a god could be wrong — after all, we could all be brains in a vat and obxtive reality does not really exist.

谢谢你的A2A.
我不是一个无神论者，
但我会转过来问:为什么有些人是有神论者，即使我们不确定上帝是否存在?
事实是，人们相信什么，是基于他们信仰什么！
他们相信，很多事物都有各种原因.
然而，有一个既非无神论者也非有神论者都不会告诉你的肮脏小秘密是:
你无法证明或证伪你所信仰的东西，你只能凭信念去信仰或不信仰.
然而，这并不意味着你应该自动相信一切，甚至是别人相信的一些事情
什么意思呢?
就是说，（你要自己思考）以证明自己的存在. 我思故我在！
所以，如果一直追溯下去，你会发现，追问到最后的话，就只能说：这东西是不言而喻！（也就是所谓的公理）！
当无神论者否认有神论者信奉上帝存在的公理时，
他们实际上就是在说：上帝就是不存在的，这是不言而喻的事情！
信上帝和无神论者的辩论，就此辩到尽头了.
也就是说，任何人，如果他不同意你一开始提出的“公理”，
那么你根本就不能用推理的方式来向他证明任何结论.
其实，你也不应该用推理的方式说服那些人的.
这也意味着无神论的主张，即一个人不应该相信那些无法被证明的东西是错误的。
我们都相信一些不能被证明的概念——就是那些公理。
事实上，无论是无神论还是有神论都没有足够的论据来击败对方.
实际上我们所有人要么是有神论者，要么是无神论者
无神论确实有一个优势：那就是它比有神论少一个公理.
有神论多了一个公理，那就是：上帝创造了这个宇宙.
许多无神论者可能会喜欢奥卡姆剃刀定律：“在相互竞争的假设中，应该选择假设最少的那个。”
具有讽刺意味的是，这个定律是由有神论者出于有神论目的而创造的.
这个定律，很多人觉得它是显而易见的正确的，但这并不是真的正确.
事实上，这个定律出问题的地方是：该在什么场合应用它.
因为，你既然是用这个定律来否定上帝，
用这个定律来否定上帝在操纵世间的一切，
那么，这就让我们认为：自然是有法则的（毕竟，这个定律就是一个自然法则了）.
你看，只要有神论的人，把信仰上帝当做第一个公理，那么无神论者就再也无法反驳他.
而无神论者，不承认这个第一公理的话，那么有神论这也无法反驳他.
所以，归结起来就是：你信仰的，就是不言而喻的.
而我，碰巧相信一个我认为是不证自明的上帝.
然而，你恰巧不信它而已.
我对上帝的理解是，它要么是从宇宙之外开始创造我们这个宇宙(自然神论)，
要么，如果宇宙本身就包括外在的，那么上帝就是与宇宙一体的(泛神论).
换句话说，我把“上帝”定义为创造了奇点或为大爆炸提供了起源的奇点本身.
当然，就连我对上帝的概念也可能是错误的——毕竟，我们的大脑可能都是井底之蛙.
正确、客观的答案可能不存在的